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7:00 PM
I remmeber hearing something about QAnon and the 17th
 
have you heard anything?
 
its a premade pack thingy, first time trying it, usually i make ma own
 
no but I have 95% of that stuff blocked so I'm lagged on hearing stuff these days
 
oh I just figured american politics makes its way into the lives of all 7 billion people so if you didn't hear anything it's safe to say nothing happened
 
hahaha it eventually does, yea
"wow have you heard what retarded thing happened last night? wooow so retarded"
 
7:02 PM
basically
 
haha, I did hear that the russian guy went back to russia
 
I made a wood cutter from disk of a harddisk
 
that's cool!
does it cut wood
 
 
lmao
it's the little one ?
 
7:06 PM
ya xD
 
how did you cut the teeth into it?
 
with a baby cutter
 
U guys talking money?
 
that saw disk doesn't fit on the smaller grinder
and that thing is massive, overpowered and violent
 
hahaha yeah those big saws are cray
what's a "baby cutter"?
I'm imagining some tool used for abortions
 
7:10 PM
> Learned a very relatable term today: “報復性熬夜” (revenge bedtime procrastination), a phenomenon in which people who don't have much control over their daytime life refuse to sleep early in order to regain some sense of freedom during late night hours.
Hello darkness my old friend
 
We have alot of trees they need trimmin every year, wood was piling up and was just turning into dust so i starting using it for heating
 
One of us one of us
 
I think out of everyone in this chat asim, you have the most DIY fun
 
@ballBreaker lmao normal sized grinder
like this one
@ballBreaker yup, today I tried to start my car with 4 18650 battery pack that fits in one hand, car just laughed at me lol
 
lmfao
yeah not surprising
I think it needs like 14volts to start
 
7:14 PM
I had enough voltage, not the amps
if I had like 20 batteries it would have started
 
yeah fair
 
sup @grrigore
 
what kind of amps are needeD? prolly a solid amount eh
oof 400Amps lol
yeah that would be hard from small battry packs
 
@ballBreaker thats just google thingy, normal small cars can start on 100~180ish amp range
 
yeah guess it depends
maybe small cars where you are hehe
 
7:28 PM
most people have honda civics here
I got suzuki swift
 
oh nice
 
actually mehran is the most used one around
 
suzuki's are nice
don't see a lot of themwhere I live
 
what kinda you have around
 
@ballBreaker always
But usual, not something new
 
7:36 PM
@asim tons of SUVs here, and I guess in toronto there are a bunch of cars as well, but mostly Toyota/Subaru/Honda/Ford/GM/BMW/Mercedes/Hyundai .. hmm
@MwBakker hehe thats good
 
I made that high voltage thing I call arc lighter last week
 
is this something you made?
I had an arc lightter for a few years, I loved that thing
it just loaded, hahah that's awesome
 
I liked it so much that I just keep playing with it instead of using it as lighter
 
its funny when it starts trying to arc through the insulation and starts burning there haha
 
I made 3 in total
@ballBreaker It always does, it arcs through everything be it electrical tape or thick wire insulation
thats why had to wind multiple transformers, they eventually kill themselves
 
7:43 PM
haha not the first time you did it, was clean on the wires
yeah fair
my one friend absolutely HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATED the sound my arc lighter made
it drove him insane
 
are you sure it was the lighter and not just you?
 
well I'm still in his life and the lighter is not.. so im not sure
thats hard to say
 
got shocked by it through ground and once I was trying to make probes close together and it went through my one hand to the other through my body, hurts more than 220v
 
he may just be insane now and okay with it
 
maybe he just hated me smoking cigs <3
hahaha
 
7:46 PM
thats what I am currently using it have ptfe plumbers tape insulation
 
haha thats so ghetto looking, that's awesome though is that your new end instead of just using 2 wires
 
I don't get the question, those metal things are just holding the ends of wires so they don't get pulled or lost coz wire is 2x thinner than hair
its just the secondary, primary was winded on top of it
 
ahh nvm I thought they were going to be the new ends that arc'd between
 
8:05 PM
I get it now lol, actual wire is inside of that white tape, around 1400 turns and there is lots of tape every 50 turns
any new movie recommendation I should be pirating?
Is piracy a big thing in countries like uk, usa?
 
big as in popular?
I don't think as big as some countries like China maybe, but it's pretty big with respect to torrents and stuff
 
8:21 PM
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This problem that I spent 2 months and dragged 40-60 people into was also on one of our other applications... but our vendor fixed it on that application 3 years ago and not this other one.
 
Tim
c l a s s i c
 
yeah fuck
for real
This is the third time this has happened with that same developer, and he was my favourite too
Y U DO DIS AMRIT
 
maybe you should ask his boss to give him a salary increase to motivate him
also hi bb, been a while, hope you're doing good :)
 
haha he doesn't work with them anymore I don't think
and hey man!! yeah it's been forever, how are ya?
I'm doin alright ^^
 
I'm good, man. I think I finally found the right work / vacations ratio for me
3 months work -> 1 month vacation
 
8:29 PM
haha yeah that would be perfect
I wish I had 4 months off every year
 
TIL Mehdi wants to be a teacher
 
@Mehdi if you work remote / abroad you already travel
 
Anything that gives me that, Dave XD
@MwBakker the idea of vacationing is to not have to work though :D
 
Idk I'd get bored I think
 
yes, most likely (we can't have everyone in society take 3 months off per year :D)
 
8:34 PM
id be happy with remote work and a 4 day work week
 
You should come to germany, 4 days work weeks are not unusual here
at least in IT
 
I've thought about it, it's a serious consideration if I ever leave my current situation
I've got extended family there on my Mom's side and they have a favorable immigration policy for my career
 
would it help if I told you that everyone speaks english? :D
 
I knew that :D
looked into it out of college
 
oh man my math was off there
 
8:37 PM
not surprised
you only write banking software not like you need good math skills
 
yeah exactly haha
all I need to know how to add is 0s and 1s
 
@DaveS hahaha
 
yeah honestly after this pandemic if I don't get a half-remote-half-in-office deal out of this I'll be straight shook
there is absolutely a zero percent chance I'm going to be okay going back to 5 days in the office
f u c k that
 
I'd be in favor of 2 days in the office
 
yeah I'm thinking 1 or 2
maybe go in tuesday and thursday
that'd be okay
or just wednesday
 
9:08 PM
I learned a new approach on coding
I always wanted to aim for best practise at immediate expense, so I wouldn't 'bump my head' and start over or whatsoever
But I realised I am getting so much more done to first make it work and then worry about if it's efficient or not
 
:)
I think this lesson is an important one to learn
it's a hard one to explain, usually takes experience
 
yeah definitely
although if I'm being perfectly honest, I never had his original approach so it's a lesson I never had to learn
but that was not out of being smart, that was out of sheer laziness
 
I think a lot of juniors get caught up too much in writing perfect code when good code is good enough
optimizing prematurely also applies to your project organization and coding practices
like generalizing something that's only used in one place in the app
 
yeah that makes sense
 
9:32 PM
@DaveS it's a damn relief that will increase much of my productivity
UNTILL I may get into errors that do require a rebuild, then I'll be back to being paranoid on best practise
 
glad you've finally worked through it man
 
I hope I can avoid the paranoia stuff from now on
 
what are you paranoid about?
maybe I can help you work through some of it
 
Oct 8 '19 at 9:52, by Murat Karagöz
dont be weak
Oct 8 '19 at 9:52, by Murat Karagöz
end of discussion
 
haha
be alpha
don't be beta
 
9:39 PM
if anything breaks it's either another dev, a 3rd party integration or user error
it's important emphasize it's never YOUR fault
 
yeah exactly, it's almost always usually the actual reality too
so they'll just believe you
 
and even if it is, it's irrelevant, as my old boss used to say: it's the cost of doing business
 
and if it happens to be something you can fix by editing your code to work with another dev's garbage code, push it quickly and quietly before anyone notices
 
hahaha
 
@ballBreaker about not following best practices and unknowingly making the code inefficient or run unrequired heavy operations
 
9:44 PM
got news for you
 
or have doubled UI layers or such, without knowing about it
 
the whole world runs on mountains of inefficient code
code hasn't been efficient since the apollo program
unless it's a practical bottle neck no one cares
 
so it may seem, but I kinda got obsessive with it
costed me half a year extra on school, I should not have this stuff on the workfield
 
i understand the feeling
 
but working on my own app now have made good mental progressions for me
 
9:45 PM
it will prompt you to write it well the first time
just don't let it paralyze you
 
It did, but fortunatly I am learning to get out of it
 
yeah honestly man, just code that works then work yourself backwards if you have to.. as long as you have a set of principles you mostly adhere to with how you code you won't really run into trouble
I mean, depending which language you use too
 
C# is pretty strict, I told you about the dark vans Microsoft sent
No but all kidding aside, so much code can run unused in the background since devices get faster so people wont even notice the inefficiency
untill you see the unrequired code parts by a re-check
 
Cya, everyone!
 
Bye Mehdi
 
10:03 PM
hahah yeah
unless it's something from scratch and somebody is reviewing every single bit of code added, chances are it's going to be like 33% garbage
 
Started unity. I always find it really frustrating to start new technical things. Most of the tutorials show you the quick and dirty way to do something, just to get started instead of the proper way. Very difficult to find any tutorial that does things "properly". And as a beginner I don't always know if something is the proper way.
Arguably I shouldn't worry about quality and just start writing code but I find that difficult.
Anyway...How y'all doing?
 
Tim
10:33 PM
@MwBakker I think both apple and google are putting heavier restrictions on this each year
 
anyone did anything with kmpp>
I have a gradle plugin applying implementation dependency to the KotlinCompilataion
that dependency itself is multiplatform and everything works as expected
except when i apply that plugin to a multiplatform project commonMain has no dependencies in its graph, all other targets are fine
Also IR is in beta for JVM for peeps who like compiler stuff
 
10:50 PM
@Tim as long as nobody gets shot I am not impressed yet
 
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