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12:05 AM
Now I'm forced to see those chorizos every single time I open the maps app 😭
I got to hide the chorizos!
 
Hey :D
 
 
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6:23 AM
o/
 
7:04 AM
@RaymondArteaga lmao
 
7:32 AM
o/
 
 
1 hour later…
8:32 AM
@Code-Apprentice these are not the real ones
only the Dutch can produce those
 
fake news
 
Tim
9:08 AM
\o
 
o/
 
9:20 AM
\o
 
@CrabsStew ??
@ballBreaker playing games for 5 days just kicked off my daily routine of hard labor to learn android development, it took another 2 days to get back into rythm, colossal waste of precious time
 
9:33 AM
Flutterrrrr
 
@MwBakker nooo
 
The future Flutter is bright
 
Tim
because it's on fire
 
yep
 
Tim
like burning down
 
9:45 AM
like in a non positive manner XD
 
@Tim anything but, Google is heavily investing in it and the community grows
 
@MwBakker i still believe kotlin has a lot more potential than dart
jetbrains added new desktop backend for jetpack compose in like couple of months
 
@IvanMilisavljevic fun mostKotlinStatementsHaveWeirdSyntaxThatWantsToBeJavascript()
 
I had read a speculative article about Fuschia (which makes Dart a first class citizen?) saying that it was initiated mainly to keep some highly valuable senior engineers in the team, not necessarily with a business vision behind
 
i belive its going to be super easy to add ios support as well, especially with swift ui
 
9:56 AM
going to be vs already up and running in Flutter
 
true, but there is a lot more apps written in kotlin than flutter
once you migrate to compose adding ios support should be trivial
 
yes, there are also a lot of people using Apple
Doesn't mean Apple is more than a brand-bound business model with some cool 'photo album' apps
ok that was maybe too much
I just really like Flutter for how it formed my app so far
 
right, i believe it makes sense for you
 
Can you fix google api exception 10 without making a developer account?
 
@SafdarFaisal no
 
10:02 AM
damn, that's premium support Ivan
 
@IvanMilisavljevic So paying the 25$ is the only way?
 
exception 10 is a developer error, whats the service yorue trying to use?
@Mehdi like always ;)
 
@IvanMilisavljevic firebase google sign in
@Mehdi It's near instant :D
 
exception 10 is a developer error indicating you didn't set your app correctly, i would probably check sign in keys on the firebase console
 
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10:04 AM
on the flutter again, for me its hard to switch to a completely new language constructs
also i need a language with a large community, good support for tooling etc
but also thats tightly coupled with things i do on my day to day job
 
@IvanMilisavljevic I thought the exact same, also because I am quite autistic in best practises etc so I needed structure
 
@IvanMilisavljevic An answer that indicated a fix had to link firebase console SHA-1 keys and Developer console SHA-1 keys.. It's just that I don't have the money to spend on making an account and I wanted to know if there was any workaround. I've started to learn coding on flutter and this was my first foray into firebase.
 
@SafdarFaisal you dont have to add your release signing keys
you can generate those for local builds
run ./gradlew signingReport
 
@IvanMilisavljevic Fortunatly the community is large enough for me to retrieve these best practices and solve the cases I run into so far. Syntax may differ but the overall logical basics always remain the same for OOP imo
 
and also I believe having a single app for ios and android is wrong, but that's also tightly coupled with stuff i do
one more thing, flutter gained a lot of traction in last couple of years, but its google
they are known for killing off products they think have no future
 
10:10 AM
So that possibility goes just as well for Kotlin
 
Kotlin is owned by Jetbrains
and its used on many different platforms besides android
 
Google is not involved?
 
Not much
They do stuff that's specific to android
So as long android runs on JVM, you will be able to write your apps in kotlin
 
But if Google pulls the plug on either of these frameworks, things may go south for each of them I suppose
What was the last large scale project like Flutter Google pulled the plug at?
 
It makes no sense of google pulling the plug on JVM
Go Lang is a language owned by Google
 
Tim
10:15 AM
@MwBakker killedbygoogle.com take your pick
angularjs probably the biggest recent one
 
Besides from AngularJS (Duh, VueJS is here) I do not see a comparable sized framework like Flutter they killed
 
what????? AngularJS will be out?Damn
Huge number of companies use
angularJS
 
@MwBakker there was google search appliance, many companies relied on it
 
Many programmers carrier is based on
Angular JS
 
relax, Angular JS is Angular 1
 
10:18 AM
@Mehdi sure, but not a framework like Angular or Flutter
 
Tim
you shouldn't only compare frameworks
 
meow meow, when will human stop duplicating and deprecating software framework each other
but whatever, human technology will eventually hit in saturation stage and hard to develop, if human continues built technology based on an economic basis
 
@MwBakker YOLO
 
yo
 
@Tim "they didn't ever pull large frameworks down so this still might happen to Flutter because you like databinding therefor I contradict you" this isn't my first rodeo
 
10:30 AM
can you please stop using processor power for a virtually endless currency
 
@Tim fuck that is a long list
@MwBakker databinding is garbage
 
@IvanMilisavljevic did you print bitmaps?
 
while google is pushing databinding which puts everything into xml, simultaneously they are developing compose that puts everything back into code even layout
 
because they are not
 
Tim
don't forget in between they also pushing viewbinding
 
10:34 AM
jetbrains is doing afaik
whatever i m tired
 
@grrigore not really, il add support for bitmaps later on
have to sort out that bl connection first
 
sure, just wanted to know one printer prints ok while the other cuts the image height somehow..
 
@grrigore im working with a single printer so im not sure
 
so did I
so Ivan you might have height problems with bitmaps
 
10:52 AM
@Tim kinda a subset of db, but also useful unlike db
 
@grrigore roger, thanks for the heads up
 
I guess..
 
11:10 AM
so dumb question
no more
 
@CrabsStew I haven't ever seen them "pushing it" the idea of databinding for me came from working with C# and WPF. I tried performing MVVM architecture on Android but the libraries weren't ready and I had to deal with very odd debug errors
But as stubborn as I am, I stick to it (which costed me half a year extra school due to an unfinished product) but despite that I still like the idea behind databinding
 
Tim
11:45 AM
grrrrr noooooooo you can't like something I don't like!!
 
@Tim why? :(
tim do you listen to khalid?
 
Tim
what is khalid
 
artist, he's pretty good. I like him.
 
Khalid Donnel Robinson (born February 11, 1998) is an American singer-songwriter. He is signed to Right Hand Music Group and RCA Records. In March 2017, Khalid released his debut studio album, American Teen, the album spawned the US top-20 singles, "Location" and “Young Dumb & Broke”, and was later certified double platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA). Later that year he was featured on Logic’s US top-ten single, “1-800-273-8255”, with Alessia Cara, which earned him a Grammy Award for Song of the Year nomination. The following year Khalid released the number one pop...
 
Tim
any songs I know?
 
11:48 AM
american teen album is really good
young dumb and broke?
maybe
 
Tim
nope
doesn't seem to be something I'd enjoy
 
American Teen and 8TEEN are my fav
 
@Tim whyyyyyyyy
me like
you should give it a try
 
Tim
don't tell me what to do
 
lol
tell him what to do grrrrr
 
11:59 AM
tell me how to generate a white bitmap tim
 
by generating one
 
yea..
 
@grrigore he listens exclusively to Deutsche Schlager
He plays Pariser Tango every thursday morning
 
hmm
 
My gf was helping her dad restoring a Ford Capri this morning
I have never been more in love lol
 
12:13 PM
haha
timmy g don't hate me
i'll never tell you what to do
 
@MwBakker XD
don't forget to carefully and extensively wash your rice before using, and to cook it into clean mineral water healthline.com/nutrition/arsenic-in-rice
scroll to the "How to Reduce Arsenic in Rice" for recommendations
 
Tim
403
 
in response to which order?
 
mine :(
 
if I were you, I'd beg him for forgiveness, but that's just me
 
12:22 PM
time will take care of it
 
tim is the usual cruel self
 
Tim
@Mehdi the website
 
ah, probably temporary error, as for the cookies wall, you could open it on a private browser window and accept all cookies then close it
 
12:41 PM
@Mehdi doesn't cooking kill most of the potential dangers?
 
unfortunately no, arsenic is not a germ or something, it's a chemical element
 
great, so now my Chicken Tonight has become a train of paranoid thoughts
 
well, thorough washing before cooking is also a good idea, that way the insecticides and pesticides get washed away
 
Tim
that's not true it's just eastern propaganda
 
hahaha
 
12:45 PM
@Mehdi I appreciate all the concerns and care though sometimes it feels like walking on a an island with pure white sand, hellblue sea and palmtrees then in the distance you walk up to me and tell me "look, a mile across overthere a dog just shat: careful"
 
XD
sometimes I wish I just had an app that chooses the brands and ingredients to buy for me, and only look for the choice justification if I'm curious
something like: what do you feel like eating? rice with salmon and shrimps - eeeh, can't you do without it? - sure / no - take these brands / consider this recipe instead
 
Tim
sounds like that would get really annothing after it disagrees with you once or twice
 
true, I'd expect most people to hit "no" most of the time and try to get the least harmful brand instead of switching recipe
 
Tim
monday: yes!
tuesday: I know I should, but nah
wednesday: no
thursday: stop judging me
friday: fuck off, uninstall
2
 
story of every ai
 
12:57 PM
hahaha
 
@Tim what did you say about @RaghavSood again?
 
Tim
Aug 8 '19 at 14:16, by Tim Castelijns
is raghav the little guy?
 
yes
 
Tim
@MwBakker not sure really, I don't miss it at all. Maybe because that job (one in particular) was during my golden years where I had money from working but not responsibilities from adulthood
 
how much you saved?
thousands of $$$$$$
 
Tim
1:10 PM
> had money
 
well i guess gone in your nice villa
look on the bright side you have a villa now
 
Tim
true
 
@MwBakker did you ever consider writing a novel, I bet it will be top seller
 
Tim

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1:25 PM
I was watching the movie Anna yesterday, I threw my mobile out of anger and didn't bother to watch till end
 
poor mobile
 
Tim
can understand. Helen mirren is quite annoying
 
@Mehdi this is called "marriage"
 
Tim
xD
 
@Tim something tells me you are 2m tall or such
 
Tim
1:32 PM
aren't we both? I mean we are dutch
 
n...no I am not cries in less cold at the ground
@PayelSenapati I think I will be the first banned by Oprah seller
 
mwb looks like 1.6m max
 
@MwBakker it's a western hypocrite director making fun out of Russia
 
@CrabsStew how can you judge that by looking at someone's face I wonder
 
@MwBakker hahahaha
 
Tim
1:43 PM
@MwBakker he probably just asked the royal court's people height estimator
 
@Tim hahaha I had completely forgot about this one XD
 
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Afternoon Everyone!!!!!! :D
 
Tim
wassuupp w0mpy
 
day 3 of the web development course
i think today is CSS day
 
@MwBakker haha its an estimate lol
 
Tim
1:46 PM
called it
 
nice every developer nightmare CSS
when is php day?
 
Tim
banned for asking
 
this is week 4 of me working in php
 
never
 
laaaaater in the course
 
1:47 PM
I'm already redirected to shrink-temple lol
 
when we do the server side of stuff
 
@MwBakker I'm sorry, I have to ask, are you serious?
 
@CrabsStew I remember my last height measurement result: 20cm 1.77m
 
20 cm sounds too big
 
XD
 
1:48 PM
bunch of giants
 
shouldn't haven't corrected it Mwb
 
more like short dutch i think
 
bring me a ladder!!
3
 
lmao womp
 
Tim
@MwBakker not bad. I used to be 1.85 but I am old I guess because already shrunk a bit to 1.82
 
1:49 PM
@CrabsStew I always tell people I'm half Spanish
@Tim is that what coding does to a human?
 
Tim
hang on let me grab my reading glasses
3
 
xD
 
zooms google chrome at 250% ah... now i see
 
@Mehdi I am, bunch of stuff also consists SQL
 
guess you don't like this room that much..
sql is fine, php is not
 
2:03 PM
I know
it's legacy code but they still use that framework live
so it needs to be maintained untill all components are being switched 1 by 1
 
2:15 PM
 
Tim
> As an avid reader of their kipper packaging
xD
 
2:32 PM
yes XD
> Thank you. Speaking on behalf fan of all the avid readers of kipper packaging, this has been a very upsetting experience for us all but we really appreciate you putting this right and we look forward to reading more of your packaging in the future 👍💕
 
xD
 
goed to show once more: not all heroes wear capes
 
3:15 PM
oh wow
tall dutch boys in here
I am 1.87m
 
Tim
actually I made a typo, I'm 1.88m
 
@ballBreaker Weren't you 6ft?
 
6'2 amigo
 
BB you get taller everytime this topic gets discussed
 
XD
 
3:16 PM
hahahahaha noooooo
 
still come home, Nederbro
 
I swear I've said 6'2 each time bahaha
 
Tim
if only there was a way we could verify
 
you are lucky I am horrible at looking up quotes in transcript (how do I even quote)
 
hopefully one of you is better at searching the chat than me
looks at tim
 
Tim
3:19 PM
here bb just said he was like 6ft tall
 
xD
 
hahahah
find some more
my height is a spectrum
I'll have to get proof one of these days
 
"one of these days"
 
I'd have to get someone to measure and take a picture
lol
 
you could maybe send us a photo of your mugshot or something
 
3:25 PM
oh wow
I wonder if that exists still
that would definitely do the trick
 
Tim
yeah yeah that would be cool if you found it, would be interesting to see
 
haha it would be, from highschool though and I had to go through a process to get police to delete my fingerprints and mugshot so it's likely gone
 
Tim
surely your mom kept a copy
 
hahahaha
we never were given a copy unfortuntely
I wonder if I've shrunk as well
 
another option I do not recommend at all is to get arrested another time
 
3:28 PM
let me try to measure my height on a door frame
I'm curious now
 
bb is just 5foot 6 inch in freedom units xD
 
gotta poo first though as to free up space
 
ahhh.... ballsmasher/ ballpuncher
Question: what is the minimum height required to smash a ball in a single kick?
 
Hello, Android!
 
Tim
\o
 
3:36 PM
okay here is my definitive height measured with no cheating: 184.5 cm
to settle the record once and for all
 
anyone can say "with no cheating" on the Internet
and what's that in FU?
 
hey now I even pooped to get the extra height out
 
Tim
5 mins ago he was 187cm, it's not looking good
 
what's this talk of "cm"?
 
what tim said
 
3:38 PM
someone make a bot that converts all measurements to FU
 
looks like 6'1 CA
 
@Code-Apprentice cant help for 16th century folks
 
I always thought I was inbetween 6'1 and 6'2
so just rounded to 6'2 but I like this cm more
more accurate
 
@ballBreaker thanks
 
in my defese last time I measured myself was like 7-8 years ago lol
 
Tim
3:39 PM
plot a graph and looks like you will be about 150cm in 30 years
 
hahaha
 
xD
 
probably will be the hunch back of notre dame by that time with all these video games I play
call me quasimoto
anyone here ever play Hunt: Showdown?
got into that game the past week, is pretty crazy
 
ugg...someone's slacking on creating tags for betas and releases.
 
nice
 
3:43 PM
D:
 
Tim
no I'm busy with ROCK AND STONE
 
nice tim
my friends got bored of that game too fast
 
rock and stone?
 
Deeprock Galactic
 
oooh
i've seen some streams
 
3:44 PM
it's pretty great
 
I'm still playing SC2
 
hmm
 
who needs these new fangled video games. Play the classics!
 
one of these days i'll go on a Diablo 3 binge
'cause a new season started and they changed stuff from the companions :O
 
Tim
I've never played the diablo games
 
3:46 PM
oh really tim? 2 was a masterpiece
 
Tim
I saw a remaster (?) of the 2nd one was in closed alpha recently
 
My manager said that several employees wondered why I have a baby doll stuck in my sunroof, I guess I'm making the right impression
 
3 is quite garbage im not going to lie
sorry wompy
 
eh... i like it
 
Tim
Mw tell them your private residence is none of their business
 
3:47 PM
@W0MP3R honestly thats all that matter
I liked it when it came out but then I thought they ruined it with the real money market
 
i feel that 3 is way easier than 2
 
classic activision greed
 
@Tim Ironically that is what I more or less did, so I can keep a mistery around it
 
Tim
ah activision
 
yeah can't really trust any blizzard games anymore, sadly
 
Tim
3:47 PM
Dec 17 '18 at 22:07, by Tim Castelijns
game I used to play a lot got axed and now I can't really play anymore because the queue times went x10, and all the cool streamers left so can't watch it anymore either 🤷‍♂️
 
bleh
what game was that
 
Tim
when activision and blizzard got in bed together and they killed HOTS
 
again nobody mentiones Wreckfest here, which is gaming as it should be: by old school rules of game development
 
damn V_V
yeah that acquisition was a sad day for gaming
 
damn
back to console games
 
3:50 PM
console's even worse imo
at least on PC for games that are kinda bad they usually have good mod support
but yeah kinda screwed either way
@MwBakker it sounds like a wrestling game, but I know it's a car game
THIS YEAR AT WRRRR WRRRRRRRRECKFEST
 
Today, i went to get coffee to the coffee machine and it's one of these super tall where the screen is on the top and i was thiiiiiiis close so get on a chair so i could see the stupid screen >.<
the windows are open, my fingers are starting to freeze
 
Tim
kind of scared to ask how tall you are
 
lol sounds like you need some dutch dna
@Tim nice way to ask how tall you are
 
@W0MP3R hahahah where is this coffee machine located? is it where you're taking your course?
 
@W0MP3R pequenita
 
3:54 PM
yesh
Mar 6 '18 at 9:15, by W0MP3R
@MarkO'Sullivan i'm 156.5cm
 
@ballBreaker some day I hope to join races like that in real life
 
@MwBakker nice way to provide us with an accurate measure of your height :D
 
Tim
at least you can sit in airplanes and busses comfortably :)
 
but i can't put my bag in the spaces above comfortably xD
 
@Tim unless someone who doesn't notice her goes sitting on top by accident
 
Tim
3:56 PM
o.o
 
@Mehdi ?
 
@W0MP3R you should make the tall peasants do the work for you XD
 
'cause i can't reach hahah
 
molt cuqi
 
yeah, i usually ask around for help
 
3:58 PM
@MwBakker racing in real life => jail => mug shot with the accurate height
 
ooooh
 
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