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19:00
Hello everyone!
Welcome to the third Android Book Club.
Should we wait for more people to join in?
let's wait 10 mins
if nobody enters, we start
I just tweet about it
Thanks. That is something I've planed to do for two weeks and failed!
You obviously tweeted about it yes. :D
19:07
Now I know why I should get some followers.
Oh right, I forgot about the androiddev hash tag. -.-
:)
ok, should we get started
Leo
Leo
i am having trouble getting a scollview to scroll from code, works fine if i swipe with my finger but doesnt work if i do scrollTo
@Leo Lets get that sorted after the event.
Welcome to the Android Book Club everyone.
@OctavianDamiean: have you read any of the books you ordered? :)
19:11
For the newcomers. This event isn't solely about Android Book but about Android and Programming related books, blogs, tutorials and whatever other helpful resource you know.
It is about sharing those resources and presenting them in a few lines.
@Macarse I'm almost through one, which is the first and only book I can talk about for today.
I'll start off with that book then.
sure
oh, you finished Paul's book.
how was it?
It is amazing!
wow, I wasn't expecting that.
19:14
I wish it would be a mandatory read for every programmer on the planet!
I was basically nodding on almost every paragraph.
give me an example of something you said: oh. I didn't know that.
Ok. Chapter 5 for example.
Reflect.
It is about How a bug ever happened. How the software ever worked with that bug and about measured on how to make sure that bug never returns.
I was pretty surprised that I didn't think of that myself.
It is a high level description on how to tackle software issues.
With lots of real life stories.
you finished quite quickly
Stories that sounds quite familiar and thus make it quite funny to read too.
is it short?
19:18
It is about 200 and something pages.
bah, how fast did it reach your house?
Worth every buck.
I've ordered it on Friday last week and it reached on Tuesday.
Of course you can use that book as some kind of reference.
nice
At the end of every chapter there is a short summary, kinda like a checklist.
I guess I will ask a friend in america to buy it for me.
19:20
It is worth it, do it! :)
And thanks for linking me to it last week.
hehe, np
Thats it from my part for now.
@OctavianDamiean: The author worked with me in Swiftkey
Does any of you have some interesting book or blog to share?
he is still working there.
19:21
@Macarse Yea I remember that. :)
cool
ok, my contribution is more technical.
Ah yes. Tell us.
Well I actually research how the android view tree works
What RomainGuy tells there is that if we have an opaque view
and it takes the whole screen
use a special attribute in the manifest to avoid the framework drawing an additional background.
apart from that I have been writing my book.
not much reading :(
Oh yea. Is in a stage where you can/may tell us something about it?
yep
it will have small tips/hacks like the one I just posted
I am suppose to do 1-2 pages per hack
I already write 7/100
Very slow progress :(
19:26
So it is kinda like the O'Reilly Cookbooks?
not completely sure. Never read an o'reilly coockbook.
and my publisher is manning :)
Alright. Those books I was referring to are practical books. They solve common problems.
Cool. I can't wait to actually get to read your book! :)
it should enter in review when I reach the 100 pages.
manning offers something called MEAP
ever heard of it?
19:30
Heard yes, I should have a book from Manning.
Anyone else?
so that where I am this week.
Thanks for sharing. :)
thank you!
@Santiago Do you have anything to share?
no, i don't code for android
just for java
I 'm interesting to start developing apps for android
which book do you recomend?
19:35
That is perfectly fine too. If you know a good book on Java and want to share it with us go ahead.

Android Book Club June 17

Jun 17 at 19:09, 45 minutes total – 77 messages, 3 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked Jun 17 at 21:28 by Octavian Damiean

@OctavianDamiean: how to link him to old book clubs logs?

Android Book Club - June 25

Jun 24 at 19:04, 1 hour 45 minutes total – 200 messages, 7 users, 1 star

Bookmarked Jun 25 at 4:21 by Sathya

They are there. ;)
thanks :)
Thanks :)
In those bookmarked conversations you'll find some very good book recommendations.
Especially in the first one if you are looking for Android books.
19:37
thanks octavian... about java books, last month I read this one:
Oh yes, Bill told us a bit about it last week.
How did you like it?
for me was an excellent book
to understand all the threading things
:P
Concurrency is a tough topic, if not the toughest.
yep
I hope this changes with scala ;)
Scala another thing that I have to investigate
19:40
Yes, indeed. That is a nice language.
Do you have any book recommendations for Scala?
I am reading while I travel home
but I am just reading and not coding
Is is a good beginner book?
I mean is it easy to follow the author?
yep. totally.
I read that Scala is problematic when it comes to books because there are authors that overdo it with the code shortening and making it too compact so that newcomers can get frustrated.
Anyone else?
I don't feel that but I am really feeling the lack of time to sit to code it.
19:46
I see. I know what you mean. :)
I will not learn until I start practicing :)
Thats true
c'est fini :)
how often gather to talk about books?
19:47
I think we're through for today.
That is something I'm still trying to figure out. It was planned as a weekly event.
Maybe I should make it every two weeks.
Or every month even.
always the same room?
ok, is a good excercise
:)
The problem is that people, including me tend to not have that much new to share every week.
Leo
Leo
@OctavianDamiean figured out my issue btw
19:49
@OctavianDamiean: we should do something with the questions not being answered.
Oh yes.
Maybe I should settle a meeting or two and advertise it?
call it office hours
or whatever
That is the next point I have to improve on. Advertising the events.
yep, you suck :)
I know. I suck at being social. :(
Ah damn!
I forgot that I wanted to have an etherpad setup for this event.
fails
19:52
etherpad? what is that?
wow is like gdoc
yep
but it feels more public
It is quite a useful tool. It will be very helpful for the Android tag meeting.
yes you don't need a gmail's account
19:56
Well it features tons of other useful features.
You can go back in time with a slider and watch the whole document build up like you'd been there while it was created and more.
Alrighty. Thanks to everyone for showing up!
I had hoped for more but without advertisement that won't work obviously.
yep, i discover this for twitter :P
It might very well be that I switch this event to two times a month.
bye!!
Bye. Time to get on the next book.
@Santiago: are you working? studying?
20:10
Oh wow, Hello Mark!
@CommonsWare: hiyas.
thank you, Mysterious Room Owner!
You can talk now.
ah, you're the owner -- thanks again!
We both are. ;)
20:11
@CommonsWare: you didn't get into g+ yet?
I wasn't sure what the "Android Book Club" link was, and I saw it on Macarse's tweet, so I clicked over
I search for you this morning.
I'm not a big social network guy
and I recently got burned by Google services
It is very nice to have you in here!
hence, I'm not exactly rushing to G+
20:12
Oh, burned in what way?
@CommonsWare: Reto Meier mentioned to start doing office hours using the new chat enginee.
@Octavian: some issues decoupling a Apps for Business account and my original Google account, messed things up
bah, it was actually an idea.
@Macarse: office hours in this room?
or back on the IRC channel?
@CommonsWare: in g+
20:13
ah
using Hangout?
exactly
That could be quite interesting.
it's limited to 10ppl thought
it could be quite scary, if video chat is on, and people aren't wearing pants
3
:-)
20:14
Hah, indeed.
Didn't think about that.
everyone codes naked, reto knows that (?)
actually, it'd be awesome if Google restarted the office hours
I hope it works out
Hold on, we ain't talking about your CommonsWare office hours?
@OctavianDamiean: nope. google's ones.
20:18
It wouldn't hurt to make this chan's office hours
yeah, I'm not a big "hang out in the chat room all the time" type of guy, but if you organized a regular time, and I'm available, I could try to be around then to help
Just so you know that this Book Club event is about. I want the Android tag SO users to talk about what books, blogs and other resources they find helpful.
@CommonsWare: you should be here in the next Book Club to promote your book.
Today I promote mine :)
That would be wicked!

Android Book Club June 17

Jun 17 at 19:09, 45 minutes total – 77 messages, 3 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked Jun 17 at 21:28 by Octavian Damiean

I already did in the first session but I'd rock if you do of course. :)
I can if you want
is there some sort of schedule for these?
I got a google calendar
somehow
I'm planing to make this event a two times a month event.
Right now it is every week, which is too frequent.
yeah, you'll run out of books :-)
Already happened. :p
hehe
20:23
anyway, after you have the new schedule worked out, let me know
Fridays at 4pm Eastern is hit-or-miss for me, depending on whether I'm on the road
@OctavianDamiean: let's try an office hour next Friday to see how much ppl we can get
Yes a field test with advertisement. That is a good idea.
so questions only with link and 2 days old min?
20:27
I didn't get you.
it would be a nice way to close down old questions
if you want the ppl of the office hours to answer questions
you as an user should provide
the so link
and the question should be 2 days old
Oh I see.
Yes
minimun
Right, time to get on my next book. I'll be online tomorrow if you want to help me plan that event.
what are you going to read now?
20:32
Code Complete. I know, don't tell anyone that I didn't read it already.
what's scary is how long ago I read that
I think I had more hair then
definitely worth reading
out of curiosity, is the chat site interpreting an Amazon URL to create that blurb, or are you pasting that in from somewhere?
20:34
It does that automagically.
It is called one-boxing.
pretty slick
Works for questions and answers as well.
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Q: What Android 3rd-party libraries are there?

Octavian DamieanI'd like to gather a list of 3rd-party libraries for Android. Since there is no collection of libraries for Android I thought it might a good idea to create one. I'm only interested in libraries you have experience with and know that are working well especially [and|or] exclusively on Android. I...

that's a little less surprising, I suppose, since it's their own service
still slick
Oh and with Gists
8
A: What links and sites are handled specially in chat?

Juha SyrjäläThe current list of integrated (we call this onebox, or oneboxing, ala search engines) sites is: Stack Exchange sites: Questions / Answers / Users Stack Exchange Chat: Messages / Rooms / Bookmarked conversations Area 51 proposals Posts from the Stack Exchange blog and the Server Fault blog Amaz...

Thats the whole list of supported sites.
twitts?
Android Book Club starting in 10 mins @ http://bit.ly/lDRiWG #stackoverflow #androiddev
woa. nice.
20:38
@mainerror, Graz - Austria
Ubuntu enthusiast and Android developer
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ok guys, I am going home.
enjoy
see ya!
I'm leaving too. Was a pleasure chatting with you guys.
likewise

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