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11:08 AM
What's the diference between Express 3/4 and Express framework
socket.io docs talk about both
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Q: What is the difference between Express 3/4 and Express Framework?

N KlostermanGoing through the socket.io documentation I discovered that there is express v.3/4 and express framework. What is the difference?

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@Sippy lol, As helpful as I think she'd be, I can't imagine my Dad'd appreciate the inevitable proliferation of cocks :P
Because, really, that's 90% of Minecraft. Just sayin'
 
> How to pretend I know something on a sheet of paper. Thats all college has taught me.
 
@monners uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
Step 1. Throw away the sheet.
Step 2. Yell at the person who gave it to you.
Chances are they won't know if you're right or wrong, but it'l get you a conversation with someone who matters.
 
@monners i quit my college.
a while back.
 
11:18 AM
Disclaimer: don't do the above if you don't know what you're talking about!
@AbhishekHingnikar A while back? Last I remember you were torn between which shitty institution to attend?
 
@monners lol.
My uni just got in trouble because the dean is sexually harrassing everyone
And the deputy dean or something like that was laying people off so she could afford herself a personal chef and driver.
 
@Sippy you work at a uni ?
 
@Sippy No joke. There are awesome Indian developers that are fucked over hard by the crappy institutions they're forced to attend
 
sux :/
 
@monners what does Indian developer mean, developers are developers dont relate them to countries
 
11:21 AM
Yeah it does
 
@CustomizedName wat...
 
@CustomizedName Employers do, it's unavoidable.
 
@monners it's discrimination
 
@CustomizedName Because every developer everywhere has the same work environment and chances?
 
@CustomizedName Gonna be honest, stereotypes exist for reasons.
 
11:22 AM
@CustomizedName Yeah, it is. It still happens.
 
Chinese software is far lower quality, GENERALLY, than Western software.
As is Indian software
Although you can get some damn good stuff from both.
 
That's racism.
 
How the fuck is that racism
That's statistical analysis
Number of solutions that come out of China
 
Because you are generalizing people based on there region
 
Number of solutions replaced within 6 months
Welcome to the world ...
 
11:24 AM
If I could pick a dream team from this room the geographic spread'd be statistically insignificant. The origin really wouldn't matter.
 
ok ok ok.. I have to declare the latest coolest hipster shit...
 
Look, if sometihing is wrong, you should say its wrong, dont pass the excuse of "this is how world works"
 
its "Dash" connected to Eclipse via Plugin
 
@CustomizedName I don't believe that those generalisations are wrong, sorry.
 
now thats awesome
 
11:25 AM
Chinese software is generally trash.
As are Chinese products.
That's what you get from mega economies.
 
@Sippy What I am saying is, you shouldn't generalize
 
Why's that?
 
@Sippy Let it go. That's really not a conversation I (we?) wanna have tonight
 
@monners Fair. Also 'tonight' lolol
It's midday man!
dunno what you're talking about.
 
11:27 AM
I speak from the future
 
holy crap
 
My girlfriend called me from Sydney on New Years Eve. At 06:00pm... future stuff over there
 
you mean Sydney?
 
06:00pm
brain imploding
 
11:29 AM
whoops, sorry. This happens too often
haha
 
@CustomizedName You can outsource to China if you want, I'll stick with Western devs.
You aren't gonna change my mind on this so let's drop it ey? :)
 
We are Australia. We are ahead of the U.S. by half a day.
We are the testing grounds for new products.
We are the first to tell you that they *suck*.
 
Lol, I am talking about generalization not about coding, I would code it myself, no out sourcing
 
Good morning
 
hai
 
11:32 AM
@monners i decided to quit education
and i wasn't confused about which institution to attend
i was confused about to attend or not to
i figured out college is not helping and i can always go back [in next 3 years] and finish the last year
 
@AbhishekHingnikar Good to hear. Welcome to the debt-free graduate society
 
@monners hehe. i ain't a graduate but I am going to focus my time on learning things and being more productive
 
@AbhishekHingnikar If you're already employable, uni isn't gonna help you
In some of my job applications the companies were asking for a degree OR 3 months commercial experience
 
i guess after a decent product on web built completely by me. I should be employable
 
I thought it was nice to know that my three years of toil was worth 3 months of work.
 
11:34 AM
@AbhishekHingnikar You quit before fourth year ;=;
 
@monners I am UK graduate and dept free :-)
 
@AbhishekHingnikar I'd hire you
 
@CustomizedName ... how?
 
@Sippy Jobs x 2, Hours x 60, Years x 3
 
If your grades are good, scholarships will pay your tuition
 
11:35 AM
60 hours work a week?
 
See: my girlfriend's 4.3gpa. The school's paying her like 1800 a year to attend
 
Fuuuck that, I don't do that now lol
 
Paid £20,000 cash , no scholarship
 
@Cereal my grades suck ass
 
@Cereal in the UK you only get a scholarship from the military or if you do sports.
 
11:36 AM
8.0 / 10.0
 
I think a few businesses do it as well
 
@Sippy or if it's PHD or Masters..
 
@AbhishekHingnikar Same. Oh god, same
 
reason : I just can't write stupid shit... no matter how much u pay me [stupidier then what i write in this room]
 
@CustomizedName Still gotta pay in most cases.
 
11:37 AM
@Sippy do you work for a company, as I see you chating here most of the day :P
 
LSE invited me to do a masters but wanted 20k for it ..
I do.
You see me chatting here cos I'm trying to fix the stupidest bug I've ever seen in a legacy application
So I am thinking/chatting.
 
legacy application
 
@GNi33 there is minecraft binding for python
 
there is? cool
 
yes and probably that won't scare his babysitter off, because java
 
11:39 AM
@CustomizedName ?
 
reminds of my old days, No documentation, No Experts around, developers who developed it no where to be found
 
I know who developed it
They just have no memory of doing it.
The change requests I'm working on were submitted a year ago lol
 
@monners Get her to use redstone and command blocks.
 
@Sippy you are well ahead of schedule then :L
 
@CustomizedName Meh, I'm no project manager, I just make stuff that does stuff.
 
11:42 AM
@monners It depends on her age when i was 13 scratch was a fun langauge for me scratch.mit.edu and i wrote a lot of code in scratch, It was just incredible because the community is very well managed and extremely helpful. Had java been my first language i'd stop writing code ffs. Python is also a very valid candidate for age 16+ (In india we are moving to teaching people python in last 2 years of school) and python is also extremely readable.
 
who wants to be a PM @Sippy they get less paid and more work + stress
 
@CustomizedName less paid lol. funny joke guy!
 
Primary school should be ~ 13. I guess scratch appeals more :P but that just me
 
@monners Alice may be good way for girls to learn programming.
 
My Dad is a PM and he earns well into 6 figures :)
 
11:44 AM
@Sippy Is that in IT ?
 
Nop
 
there you go then ;)
 
Public sector project managers earn a lot though
The guy who managed NPfIT before it crashed was a complete idiot
And he was on 150 odd
 
public sector is a different story, some people earn shit and some are on top salaries
 
I'm public sector.
Pretty much everyone is on good money.
Cos it's tax money lol
 
11:47 AM
@KendallFrey is alice general purpose ?
oh darn its 3d scratch, i remember
i like scratch for its community tbh
 
@Sippy Lol, true, tell me you are on 60K then - for me anything less then that is crap
 
@monners I haven't played it yet :p
 
@CustomizedName As if, I'm 21.
 
If she truly wants to become a programmer, give her the tools and she will use them herself.
 
@CustomizedName Gimme 3 more years on ASP.NET and I'll be on 50k+
 
11:49 AM
@KendallFrey very true.
 
@monners I think Python would yield good results. It's pretty interactive and exciting
 
but tools like java .. ugh
 
Maybe even JavaScript
 
I know! Show her brainfuck!
 
@SomeGuy i dk how old she is
 
11:50 AM
I know I found being able to use alerts in JS exciting because you could make any website say anything
 
@KendallFrey he'd have to call it brainf***
 
why?
 
shes in primary school
 
@KendallFrey Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
Brainfuck isn't an obscenity, it's a programming language.
 
11:50 AM
You think primary school kids don't know the word fuck?
 
I didnt :P
but i didn't had the internet so T_T
 
@Sippy Indian developers earn more then that with +3 years experience ;)
 
@SomeGuy Oh the days of innocence.
@CustomizedName Not if they suck they don't.
 
@CustomizedName Indian devs earn $50k?
 
£50k*
 
11:52 AM
lolnoway
 
He's saying indian devs with 3 years exp will earn more like $110k
:P
 
Hahaha
@AbhishekHingnikar Any thoughts on that? ^
 
@SomeGuy £50K
@Sippy trust me developers always get away with it @UK
 
Then I'm gonna be earning a lot of money
Cos I have no intention of being a shit developer.
 
Oh, are you talking about Indian developers in the UK?
 
11:54 AM
@SomeGuy they just don't unless they are in UK
 
We hired an indian guy who was perfect on paper
 
@AbhishekHingnikar Yep, even the thought is hilarious
 
And then when he was asked to do something, he spent 2 days on the phone to his friend trying to figure out how to do an extremely simple task.
 
@AbhishekHingnikar what ?, are we living in 1990s ?
 
@CustomizedName Where in India are you?
 
11:55 AM
@SomeGuy Paris
 
dude I knew the guy who had a chance to have a dinner with Amazon CTO, and was invited by the Amazon person. -_-
his salary wasn't compared to $110k
 
It all starts with dinner...
 
@KendallFrey haha, he owns a startup now. I worked with him .. great guy but extremely stubborn
 
thing is developers are earning over £50K in India...
 
@CustomizedName I'm assuming your idea of the salary in India is based on facts from someone?
 
11:57 AM
and bigger apple fan then I am
@CustomizedName where ?
 
Not just fluff?
Because I haven't heard of the average salary for a dev in India earning anywhere near that much
 
LOOOOL
 
There might be one in the entire country who earns that much
 
maximum salary in Indian tech industry TCS CEO : 11.6 Crore
 
11:58 AM
I am not talking about average salary
 
$110K comes to around 66 Lakh
hmm possible.
 
we are talking about per year as well
 
@SomeGuy guys in Microsoft India can mint that money
 
Loooool
 
@CustomizedName Yeah, that I knew
If not the average, what? Median?
 
11:59 AM
but even they will be star employees
 
@SomeGuy Anyone can earn this wage, keep it that simple
depends on what your tactics are
 
@SomeGuy ... don't involve your brain you have better uses for it and probably you will make more money then that 5 years later.
 
Uhhuh, so you aren't talking about statistics at all
Regardless, I've got to go study!
 
@SomeGuy have fun !
@monners scratch.mit.edu/projects/3028334 good old memories
 
Always.
 
12:01 PM
:D
 
@AbhishekHingnikar study === fun?
 
@SomeGuy you want money, let me know, i will show you the way
 
study === get drunk reading a book
 
@Sippy everything you do should be fun
otherwise there is no point in doing it.
 
@CustomizedName Sounds like something I'd flag as spam :p
But sure, show me the way later
 
12:02 PM
@SomeGuy lololol
 
okay then, leave it as that then ;)
 
@CustomizedName I can make $1,000,000 in an hour actually
 
saves me some time
 
you with me init ?
 
@AbhishekHingnikar yeah marry bill gates' daugther ;)
 
12:03 PM
@CustomizedName non-suicidal way dude. ps contacting her will take ages.
 
become a baba
 
@CustomizedName am talking about robbing a bank !
 
am out
 
So you are suggesting ways to steal by using people's trust ?
but not by stealing up front T_T.
 
Best way to steal money
Scrape bank transactions from domestic users
 
12:09 PM
MBA is not retina display ?
 
Hm?
@AbhishekHingnikar imore.com/…
 
@AbhishekHingnikar Not right now it's not
I imagine it would kill the battery life if they did
 
They are selling at ~ 25% off , indicating they are probably wanting to launch something even better.
i saw one mba 13 4gig ram , 1.4ghz -2.7 turbo-boost, 128 GB SSD for 56000
that is almost the same price they are sold in USA for :o
now am confused to buy it or not. cause for the company i NEED a mac
or i need to rely on somebody for the iOS client
probably i'd go with a mac-mini
M.R.P.: 99,900.00
Price: 39,900.00
Sale: 34,945.00
seriously wtf !
 
ASR
why this code is not working where did i do mistake? jsfiddle.net/ZEpLV/49
 
Homework?
@AbhishekHingnikar if you need a mac for work, get a macbook pro.
xcode is the biggest resource hog, and the ios simulator is even worse.
 
12:23 PM
@Cereal hmm. i just want it to compile stuff for me
My current work machine is

Proc : intel i7 4770k - 4.1 GHz
Ram : 16 Gigs 1600Mhz
HDD : 1TB 7400 RPM
GPU : Gtx 625 (the suckiest part)
 
4770k ! highfive
 
:-)
But I do not have any laptop now ^^
!!youtube bear grylls
 
I can't decide if I want to install windows back on my computer or not. On one hand: Games. On the other hand: Fuck developing on windows
 
why no SSD?
 
12:26 PM
@Cereal Dual-boot
 
@Cereal: Get two machines. windows as a desktop, linux as a dev machine (which you access via SSH and SMB)
that's even better than dualboot!
 
@Cereal ^
 
@ThiefMaster That's money though...
 
@Cereal vagrant it ? for now
 
Visual Studio doe..
 
12:26 PM
@Zirak I've failed trying to do this once, I suppose I could try again
 
Install Windows first, linux second, you'll be fine.
 
That's what I did the first time
lol
 
you can build a very decent dev box with a i5 cpu and a ssd for less than 500€
 
@ThiefMaster I need a display port - My monitor will only do 60hz over display port
 
@Zirak :-) that doesn't works everytime.
 
12:28 PM
I haven't actually looked at how cheap I can get a gpu with a display pport though
 
HDMI ?
ps here is my screen and i just love it
 
@AbhishekHingnikar No, display port. It's different
 
I got a machine with 64GB RAM GTX-670 Card, i7 4860K
 
ASR
@AbhishekHingnikar can u see this fiddle? jsfiddle.net/ZEpLV/49
 
12:29 PM
@ASR Your code got genetics problem
 
@CustomizedName Why would you ever need that much ram
 
@Sippy SharePoint
 
@Cereal mine is as good as my iPhone / iPad on color quality.
 
Mine has 8 million pixels !
 
12:30 PM
@CustomizedName Sharepoint eugh grim
 
ASR
@CustomizedName what it is it mean?
 
@Cereal let my dual ti's come i will smoke yours with an eyefinity
 
Gpu doesn't change the number of pixels t.t
 
user2985029
@ASR missing an if after the else
 
@Cereal they can change the max - resolution you can support though :P
without lag x_x
 
user2985029
12:31 PM
@ASR instead of else (this.value=='2') change it to else if (this.value=='2')
 
@ThiefMaster if I put my SSD in another box, linux will "just werk" right? It won't go full windows and prevent access?
 
my gpu barely runs this screen (its really underpowered)
 
user2985029
@ASR or just replace the else with an if
 
ASR
@xxx ok thank you
 
@AbhishekHingnikar 3840x2160, 60hz
 
12:33 PM
1920 * 1080, 60hz with touch :P (and the touch does make a difference because windows 8)
 
I think I have a 650 in my machine. If I can swap the SSD to another box without losing all my shit, I might just build a dev box
 
do I instantly win because I don't pay for my hardware?
 
\o/
 
ASR
@xxx how to show form1 as default?
 
12:34 PM
My girlfriend will not be happy if I spend the money on a new machine >.>
 
buy her a mac, then ssh it and use it 3:)
 
@AbhishekHingnikar She doesn't like mac (translation: she doesn't like change)
 
@Cereal I'm this close (imagine my fingers close together) to just buying my gf a gaming desktop
 
@rlemon x_x
 
12:36 PM
@rlemon I've been building her a gaming desktop for the past year or so. Every now and then I'll upgrade a part.

Most recently stuck an SSD in there, and added some ram
 
she has a MSI gaming laptop
but it is like 2 years old now
so it is almost useless :P
 
Yeah, she has a lenovo "gaming" laptop. Prolly 3-4 years old now. Doesn't run shit
 
my girl writes better code then i do and she just started 5 days ago. Am i really bad at code ?\?
 
@AbhishekHingnikar css != code
 
No now shes invading javascript too :-/
i am scared :'( :'(
 
12:37 PM
@Cereal ew
lenovo
 
ps scss is code
 
@rlemon I really want one of razer's laptops. Sexy as fuck
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum Zira is just me without any potassium
5
 
But 3500 dollars...
 
@Zirak Flourine uranium carbon potassium bismuth technetiumhelium sulfur germanium thulium oxygen neon yttrium
 
12:38 PM
Thanks
 
@Cereal for you or for her?
 
I haven't been told that in years
 
@rlemon Me
If I spent 3500 dollars on her, I think she'd shoot me
 
@Zirak -70 years
 
user2985029
@ASR remove style='display:none;' from the div that has id='myform1'
 
12:40 PM
@Cereal shes so nice :-)
mine loves to spend cash, blindly x-x, on clothes
 
@Zirak (F)(U)(C)(K)(Bi)(Tc)(He)(S)(Ge)(Tm)(O)(Ne)(Y)
 
ASR
@xxx thank u so much done already
 
@AbhishekHingnikar She's crazy. She's going into 3rd year university @ 7k a year tuition only... and has 6k still saved, with the school paying her a couple grand to attend ._.

I wish I was half as smart as this girl x.x
 
8gb ram for dev machine eh?
 
12:43 PM
16gb or gtfo
(although my laptop only has 8 atm)
 
Really? Do you think? I don't know if I'd ever run enough to warrent it...
My gaming machine I udnerstand, because 3 screens with multiple games open
But just for developemtn..
 
there is a guy hiding in this pic, can u find him ?
 
yes but it seems fake
 
yeah i thought so, i am wondering wher his face went
and wtf o_O ?
 
@AbhishekHingnikar what?
oh, yep that's a photoshop, pretty sure
 
12:50 PM
@GNi33 the guy on bottom o_o
in lemon's picture
he looks like 30isque
 
this however isn't a photoshop
@GNi33 will burn your house down...
WITH LEMONS!
 
I should go for AMD to keep the price down, eh?
 
@Cereal nahh i7
 
@rlemon but money
 
use a gpu from ati or asus motherboard
 
12:52 PM
yeah, and after I burned your house, I'll pose in front of it, totally not giving a fuck. You have been warned, people, you have been warned
 
@GNi33 you can ask in Furious Gaming PC Rigs group on facebook
they help a lot
 
or ask @Loktar
 
you pinged the wrong guy! Prepare your house to be burned!
 
@av
 
12:53 PM
@Lok'Tar what gaming rig should @Cereal get?
 
Wait.. isn't that what the orcs say in wow
 
and all of a sudden it makes sense now :P
 
@rlemon Noooo, dev box
I have a gaming pc, it just has linux on it right now
 
get a system76 laptop
 
/me looks at price
[heavy breathing]
I want a desktop because I have intention of using a uhd monitor for gaming. I need my screenspace for developing
Oh they sell desktops
No display ports
 

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