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2:00 PM
kind trolls?
isn't that an oxymoron?
 
They troll you and kick you to the ground, but send you a card on Christmas
 
but when you open the card, it shoots you.
 
That's the trolls' sense of humour
If one day you understand French, listen to "Donjon de Naheulbeuk"
 
Oh its long but epic!
 
@dievardump haha completely :D
they're awesome
 
2:05 PM
@ThiefMaster Hey! Perl isn't nice or user-friendly!?
 
@Abhishek lol
nice one
 
:-)
 
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Q: Good javascript framework to integrate with Django?

MaverickI'm building a new web app. It will be in Django, but I'm now looking for a good frontend javascript library/framework to use. I know JQuery, but what about Backbone.js or node.js? Thoughts? I'm looking past JQuery because an MVC JavaScript library would be nice to use.

 
alrighty now i am going to finish the css-mess i started.
@FlorianMargaine use DOM
 
> I'm building a new web app. It will be in Django, but I'm now looking for a good frontend javascript library/framework to use.

> I know JQuery, but what about Backbone.js or node.js? Thoughts?
 
2:06 PM
node.js isn't front-end
unless I'm grossly mistaken
 
oh really? :)
you're not
that's why I'm pointing out this stupidity
 
node.js is frontend as per my tutor , according to her databases are backend everything else is frontend.
 
I mean, this ignorance
 
fou
@dievardump I use like this phone_btn.style.background-image='-webkit-gradient(linear, left top, left bottom, color-stop(15%,#ff8000), color-stop(50%,#fc0500), color-stop(51%,#fc0500), color-stop(100%,#fc0500))'; but I get gris button
 
2:07 PM
@Abhishek ffs, effing get her and be done with it
 
@FlorianMargaine Integrate front-end with back-end? Why would you want to do that?
 
@FlorianMargaine in what way ?
 
@Abhishek your tutor in what, exactly?
 
@Zirak it's actually not that stupid. If you're using backbone, there is a lot of REST routes that you already want
 
@canon somebody who is teaching C as a part of industrial training
 
2:08 PM
@Abhishek do you want a drawing?
 
@FlorianMargaine okay last of her jokes.
 
Aha...
 
@fou Just look at the guy answer and do the same thing. It works
 
@Abhishek it's somehow understandable...
it depends on your point of view
 
HER : " I love java server pages , and once you learn java you will love it aswell ",
ME : " Why ? Java hasn't got closures atleast till 6, i know there are in 7 but still"
Her : "Closures?"
ME : "[God ? How could u be so bad with me]"
 
2:10 PM
what's closure in java?
closure isn't the same in php and js, so just asking :|
 
there isnt (XD) , atleast till 6
 
@fou and instead of writing it inline. Create a css rule (with a class ) and just add the class to the button. No need for inline style here.
 
how can you say your server is front end? how can she think jsp is awesome
 
@Abhishek had promised us a picture...
 
what the fuck do they teach you over there in india?
 
2:11 PM
true dat ^
 
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Q: Closure in Java 7

Swaranga SarmaWhat is closure? It is supposed to be included in Java 7. Can anyone please provide me with some reliable references from where I can learn stuff about closures?

@Alnitak has it and will post it when is on his computer.
 
ok, java closure is the same as php closures
looks like js is the only one that has a different meaning
 
what is the point of disagreeing with a flag, you will just get disputed
 
huh?
man I wish I had enough rep to see flags and deleted stuff
 
@rlemon for me ? its something i have known since i was 16-17 , for everybody else its like OMG THIS IS SOO COOL!
right now they taught us C
 
2:13 PM
@rlemon heh, same
 
@Abhishek you just seem to know some very unintelligent people - and all of them are in your classes / school / or are your profs :P
 
but missed Linked Lists , Stacks , Queues , Binary File handling.
@rlemon not my fault (XD)
 
I don't even can CV
 
i am reading internet since past 6 years
 
@dievardump I can't even*
</grammar nazi>
 
2:14 PM
and i am acadamically not so nice , my academics suffer severly :-/
 
@FlorianMargaine Thx.
 
+ in india tech. which is taught is about 10-20 years lagging from what its taught over there
 
Ahaha you starred the Donjon
 
@Abhishek what, still learning COBOL?
 
meh, school is over rated - what can school do that the internet - a few good books - and dedication cannot do for $40 000 less.
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2:15 PM
so it might sound stupid to you but truth is education system here makes sure that most of its products will still be stupid
 
@dievardump yeah :D love this serie :p
 
@FlorianMargaine YES
not me bt some are going to do a course for it .. i'd just use C / C++ / JS for whatever
 
just remembered - some of you guys missed this that I posted last night
I was online on SO chat in the garden at the same time as taking that picture
 
Okay people farewell i will be back in like 30 minutes
 
@rlemon It's the problem of our domain. You can not learn at school. You have to practice and to read to do so.
 
2:16 PM
^
 
@Alnitak wow really nice
I don't have this kind of view, living in town
 
I don't live in town, but with the right image processing that can even be done in town
 
University education is terrible anyway since most of the teachers are more research/publishing-oriented than teaching-oriented
 
Programming taught to me in school: This is a variable, this is a loop, this is a function, this is a enum, etc... Here is an assignment to do some shit ass math and pump out a ugly UI but hey it's VB so who cares right. next I want you to make a console application that will take any given input and tell you it's closest prime number... ugh... really how does this help anyone?
 
and you end up getting your education from TA's anyway
it's garbage
 
2:18 PM
@Alnitak that's not the same as seeing it with your own eyes :]
 
yeah, but that object is barely visible even in binoculars
 
@rlemon It helps when you find out that lots of people don't know how to do that.
 
I am trying to find some decent project to write in C
 
that's 18 minutes worth of exposure time there
 
any suggestions ?
 
2:19 PM
@Abhishek IRC bot
 
get some fundamentals (book, online tutorial, friend, maybe school) - anything else past that is experience and trial and error and dedication to learning your trade and not taking the shortcuts that are killing the web
 
no sockets :P
TC 3.1
 
sucks :(
find the closest prime number of any input?
 
@rlemon My JavaScript teacher was pro-microsoft (he also was the ASP/ASP.NET teacher). He was a moron. " All I want is that what you write for me works on IE7"
 
:-|
how about a pong! :D
 
2:20 PM
Nothing really wrong with asp.net
 
@dievardump haha, "there, jQuery done"
 
one of many tools
but weird for a javascript teacher to harp on one browser
 
not so bad actually
 
that is a bad teacher.
 
if you know how to program for the worst browser, programming for others is a breeze
 
2:21 PM
"He was a moron" was the important thing
 
@FlorianMargaine unless the browser is IE 6
 
Not always Florian. 'cause you have short deadline, and like all JavaScript teacher, he asked us to do a text editor. With Bold/Italic/Links etc...
And IE7 does not behave like the others browsers on these stuffs
 
@FlorianMargaine got it i will do what u suggested :D
 
IE is an onomatopoeia... it's the sound you make when ever you have to use it....
 
hopefully she wont mind x-)
 
2:24 PM
my god today is dragging
 
dragging ?
@FlorianMargaine i hope you dont mind
me stealing ur picture for a test page
 
@rlemon can you remind me your living town please ?
 
Kitchener, why do you ask?
 
It's kind of the middle of nowhere
 
sounds like my place
 
2:28 PM
I plan to go to live in Vancouver in November
 
@Abhishek like I care
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A: In ECMAScript, how are some of native objects also built-in?

Florian MargaineHere is what ES5 shows: 4.3.6 native object # Ⓣ object in an ECMAScript implementation whose semantics are fully defined by this specification rather than by the host environment. NOTE Standard native objects are defined in this specification. Some native objects are built-in; other...

 
I'm going there on Saturday
 
And I think I'll go there making a little "road trip"
 
am I right about built-in objects?
 
@dievardump lol not really
 
2:29 PM
@FlorianMargaine :-) :D no worries then
i just wanted to be polite and ask first .
 
we have over a half million people in Kitchener-Waterloo
 
Passing by Quebec, Ottawa, Toronto, Edmonton, Calgary
 
that'll be a very harsh drive in November!
 
actually the KW area (we got grouped like the GTA in '11) is in the ten largest CMA's in canada.
The City of Kitchener () is a city in Southern Ontario, Canada. It is the seat of the Regional Municipality of Waterloo. It was the Town of Berlin from 1854 until 1912 and the City of Berlin from 1912 until 1916. The city had a population of 219,153 in the 2011 Census. The metropolitan area, which includes the neighbouring cities of Waterloo and Cambridge, has 477,160 people, making it the tenth largest Census Metropolitan Area (CMA) in Canada and the fourth largest CMA in Ontario. The city is adjacent to the smaller cities of Cambridge to the south, and Waterloo to the north. Kitchener a...
the wiki link is wrong - this year we pulled up over 500k
 
wow there is a lot of French
 
2:34 PM
Kitchener-Waterloo Oktoberfest is an annual nine-day festival in the twin cities of Kitchener-Waterloo, Ontario, Canada. Based on the original German Oktoberfest, it is billed as Canada's Greatest Bavarian Festival. It is held every October, starting on the Friday before Canadian Thanksgiving and running until the Saturday after and attracts an estimated 750,000-1,000,000 visitors every year. While its best-known draws are the beer-based celebrations, other cultural and entertainment attractions also fill the week. The most well-known is the parade held on Thanksgiving Day; as the only ma...
^ what brings the people :P
 
lol :D
ever went to german oktoberfest in munich?
it's...
well.
 
we got the largest Bavarian Festival outside of germany
 
gratz
I got germany ten hours away in car :p
 
not far enough...
 
I got the festival ten minutes away by foot.
 
2:37 PM
@rlemon Hum maybe I'll come to the Oktober Fest
It will remind me the German one
 
@dievardump where in Vancouver? 90% of my family is out there - gramps is a CO for bc ferries
 
Didn't decide for now. I have to find a job before
 
@dievardump it's good times - two weekends and events all week long.
 
My mother is coming to visit me in Oktober. It's far from Montreal but can be cool for a big week-end
 
My uncle works for Zynga (and has since it was a 'startup') - so he had enough pull to let them work from home in BC. They were trying to ship him to SF
but he told me there are a tonne of developer positions out there - but also a tonne of developers
 
2:39 PM
They can ship me to SF.
 
he has a wife and a newborn. didn't want to uproot the fam.
 
Yes I Know it's why I MUST do my homeworks and finish my little projects
 
@FlorianMargaine 1 hour, 2 hours to munich
and i've never been at the oktober-fest
 
@FlorianMargaine I can get to Munich in several days by foot
 
@dievardump while there: sooke potholes, butchart gardens, Long beach (Vancouver) - all must see's
 
hehe
 
@dievardump also ... old growth forest on vancouver island - amazing to see and walk around in
 
i prefer our beer over that filthy stuff they drink in bavaria
 
I prefer Canadian beer to all others. Polish beer is alright on occasion
American beer sucks :(
 
And Skiing
In November
 
2:43 PM
american beer = water
 
Czech beer is pretty good too
 
Outside beer in America = veeeeery expensive
 
I don't like too skunky of a beer.
@dievardump i know :( i'm going for a week..... I'll have to buy my canadian beer in the imports section :<
 
@FlorianMargaine you sometimes can find Kronenbourg (really...) more expensive than good Belgium beer
 
2:44 PM
Yes
"French beer"
So, expensive
 
oh, really -_-
 
It still better than some beers we can find here, but Canadians have some good beers too
 
when you see the 30 beer pack at 7€ of kro
how much is it over there?
 
I never saw 30 Kro beer
They are only in bars
You have Heineken (which is not French) for like 25dollars the 12
 
Grolsch (dutch) and Zywiec (Polish) are both outstanding beers
 
2:46 PM
wow
 
Leffe is like 18$ the 6
Maybe a little less
 
I'm not going to canada
:D
 
Alcool is expensive
 
in Canada (ontario) i'm paying about $2 a can (24oz) at the beer store or $30/24 for the cheap bottles... closer to $45/24 for anything good.
 
but everything else
@FlorianMargaine seriously except Alcool and poor chicken quality, I have a better life than in France
much better
 
2:49 PM
k :)
@rlemon oz = ?
 
fluid ounce
 
googling...
 
29.5735 ml === 1 fl oz
 
alcohol **
 
it's an imperial thing.
 
2:50 PM
@FlorianMargaine yes, here the official system is the metric one... BUT they keep speaking in imperial
 
dudes respect the worlds best invention .
 
I can't remember how many ml is in the can but I do remember it perfectly fits in my 24oz beer glass :)
 
thanks google :-)
 
@Abhishek I respected it, in French
 
@FlorianMargaine hehe so yea 700ml
 
2:51 PM
@Abhishek in french, alcohol is written "alcool"
 
its spelled it as alcool ?
 
$2 for 700ml of beer
 
wow intresting
$2 for 700ml ?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
3.5ml/1cent
 
Yes and when I was writing "Alcohol" it reminds me the software, so I wasn't sure anymore.
 
2:51 PM
i pay like $1 for same :-$ cheap indian beer
 
$2 for 70cl is ok in a bar
 
@Abhishek this is good quality cool 5% canadian beer.
 
@FlorianMargaine LOL
We're not in Europe
 
it sounds even cheap
 
:-D
 
2:52 PM
@FlorianMargaine ohh in a bar i'm paying like $6 for the same beer
 
8$ here
(in Montreal)
 
which is why canada is a nation of "pre drink" ers
 
Tip not included of course
 
@dievardump in Toronto it's like 8/9 = sporting events you get 300ml for $8
 
2:53 PM
I solved raynos's ancient question \o stackoverflow.com/questions/7933344/…
 
in canada.... in the states.... I got 1L of beer for $1.50 at a nascar event
 
oh nascar...
I didnt think Canadians were into nascar
 
@Esailija gratz
nice one
 
My mom is... she purchased the tickets for me her and my bro - I kinda had to go after she told me how much they cost her
but my god was beer ever cheap at the event. seriously, cheaper than the water they were selling
1L of beer was 1.50, 350ml of water was $3
 
Same at some Festival here. BEer is expensive, but cheaper than water bottle
 
2:56 PM
yep, it's freaking crazy, and then they run out of beer
 
@Loktar also my mom is only into it since her american boyfriend :P she introduced him to Dancing with the Stars and Hockey, he introduced her to NASCAR, INDY, and sports betting.
 
Sure he will do some money
 
hah nice
 
Dancing with the Stars
O.M.G
 
2:58 PM
lol
 

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