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9:00 PM
didn't read what you described I've just read the code
so that's basically a get
> Returns the value corresponding to the given key, or null if such a key is not present in the map.
this is the way
the only way
 
Enemy of the State is still one of my most favorite movies
Just watched it again for the 5th time or something
 
hmm I don't remember it
mwb my man
what do you use for your backend?
 
9:19 PM
REST in php scripts
 
so php
hm
 
yes but it's not exactly full REST yet since the commands still go by _POST['action'] values
 
I need something that eliminates boilerplate code
 
boilerplate code never gets 'eliminated' it just gets wrapped in libraries
 
well ya
 
9:21 PM
like the EU 'eliminating' our CO2 reduction, we simply shift our production to Asian countries more
for us as EU it seems like a lot less, but in the background it's still there ofc
 
I mean I just want to get started with my endpoints and stuff
 
I always prefer the boilerplate approach first to see as much as possible what is going on
and then optimalize it
but then again im stubborn and a bit autistic in this, so without personal opinion I would use postgress with GraphQL then
 
but it's taking up time
 
try postgress with GrapQL, works like a charm
Or firebase, if you want full analytics and register/login process done for you
 
gotta make up my mind
I wanna make an MVP
but the think is I gotta start with the backend in mind somehow
 
9:25 PM
But FireBase/Firestore works with documents rather than SQL related datatables and well... you gotta like it
 
how I think the system involves how I develop the mobile app
 
"the system" ?
 
yes
I wanna build a solution for reservations
a scheduling system
gym/dentists etc
 
for hobby or selling purposes?
 
$$$
xD
I got money on me mind
 
9:30 PM
in my country I know already 3 start ups who are realizing the exact same thing
 
are they opensource?
xD
 
Nooohoo
xD
But I mean to keep you motivated along the process, set the right contacts/marketing plan
without having anybody else overriding you
this is why I was able to talk about my app, I have set the connections first before I spilled some beans
 
I want to take the "in-business" start-up approach
 
what is that
 
i don't remember the real term but
 
9:32 PM
Btw I can already buy my exact same phone in germany for 520
 
I could develop it and if the company likes it they can help with marketing/sales etc
 
But I need a 100 profit, so my buying contact needs to higher his bidding and my selling contact needs to go down in his price. It's kinda fun
 
that's why I wanna build an mvp
stonks
 
@grrigore get the company first, have their interest
 
gotta show something
 
9:34 PM
it will help in motivation and you will have to have it done
@grrigore a presentation, a talk
 
yes but still I have to show up with something
 
you do not even need the product, you need the talk. Walk into for example small business barbershop and tell them about your product. Get them enthousiastic and be their partner for the software you can provide
hit for smaller business, they usually dont have the budget for huge packages of software or have a dated website etc
now if you develop for them, and it's finished you will have the money and you can then expand to bigger businesses
they will mention your work, there is some marketing done for you
 
I've wanted to build a launch page
but the domain I want is taken
:(
 
well I dk what to do about that
 
wait for it to expire xD
 
9:38 PM
right
 
hopefully
 
Tim
innit
 
yoo
idk life's hard
 
a lot less when you drive Ford
I dk
 
:D
 
9:52 PM
damn germans, he has the phone listed for 530 he says his final offer is 525. With package costs I'll have the phone at my house for 540 and have 45 euro profit lol. If he accepts 500 the deal is done for both sides
 
did you ever get your car out of the shop, speaking of fords?
 
imma do it i'll build the mobile app and ask for a presentation
 
@ballBreaker the thunderbird?
I can drive it, but optically there is some stuff to do still but it's detail kind of stuff
I try to do as much as possible myself, today I've been working the whole day on it
 
right on man!
yeah idk i just remember you saying it was in the shop
 
LOL the mi 10 ultra I wanted to buy just got sold to somebody else
what are the odds
 
10:00 PM
probably high
just keep your new phone and chill
 
+1
 
do you really want someone's poo particle phone that they've been taking in the bathroom with them to take massive shits with for $100 when you have a brand new version of the same phone
 
ahaha
xD
 
@ballBreaker lol mine is second hand too
I haven't bought an actual new phone since 2010
 
@ballBreaker now this is marketing
 
10:05 PM
@MwBakker I think you mean 2021
haha or are you talking about the 'new' one you have now is also used
 
the reason I never bought a new phone first was because qwerty slider phones weren't sold after ~2010 anylonger in my country
So I sometimes even had to get them from the US, flash them to have our bandwith etc etc the whole mess
 
jesus
 
But then I realized new phones are way overpriced, one year they drop half their value so even when I had no other choice but candybar bs phones I kept on with it
 
anyway
see you guys
gotta get some sleep
 
me too
good night grrig
 
10:07 PM
good night guys have fun
 
@ballBreaker yep, however it's new to me
 
ahah nice, yeah the problem with that though is that phones have short life spans
 
so do I
 
cars depreciate meaninglessly, but phones actually make sense
that phone is worth half the price because it's going to last half as long
on average I would say at least
 
I depreciate meaninglessly too, it's market: I don't control that
but I do benefit from it but making the best of it
 
10:09 PM
right, I'm just saying you could buy it new and keep it for 2 years instead of buying it used and keeping it one year, it ends up being the sme amount of money
and 100% less headache
but I also get it
not knocking buying second hand in general but I find phones not to be worth it personally
 
@ballBreaker that is matter of public opinion: the battery dies or bloatware eats the phone. Hardware speaking most people don't even need phones newer than 2012. Same with laptops. But hype and battery dying is the main cause for people to switch to newer stuff
 
but everyone's needs are different
 
cya o/
 
laptops seem to last a bit longer thankfully, especially if you maintian the fans
cya griggs!
 
@ballBreaker I keep it 2 years at least, unless stolen ofc
@ballBreaker general public doesn't care: they just want thinner stuff but most people don't need the extra's coming with a newer model if the device is maintained well
 
10:11 PM
yeah most people treat their stuff liek garbage tho
I'm not sayin buy the newer model either
my phone is like 300 euros
brand new
I'm just saying that used phones are a bad investment unless you don't have the money for a new phone
 
I don't see why they are a bad investment, give me an example other than ofc risk of possible scam
 
I mean it's definitely a spectrum on when you get the phone
if it's like 2 months old and you get it used it might be fine
 
why wont it be after 2 months
 
I already said because the life on them is so short that you don't end up saving money
 
how is their life short? Battery speaking a 3 year old phone from around this era still does the job quite well
 
10:14 PM
I mean it obviously depends on the price and the person
I just mean on average
 
I know, cause I experienced it. Battery goes through 75% of the day on a 3 year old phone
So I root the thing, debloat it and put hibernation mods on it etc then it goes throughout the day
ofc with my huawei that wasn't possible, after 2 years it still made it easily through the day though
 
yeah everyone has their own experiences with it
 
But having a phone 3 years was only once, I usually switch after 1.5 or 2 years
 
both of mine have been bad
 
most of mine since 2010 have been great
 
10:16 PM
yeah if you only keep the phone for that long then it makes sense
I'd rather spend twice as much and have the phone for twice as long
 
how long do you last with a phone then
 
4 years usually
 
alright fair enough
I spend avg 300 euro on a second hand flagship phone each 2 years, I switch usually because better camera's come out or I don't like switching the battery
 
makes sense
my last phone was a flagship and it made me never want to buy another one
 
if you spend 300 euro on a new phone and last 4 years with it you sure are being more Dutch than me here
 
10:19 PM
lmao xD
 
I can't win from that even going 2nd hand
 
I'm very dutch in that regard, I hold onto things until they disintegrate and then buy the next model
 
but then again I do want some of its newest features due to the camera related improvements
if it wasn't for the camera, I could have sticked with my phone before my huawei
 
haha yeah I'll usually sit there and be like why isnt my phone breaking, I need a new one wtf
yeah that's fair, we have different needs for our phones for sure
I just want average pics
 
I wish cameras were modular so I didnt need the entire phone
but better processors do better image renderings so I need those as well
 
10:22 PM
yeah haha I was going to say buy a camera, they're super modular
but they're also super expensive and usually big
 
@ballBreaker it's also mostly for recording purposes
@ballBreaker the main issue with a camera is that in an abandoned building I can easily break it or lose it. It also requires more time in the building to get the best setting, the setting I aim for is "what you see is what you get" so I want the least adjustments and ironically a phone does this quite well. Cause I have been in buildings that were shot with camera's that had so much editing the whole building in real life was a let down
 
@MwBakker makes a lot of sense
alright im gonna skidaddle, my day ended a lil bit ago and I need to do some yoga
have a good night man!
 
Alright good night
 
yeah phone sounds like your best bet, or a gopro of a sorts
not sure of the image quality of them though
in dark settings
o/
 
go pro is something to consider, but the walking with the mobile kind of filming makes the whole thing realisticly eary
eery?
eary?
creepy*
@ballBreaker you can see in my albums how they do
anyway good night
sleep well nederbro
dream about vacation here
 
Tim
10:58 PM
@ballBreaker a loading screen quote "The end times are nigh - Harrim" XD
 

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