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08:05
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@Yatin did you look for what the methods you're doing do in MDN :)?
08:21
@Benjamin : Dudde ... PLease help me ... i am using javascript for this stackoverflow.com/questions/21800782/…
what is MDN ??
@Yatin: MDN = Mozilla Developer Network
nope..
not yet
@Yatin do not post your question multiple times here. I gave you a lead - follow it.
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ok @BenjaminGruenbaum :
But please guide me on this
7 mins ago, by Benjamin Gruenbaum
@Yatin did you look for what the methods you're doing do in MDN :)?
s/doing/using/
08:27
?
did not get you
my wbsite works for IE only
Stop.. Spamming. You're a developer, read the manual.
It's explained there very clearly. You want a single element and you want its content, instead, you are selecting the node and not accessing its content or worse - selecting a whole collection.
hmm ... so my question how to access its content
any answer
-_-'
Sup @Qantas94Heavy ?
I'm voting for Jon Clements, You and Madera probably but I'm not sure yet. Why do you want to be a mod anyway?
@BenjaminGruenbaum -_-
^ Asian
lol
you are also asian
08:35
@AbhishekHingnikar what?
@Mosho i am indian .
@BenjaminGruenbaum -_- vs -_-
?
i was reading an article on why asians have relatively smaller faces
and that kinda cracked me up
@AbhishekHingnikar u
So is txt spk banned here ?
08:38
y u do dis
muscle memory
my brain orders to type you and my hand types u
@AbhishekHingnikar I call it the "plz kind sir, urgent!!" instinct.
@BenjaminGruenbaum no not that
its more or less because of texting too much with college friends.
they type hindi like that man !
tm ky kr rhe h ? [ tum kya kar rahe ho ] [ what are you doing ? ]
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Q: Fixing incorrect 'NAA' flags in the queue

Benjamin GruenbaumIn the last few days I noticed the several hundred flags and thought I'd chip in. I've been noticing that a lot of flags in the Not An Answer queue are really attempts to answer the question. Just really poor ones. When I myself when I started flagging I got some incorrect flags too for using "N...

anyone with good haskell-fu here?
My function seems stuck in infinite recursion
Prelude> let h 0 = 0
Prelude|     h x
Prelude|       | x > 9 = undefined
Prelude|       | otherwise = x`mod`16 + 10*(h x`div`16)
Prelude|
08:47
> When I myself when I started flagging I got some incorrect flags too for using "Not An Answer" for things that were just really poor attempts to answer the question.
@BenjaminGruenbaum Probably should rephrase that
tested with h 2
@SomeGuy please feel free to edit it
@JanDvorak the h function call in otherwise. (function calls have the highest precedence)
@BenjaminGruenbaum I would, but I'm not entirely sure what you mean
@BenjaminGruenbaum should go to the h 0 = 0 branch, shouldn't it?
@JanDvorak no, you're calling h(2) over and over
08:49
I guess you just typed "when I" again by mistake?
@SomeGuy that I got some flags wrong when I started
Yeah, typed it two times by mistake, please edit as you see fit.
oh. so inline functions don't have higher precedence than prefix functions? Thanks
Prefix functions?
@JanDvorak yes. (IIRC function application has the highest priority)
@monners Haskell.
@BenjaminGruenbaum: geez, why so public? ;)
08:51
Ah.
@Qantas94Heavy :P?
@BenjaminGruenbaum Your voting patterns, if you're not lying.
@Qantas94Heavy Yeah, I got some incorrect flags when I started. I did not understand the system very well initially. I have 30 incorrect flags in total (I learned right after I saw the rejection reason).
Over 1100 correct ones iirc.
I'm not ashamed to admit my mistakes, especially since I think we can make the site better. I'm a reasonable guy and some meta people know me. It's a different impact coming from me and not a new user.
For example, I validated a flag on this as NAA because I didn't understand it very well.
@BenjaminGruenbaum Anyway, to answer your question before -- I'd like to be a mod because I want to take over and sabotage Stack Overflow, suspending everyone and anyone on sight.
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Great honest answer :D
08:59
If I was seduced and on my meds, I'd say it's because I want to be able to set examples of how to act towards other users, as well as being able to help users understand how we work, while being a (slightly) authoritative source for how to go about things.
you don't sound 15 :|
what do you guys prefer nowadays for Asynchronous loading?
@andho if i am using angular then angular
if i am using jQuery then jQuery ... and so on
and if u just wanna load a javascript file asycnc very minimalistically there is also script.js
Works just fine for x < 10 now, thanks. Now to fix the function being undefined when it shouldn't for x > 15 :-/
I'm starting a medium-large project that will run on mobile. I've had experience with require.js + backbone.js but I didn't feel v comfy with it require.
09:07
@Mosho: wait, where did I say I was 15 days old? I'm 5578 days old.
@AbhishekHingnikar jquery? you mean..you write a <script> tag into the document using jquery?
@Qantas94Heavy that's better
-_-
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A: how to bypass Access-Control-Allow-Origin?

Darin DimitrovYou may take a look at the following article which explains different methods.

:P
Dem flaggers :/
09:09
dat 500k rep
@BenjaminGruenbaum are you saying it's not a valid NAA?
what is it, then?
so many trigger happy down voters :)
@JanDvorak it's "Leave a comment, give him 2 days to fix it and if he doesn't - flag as NAA"
@BenjaminGruenbaum given it's 3 years old... it's pretty much a broken window
and that fixing it leads to duplicate answers
@JanDvorak why?
09:12
"if a 500k user can post a link-only answer, why shouldn't I?"
@JanDvorak I'm not saying the answer is good, I'm saying you should give him a chance before flagging it.
He obviously knows right from wrong, the answer is just old.
@BenjaminGruenbaum @JanDvorak also, new users should be given the same chance. (give them a change to improve their answer)
@andho no, they shouldn't. Neither would Darin if that question was from last week.
@BenjaminGruenbaum they really should be given a chance to improve.
also, commenting first would be easier if the autocomment script wasn't broken
09:15
@andho they shouldn't be in this case anyway.
I don't think two days is neccesary
@JanDvorak why? You think he won't improve it or remove it on his own?
in case of new answers, at least
Yeah, in new answers I agree.
Let's see how he reacts :-)
I disagree that it's NAA, I just don't think it should be flagged that fast.
(*I don't), you mean?
@JanDvorak yeah :P
I'm tired :P
09:24
point taken anyways, thanks
@BenjaminGruenbaum Quick question; how do you use Git on Windows? And what terminal shell do you use, if any?
@SomeGuy git bash
Awesome, thanks
> No instance for (Eq (a0 -> a0)) arising from a use of `=='
I'm switching to Windows for development now
09:31
:-(
Chrome on Linux doesn't perform well for me
^
@SomeGuy get a bunch of dev tools and maybe a custom rainmeter desktop for productivity
if u miss ur ubuntu :D
@SomeGuy Thought about maybe switching to OSX ?
Haha, no, thanks
:-)
@monners i am :D
13" MBP -> Retina 16 gig ram + 2.6ghz i7 quad core
09:37
do you guys use cloud9
it's pretty nice
512GB PCIe-based flash storage1
@Mosho no
just no
@AbhishekHingnikar Go for the 15" You won't regret it :D
my internet is 256kbps .. damn sure can't
@monners I will regret 15"
@AbhishekHingnikar what's wrong with it
cause i will starve to death
@Mosho 256kbps internet ?
09:38
@AbhishekHingnikar Food's overrated
cloud9
@monners keeps me alive
@Mosho depends on internet
@AbhishekHingnikar You call that living? :P
oh
@monners the 13" can run a 24" inch monitor son
09:39
I don't even know what I have
@AbhishekHingnikar Sure, but can it run two 27" monitors?
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Q: Should users be given a chance to correct their old answers before flagging?

Benjamin GruenbaumShould users be given a chance to correct their old answers before flagging? I've been having a (too meta admittedly) with another user on this answer which is a 3 years old answer by Darin Dimitrov. We disagree on whether or not old link only answers should be flagged immediately or a grace pe...

well i can save and get a mac-pro in a few months
that can run well 3 - 4k displays
but theres no point
True. Do that, and let me know how it performs :D
my current laptop can also power 3 27" monitors
@monners Mac - PRO ?
09:41
@AbhishekHingnikar Well now you're just bragging
that won't even break a sweat
@monners lol
i am not
it can technically do it
cc @JanDvorak , @Qantas94Heavy
@AbhishekHingnikar I know, but I don't actually know anyone that's strongly for them. The new iMac's are pretty beefy and I'm kinda curious as to what the Mac Pro really is capable of :P
@monners mac pro can do anything man its fucking server grade hardware
but its too pricey
09:43
@BenjaminGruenbaum MBP vs Series 9 samsung
but, but, it has an apple on it
the only option i have against mbp / mba is series 9
@OctavianDamiean /cc [i confused who had the series 9]
To get the Mac Pro I'd actually wanna buy would cost me something in the range of $8K
@AbhishekHingnikar But that's more or less besides the point if you're looking for a laptop :P
am thinking of buying the mbp 13" w/t i7 & 16 gig ram ... is that wise ? $2199
@monners my current laptop weighs almost same as a mac-pro i guess
Sure, but if you're spending that kinda money wouldn't it be worth it to save a bit more and get the more powerful model?
09:45
if I had 8k for a toy it would be
Yeah, Mac Pro is freakishly compact.
!!google TD-30KV
joocy
If I had 8K to burn it'd be going to http://www.cannondale.com/aus/catalog/product/view/id/31534/s/synapse-hi-mod-black-inc/category/916/
That thing's the Stealth Bomber of road bikes.
09:46
@KendallFrey teamviewer on linux exists, it uses wine so the interface is weird, but it works
haven't been on a bike without a motor in at least 10 years
@FlorianMargaine it works decently
the latest version comes with bundled wine.. nothin weird
@Mosho for me it would be hmm
The interface was weird the last time I used it
But that was a long time ago
It just looked weird. Worked just fine
MAC PRO :D
@SomeGuy so .... which windows version are you switching to ?
Don't tell me 7 please
Win 7 is what I've always had
So yeah, 7
09:50
:'( sobs
would u like windows 8.1 ?
I don't know, haven't tried it
i like the cleaner [no aero bs] and fresh feel of win 8 over win 7
I might try it later because I do want to look into JavaScript apps on Win 8
@SomeGuy Have you tried 8?
09:51
they are fun [:
52 secs ago, by Some Guy
I don't know, haven't tried it
windows 8.1 lets you do way more then what i expected with javascript .. control cameras
lower level communication access
self control caching etc etc.
windows can run javascript?
@t1wc better then a browser now
A wild troll appears.
09:52
@SomeGuy -_-
Javascript is now a native language for windows platform
@AbhishekHingnikar A guy at my office just got one of these...
http://www.cnet.com/laptops/alienware-18/4505-3121_7-35828495.html
// hides before bartek shoots me down for calling it stuff
only since 8, right?
@monners shit
09:53
otherwise I'm a complete noob
@AbhishekHingnikar Shit good, or shit bad?
yes
@monners shit bad
the laptop wont last more then an year if he moves it a lot
@AbhishekHingnikar I'm inclined to agree
the inertia will kill parts slowly
i have a tanktop aswell
!!tell monners google g55vw
Well it's not really a laptop now, is it?
okay good bot
@AbhishekHingnikar Most welcome
my laptop is dying faster then i am.
09:55
@AbhishekHingnikar And that's.... bad?
yes, horrible
@AbhishekHingnikar Then either you're dying way too quickly, or you've seriously over-evaluated your hardware expectations :P
former and slightly latter
Oh, you might like this, @AbhishekHingnikar randomuser.me/extension
09:56
@AbhishekHingnikar Can I have your baseball card collection?
@SomeGuy i am not building a social network anymore
that is useless for me ;D
Haha, cool
@SomeGuy that seems really pointless... :S
@monners I don't collect baseball cards
@AbhishekHingnikar Neither do I.
09:58
@monners nope, it's really useful when designing
^
@FlorianMargaine would u like to be a model ?
@FlorianMargaine You can't just set up a few layer comps with different placeholder avatars?
I mean you are french, sexy, awesome .. comon :D
@AbhishekHingnikar nope
09:59
@AbhishekHingnikar first is true, others not so much
French === "nonchalant"
you are sexy !
@monners "placeholder avatars" suck
Object.hasOwnProperty( French.prototype, 'sexy' ); // true
you have a way prettier picture with real color people

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