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user1596138
9:01 PM
Since we're all answering the same question... I gave it a go.
 
user1596138
I think it was important to point out that $(this)[0] will work, because now he can hopefully understand the problem at it's core instead of just being told "it doesn't work"
 
user1596138
Annnnndddd... Downvote?
 
Yes. Downvote.
 
user1596138
Explain
 
user1596138
It is the same answer as the others, but with more information.
 
9:03 PM
Your answer says nothing new.
 
user1596138
@qwertynl Firstly: That does not warrant a downvote, this is not how SO works.
 
@Jhawins If it wasn't how it worked then there would not be a downvote button.
 
user1596138
Secondly: It does. It explains in more detail and wording how/why it works. Which is important. A newer user will learn far easier from code+textual explanation than from code.
 
If you hover over the downvote it says "This answer is not useful", which it isn't
 
user1596138
@qwertynl The answer is correct. Whether or not it shows the same info as another doesn't matter. You do not downvote correct answers because you are butt hurt.
 
9:05 PM
@Jhawins I am married. To a woman. So no butt hurt...
 
user1596138
Just as I will not be downvoting yours. Which is identical to mine with less useful info.
 
Haha thanks for the downvote @Jhawins (and from your puppet)
 
user1596138
I don't have a puppet, and I didn't downvote you.
 
user1596138
> Just look at the checked attribute of the DOM object (this):
 
user1596138
^ Is incorrect
 
9:07 PM
lol suuuure. But I do have a puppet.
@Jhawins haha how is that incorrect?
 
user1596138
!!s/attribute/property/
 
@Jhawins Just look at the checked property of the DOM object (this): (source)
 
puppet..?
 
user1596138
@qwertynl You have a puppet? What does this mean>
 
@Jhawins It means I have a second SO account.
 
user1596138
9:08 PM
@RUJordan I got 2 downvotes. He's using multiple accounts.
 
@Jhawins lol I never said I downvoted you twice.
 
user1596138
@ThiefMaster I have an issue here. Sorry to bother you. This user just admitted to using a "puppet" account to double -1 me.
 
@Jhawins Haha no I did not :-P
@Jhawins complain in the Tavern:
 
user1596138
@qwertynl You can take that up with the moderators. I have pinged theifmaster, and if he disagrees with me there is no need to go to the Tavern. If he agrees, there is also no need to go to the Tavern. Thank you for your suggestion.
 
Ha.
 
9:10 PM
Are you two fucking kidding me?
 
@RUJordan again. wife.
 
No offense, but all that ^ just seems childish
Just my opinion.
 
@RUJordan haha I know. Dunno what @Jhawins thinks happened.
How old are you @Jhawins ?
 
user1596138
@RUJordan He's using a dummy account to double -1 people... Are you saying I'm the one being childish? Haha
 
You were born in the 90's weren't you?
 
user1596138
9:12 PM
I just muted him and moved on.
 
@qwertynl Age has nothing to do with it, I know kids less childish than both of you put together
 
Ouch, that's a pretty harsh burn coming from @connorspiracist
 
user1596138
Am I wrong for assuming that creating a "puppet" account is against the rules?
 
@SomeKittens there was a post from stackoverflow once
It may have been on the blog or something
from the creator of stackoverflow i think
it was a joke but true
 
@Jhawins I don't know if a puppet account is illegal, but you are claiming he used it (without proof) to downvote you twice, when he only stated he had one.
 
9:13 PM
@Jhawins You can create a puppet as long as there are no voting irregularities (which I do not have)
 
If you had proof it was him, that would be a different story.
 
It's surprising what people will do for fake internet money
he said
 
user1596138
@RUJordan And a moderator will be able to see if it was true. But honestly, why would anyone else have downvoted a correct answer?
 
I need a bit of css help
 
9:14 PM
lol
@BartekBanachewicz go for it
 
Yeah! Give us internet monay!
 
I'd like that to be aligned with the white content thing below (i.e. a bit to the right)
 
@Jhawins some people might not see how it's correct
 
@BartekBanachewicz margin-left: 25px; ?
 
user1596138
The logical conclusion from what he said is that he was "puppeteering." While also downvoting my correct answer only because it "wasn't anything new" even though it provided more information and a direct solution to the OPs problem. Which was new.
 
9:16 PM
@connorspiracist content div is responsive, so it moves around.
 
Fuck it, mod was pinged, i'm not getting into this lol
 
user1596138
Basically: He got butt hurt that I posted a better answer lol.
 
@Jhawins haha all you did was copy my answer and add random stuff that could have been added in a comment. Whatever, I am done.
 
user1596138
Aw look at that it got accepted... :)
 
user1596138
I'm tempted to un-ignore him because I know he's gotta be pinging me hahaha
 
9:17 PM
@BartekBanachewicz do you have like margin: 0 auto; on the white box?
 
@Jhawins PING!
 
@connorspiracist it's, erm, a bit complicated style in general. lemme check
 
@BartekBanachewicz is it live?
 
@qwertynl Command <>http://chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/1740877#1740877 does not exist.
 
9:18 PM
@connorspiracist nah, I'm working with jekyll locally
 
user1596138
Lol now using the bot to get to me.
 
but you can just apply the small changes i made so far to the live version
 
user1596138
Im sorry I hurt you... In your butt... It wasn't intentional.
 
9:18 PM
@BartekBanachewicz It's aligned on my screen
 
@connorspiracist it works with fixed-positioned banner, and I want to make it layouted normally
 
ohh
well quickly make the changes and i'll have a look
 
yeah sorry for a confusing explanation
@connorspiracist you just need to remove fixed from header, banner and that button. It uses some sort of magic negative margin-left I have no idea how does work really
Usually I don't like modyfying such complex layouts just because I can't understand them completely
but I like that design a lot :S
 
user1596138
Haha he went to the Tavern and said I don't understand how downvotes work. God that guy and me just do not mix well.
 
@Jhawins YAY MIXING!
Hey @rlemon I need a new conversation. How is your day going? :-)
 
9:29 PM
Lunch can't come soon enough
 
1st time to this room. howdy
 
You guys are making asses of yourselves in 2 rooms
 
@Phlume g'mornin
 
Just so you know
 
@Phlume Hi!
 
9:30 PM
@SomeKittens lunch? Where you live at?
 
@RUJordan Again. No A$$ES!
@RUJordan He is in NY
 
@RUJordan San Francisco, it's 1:30PM
 
Wait. what?
When did you move?
 
How can i make an a$$ of myself? lol. its 4:30 here in the States.. where ar you all from?
 
@Phlume NYC here. yay!
 
9:31 PM
Hey guys
 
@qwertynl Last May
 
can someone back me up here
0
A: Animation On Magnifying Glass with Jquery

Billy MathewsYour hover function needs to be inside your $(document).ready function. See my JsFiddle. I have made another jsFiddle to show you the same thing but with .animate instead of .css (even though it's totally irrelevant to the question).

 
sweet. new to JS here... so tell me... is Knockout worth the time?
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 Hmmmmm New job?
@BillyMathews hi
 
@Phlume uzbekistan
 
9:31 PM
@qwertynl horrible.
 
@Phlume learn vanilla.js first
 
whosawhi stan? :-) J/K
 
python is giving me the run around trying to build node from source
 
@rlemon oy, why? What happened? Serial ports failing again?
 
@qwertynl Out in May for new job, left that (was not what I was promised) in Nov for job I currently have (which I love)
 
9:32 PM
@Phlume I don't like it
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 cool :-) Good luck!
 
@qwertynl is it easier? relatively speaking...
 
error after error because of missing dependencies, finally got those sorted now it just stops after about 3 seconds. doesn't upgrade.
 
the data-bind seemed pretty promissing.
@connorspiracist what time is it there? 9:30? 11:30?
 
@Phlume Much easier. Check it out: vanilla-js.com
 
9:33 PM
@Phlume 21:34
 
@Phlume It's nice, but doesn't do everything. So long as you understand why you're using it, it does it well.
 
@rlemon :-( oy, I am sorry. The dependency mapping was messed up or something?
 
root@beaglebone:~/src/node-v0.10.24# ./configure
{ 'target_defaults': { 'cflags': [],
                       'default_configuration': 'Release',
                       'defines': [],
                       'include_dirs': [],
                       'libraries': []},
  'variables': { 'arm_fpu': 'vfpv2',
                 'arm_neon': 0,
                 'armv7': 0,
                 'clang': 0,
                 'gcc_version': 47,
                 'host_arch': 'arm',
                 'node_install_npm': 'true',
this should not be.
SHOULD NOT BE!!!!
 
wow. Late there. I just got home from work myself
so what is the rule/theory on asking for votes on posts? can we troll for upvotes? lol
 
@Phlume EST, I assume?
 
9:35 PM
@Phlume you're a free man right?
 
@Phlume No, that is usually illegal unless you are @Jhawins
 
@connorspiracist No, he's married
 
no he's a father
you don't need a wife for that
just someone uterus
 
The only time it's 100% acceptable to ask for upvotes is when one's trying to hit 20 to chat.
 
9:35 PM
lol yeah.. husband and father.. hence why I hang here with your dweebs LOL
 
dweebs?
 
Just got married myself.
 
kidding of course
 
@Phlume DWEEBS?!?!
 
user1596138
9:36 PM
He just won't let it go will he...
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 Mazal tov! When was that?
 
!!mute 1792792 30
 
@rlemon Please give mute duration, see /help mute
 
congrats @SomeKittensUx2666
lol
 
Note to self: throw rice at @SomeKittens
 
9:36 PM
@rlemon Muted user 1792792 for 30m
 
room mode changed to Gallery: anyone may enter, but only approved users can talk
 
Dec 21, 2013
 
no one calls us dweebs!!!!
 
user1596138
!!stat 1792792
 
9:37 PM
@Jhawins Phlume has 813 reputation, earned 230 rep today, asked 4 questions, gave 59 answers. avg. rep/post: 12.9. Badges: 0g 2s 19b
 
clearly joking
 
!!urban dweebs
 
room mode changed to Public: anyone may enter and talk
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 dweeb A dorky or nerdy person.
 
@Phlume What do you usually code in?
 
9:37 PM
im learning php and javascript.. usually by hand in dreamweaver
 
protip: ditch DW
 
@Phlume Dreamweaver?! LEAVE NOW!!
 
lol
 
I was there when I joined SO 3 years ago
 
its what they have at work
 
9:38 PM
@Phlume WOW, what a combination PHP & Dreamweaver
 
MUCH happier since I stopped using it
 
Yeah, Dreamweaver isn't conducive to learning how to code.
 
Talk about tying a brick to your balls
 
Is there any tool out there that could be used to design a basketball play?
 
Im an animator and creative guy thrown into scripting by pure position change
 
9:38 PM
since I stopped using it I realized how much of a crippling crutch it was
 
@Phlume That is no excuse... gut something else. Like PHPStorm is pretty darn good :-)
 
actually earning my MFA in game design
 
H8 dreamweaver
 
i want to be a level designer
 
I'm basically looking for a thing where I could set the routes that a player would run and who would get open.
 
9:38 PM
@Phlume Spirit level?
 
@connorspiracist spirit?
 
lol, really?
 
@qwertynl I'm restricted to what i can install at work.
 
@Phlume using DW is like letting your kids play with a dead rat. Sure it looks harmless... but it is infecting them with the plague ... RUN!
 
Where in New Hampshire, if I may ask
 
9:40 PM
@Phlume As am I. Just ask :-P
It will "improve your work experience"
 
Littleton
 
@rlemon I wasn't supposed to play with dead rats as a kid?
...shit.
 
"increases productivity" always wins over CO's
 
Im just starting to dig into SASS
 
@rlemon That too :-)
 
9:40 PM
Neat, that's pretty far up.
 
You could buy a car with the money you would pay for shitty dreamweaver
 
WAY up! lol
 
@Phlume continue using DW and you are effectively turning your kids into this:
 
i didn't pay at all.
 
@connorspiracist nothin like a Nissan POS
 
9:41 PM
 
My brother does code/animations/3d rendering and is looking for an internship, you guys want one?
 
Lookit that handsome mug
 
@rlemon who dat?
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 lol me too!
 
cocked locked and ready to rock
 
9:41 PM
@RUJordan dude, less manscaping on the brows man.
too obvious.
 
I got CS6 Master collection free through school.. no not torrent.. .adobe partnered with SCAD
So it's free for me to use.
 
Is that photoshopped? I've literally never touched my brows
 
@Phlume it isn't about the cost - it is about DW being a shit IDE
 
But those are like.. freaky perfect
then again, most of my bod is freakishly perfect
 
except those sassy girly fingers you are gently rubbing that gun shaft with lol
 
9:43 PM
Does anyone know how to get the width of an element as defined by css (I'm getting the current computed width while it's animating (css3 transition))
 
nimble code fingers i assume is your reasoning, no?
firebug?
 
Not really lol they look delicate but they've been put to hard labor since I was 10
 
no child labor laws for you, huh...? uphill both ways...
so... how does on get a talkative badge on SO? (nudge nudge)
 
Welp, looks like the big push was finished literally 40 min before the big investor meeting. Whew.
 
Haha I naw I did yardwork around the neighborhood till I was old enough to work. Then I was an animal restrainer at a vet, then a camp counselor, then a tech center worker, then a pizza delivery boy for 1 night, then a pool boy for 2 years, and now a developer.
 
9:45 PM
@rlemon FWIW i used notepad prior to this job
 
@Phlume comments on questions/answers i think
 
sounds like a nice CV...
@connorspiracist you need 10 messages in chat with one star.. it was a subtle hint ;-) lol
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@connorspiracist nice. ty dude
 
@Phlume Don't know what you're talking about 0.o
 
uh i need to separate all that crap
media-specific css should be in separate files, right?
 
@Phlume so did I. notepad++ is awesome as well. but yea. DW is not a good IDE and in fact will hinder productivity for most people
 
user1596138
9:49 PM
@rlemon I agree. My boss got it and thought I'd want to use it.
 
also NEVER use any code they produce for you
 
SO... no DW.. what then? PHPStorm... what other options do you suggest
 
fuck that I'll ask on SO
@Phlume ew php
 
@Phlume VIM ??
 
@Phlume I use SublimeText 2
 
9:49 PM
or wait, you are old. you might prefer vi
 
user1596138
@Phlume Sublime Text is nice
 
(hur hur hur)
 
lol
 
user1596138
Sublime Text 3 is still free for now I think.
 
@rlemon $ vi launches vim on most systems
 
9:49 PM
what the actual fuck IE7
 
user1596138
@RUJordan Oh this'll be good
 
@BartekBanachewicz not the systems I use. (most do not have vim :( )
 
the code reads <input ... />, and the IE7 inspected element says <input ...></input>
and everything is fucked up
and im really upset because i didn't write it
and now I have to fix it
 
man node.js takes FOREVER to compile on a beagleboard
 
:rage:
 
9:51 PM
Hey Guys, I'm sort-of new to jQuery and a friend has generously provided me with a plugin template. The problem I have ATM is that it runs the plugin on all matching elements. What's a good way to change the template so it runs only once and selects all the elements inside the plugin?
Or is that a bad approach?
 
I read that and I was like.. "You have your own ATM? Luckyyyy."
 
LMAO
 
!!urban lel
 
@SomeKittensUx2666 Lel Unlike what many people think lel is not an acronym in the same fashion that LOL is (it does not mean laughing extremely loud, laughing extra loud or similar). Lel (and variations including lal) resulted from the use of random vowels substituted in place of the 'o' in LOL. These vowels were used in an attempt to be different from the millions of internet game fags. The word however, in essence, still means LOL.
 
user1596138
lol qwertshit took to serial downvoting me again...
 
9:52 PM
I hate having to support IE7
 
user1596138
I just got like 4 more back to back.
 
i finally got the go ahead at work to set up a script to tell users to update their frickin browsers
 
user1596138
5 on questions > 1 month old. It doesn't get much more obvious than this.
 
@Jhawins You can flag your own question and have a mod look into it
 
Not a single downvote on your answers
It would be recorded in his rep
 
9:54 PM
his rep is showing someone serial voting him actually
:O
 
he was serial downvoted too
 
-1
A: html section gives unwanted result

rahularoraMake sure you're using <!DOCTYPE html> in your HTML document.

if you check mine, the downvote was for this ^^
just so you know...
 
user1596138
Weird...
 
user1596138
He did say he has multiple accounts. And seems competent enough to know not to use his main account. I wonder if he has 4-5 and spreading them out..
 
@Jhawins I had the same happen to me a while back. I know who one of the users was, but it had to be multiple users (his friends) because 9 downvotes never got reverted.
 
user1596138
9:55 PM
He obviously has put thought into serial downvoting. That's all I know for sure.
 
who is "he"
 
You obviously are paranoid as fuck
 
well we knew that
look at his transcript :P
 
Are we back on this again?
oy...
 
user1596138
It doesn't matter to me... But it confuses me haha
 
9:57 PM
im bout to mute all y'all and have this chat to myself
 
mine was from a user with ~50K rep who was butthurt that I called one of his bad answers 'a terrible answer'
guys...
 
> righting
lololol
 
My rep over the past 2 days ^
 
> I'm so smart, how dare he say this is a terrible answer. You know what? Fuck this lemon guy. And fuck this answer, and this answer, fuck this question, and this answer, fuck this answer again, and once more to this answer.
 
For those (@Jhawins) interested :-)
 
9:59 PM
@RUJordan url
 
user1596138
@RUJordan But... Your name is not italicized... :P Haha
 
@BartekBanachewicz made up quote
 
I know :(
 
user1596138
WHOA
 
9:59 PM
@Jhawins say what now?
 

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