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12:04 AM
I'm gonna learn python, then maybe koltin
 
@RaghavSood Not ever after you became sentient
 
@JBis You should learn Go and Rust
No one really learns python
You just Google your way through it when you need it
90% of the time copy pasting arbitrary code will work with 0 changes required
 
What's on your ctrl V now?
 
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12:08 AM
There's actually a lot more hex but it exceeds chat's character limit
 
holy crap that's huge
 
> $0.01 available balance
:(
 
more than what I have
 
12:22 AM
@RaghavSood isn't that every language?
 
Sure, but python is especially conducive to it
 
Are you joking or serious?
 
Serious
With most languages, copy pasting random snippets still requires you to have a vague idea of the language and what you're trying to accomplish
With JS and python, not so much
It'll usually just work anyways
 
ok
But thats only a bad thing if you copy and dont try to understand
not inherently a bad thing
arguably its a good thing
 
I'm not saying it is bad
I'm saying that you should put in proper effort into learning a language where it is required to do well, such as Go or Rust
For Python, when you need to use it, you probably can without spending months actually learning it
 
12:34 AM
Using it != using it well
it can take many months to learn to do it well
but I understand your point
 
Sure, but it's hard to use python badly enough to the point where it disadvantages you
 
maintainability, readability, etc.
 
Still quite hard to get it wrong on those factors - if you are using django or whatever, the starting templates are reasonably well structuresd
For one off script, you won't be building super complex stuff
Now, if you were to go and write a new project at the scale of django or something from scratch, then sure
Either way, just my two cents
You don't have to listen to me, it's alright to make wrong choices
@Ahmad does that all the time
 
hey i listen
i just chose to ignore because of love for docker
 
looks on in disappointment
 
12:41 AM
anyone else have an archive of all their old files and sometimes go through them reminiscing about the past
 
No.
I have backups, but I almost never open them
 
Looking through my 2012-2015 stuff (which for me is a long time ago)
(I got my first computer in 2012)
And I never deleted files
 
Wow, you're almost brand new
Probably still under warranty
 
you've heard of "Final" "Final 2" "Final Final" etc. but have you heard of:
 
No, because I organize my backups properly
 
12:46 AM
Those aren't backups
They are archive's
 
If it is on a disk you keep attached to your computer, it's not really an archive
Hardly long term storage
Disks die all the time
 
It's on an Archive disk and a backup archive disk
Untitled.png is very important to me
You ever do a talk to yourself in the future video?
 
No.
 
You're no fun
;)
 
LIES
I'm great fun
I work all the time and will die before I need to save for retirement
Makes for a very fun filled life
So much disposable income
 
12:59 AM
oh god, computer class 4th grade
> The keyboard: a rectangle with letters, numbers, and symbols on it. The keyboard is used to enter information into the computer. It’s a way to “talk” to the computer.
> CD-Rom: A flat, circular disk that holds a tremendous amount of information. Software you buy for your computer usually is stored on a CD-Rom.
> The mouse: is a friendly tool to help you “talk” to the computer by clicking and dragging items on the screen. You move the mouse with your hand and as you move the mouse, the pointer (cursor) moves around the screen.
 
Not bad for a fourth grader
 
(That wasn't my work, that was what the teacher gave to us)
 
Seems reasonable for a fourth grade handout
 
Interesting to me how they described it
Haha. Throwback to when I saved the YouTube home page to an html file thinking I could bypass the filter on the school wifi.
alright I'm out for the night o/
thanks for lang suggestions :)
 
 
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3:29 AM
Good morning everyone. :)
 
 
1 hour later…
4:43 AM
Good Morning all..
Don't comment bad code - rewrite it.
 
morning..
 
5:15 AM
Ok @PratikButani
 
5:46 AM
Morning
TGIF.
 
Greetings!
 
eLi
Hi
 
hello
 
Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Morning Everyone!!!!! :D
 
eLi
6:21 AM
morning Womp3r
 
 
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7:22 AM
o/
 
7:35 AM
\o
 
Sorry, @TimCastelijns, we were talking about coroutines and some review, but I got evicted from the student dormitory and I have to postpone everything :(
 
D:
you ok??
 
8:30 AM
how is everyone
 
waiting for my PC to be delivered
 
finally! 🎉🎉🎉
which one did you get?
 
nice! you went desktop, good choice
 
I have been playing games on potato laptops and macbooks for too long y3ah
 
8:46 AM
@grrigore That's a harsh punishment for learning kotlin
 
and which monitor(s) did you get?
 
8:58 AM
I have some old ass monitors still
they are 23" 1080p screens so not too bad
but I got them with my last desktop :D which was in 2006 or 7 or so
 
That looks pretty nice
Also considering buying a cheapish desktop to play games again
 
23" is pretty good :D
I'm considering getting 2 of these as well
@RaghavSood 🧐raghav - playing 🤔
 
Sep 16 at 7:13, by Raghav Sood
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Get with the times, Grandpa
 
now that's just counter productive tbh
 
I disagree
It saves me from having to swap cords and input selections when I need to use the linux desktop or mac
Plus. second hand monitors are really cheap
 
9:08 AM
but you lose every single bit of attention and focus
 
Not really, I usually only switch when required
For example, if I need the mac to build stuff for iOS
So the focus remains on the project
And xcode etc. is always running
So there's no downtime beyond typing in the password if the screen locked
My primary laptop (last three screens) cover about 99% of my usecases
The mac is only for iOS builds, and the linux desktop is meant to be turned into an always on task tracker + dashboard
There's another monitor which I couldn't fit on the desk, which will be sold for scraps as punishment for developing dead pixels
 
nerd
 
Meh, they were cheap
I think I've spent a total of ~500 NZD for all five monitors
The bulk of which was for the newest two, being 27" ones, one with a USB C dock + power delivery
 
I never spent more than 100eu on a monitor
 
My average here is about 56 eur/monitor
Used monitors are plenty cheap
And if you get the ex lease ones from business sales, they're usually not that old too
Most sane places tend to cycle every 2-3 years, and monitors last a long time
Really don't need to buy a new one unless you really need something top of the shelf/fancy USB C or Thunderbolt stuff
 
9:17 AM
I never buy used hardware
 
Just get one 75 inch monitor and put all the windows there
 
I tend to buy my primary laptop and phone new, the random stuff is fine used
 
@W0MP3R yes I'm ok rn, thanks :)
 
@Ashar7 you currently do not meet the requirements to join the room (room-15.github.io)
@Ashiq welcome, please start by reading the rules before saying anything else room-15.github.io
 
I have read and understood the rules
 
9:30 AM
thanks and welcome :)
 
I was already a member? do you guys regularly remove inactive ones?
 
yeah, sometimes, otherwise the list becomes unmanageable, glad to have you back amongst us
 
Online since 20-09-2019 09:36 (UTC). Running on develop@355b70d. Uptime: 0h
 
thanks for the clarification
 
10:37 AM
This was the most starred message last year on this day:
Sep 20 '18 at 20:29, by Tim Castelijns
I leave for Germany tomorrow morning. Back on Tuesday. Leaving my phone at home because I don't expect to be making any selfies with Ahmad
 
11:29 AM
I was reading a blog about Fragment -> Activity communication. On intro paragraph, the blogger said that on screen rotation when using interfaces, the fragments keep a reference to "old" activity instance. I suppose it is true when the fragment is set to retain instance?
 
 
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12:40 PM
mornins
 
how u
 
good u
 
12:56 PM
i was joking with a colleague on slack, and accidentally posted the joke on the general slack channel, only realised 10min later when I got people responding :|
 
1:07 PM
holy
 
i good i good
came in early so I can leave early today
 
eLi
moly
 
Thanks eli
 
@MehdiB. was the joke about how the receptionist is a total bimbo
 
eLi
Hi mauker
 
1:10 PM
nah, just a normal one, r15 shitposting style :D
 
sup
 
hello
how are you?
 
p good p good
about to head out with a bucket of water and a sponge
to clean me bike
 
Ahmad's take more care of his bike than of his own life
 
@MehdiB. good good :D
 
1:34 PM
hey
@TimCastelijns ryzen nice choice ,congrats
 
I wouldn't know
some friends said it was decent
 
yeah ryzen is good
f*** intel
costly piece of garbage
that is last gen ryzen tho
 
3 mins ago, by Tim Castelijns
I wouldn't know
 
yes that is why i am telling you
 
I just went out to get a converter because this PC doesn't have vga/dvi ports lol
 
1:40 PM
xD
gtx 1060 has one
oh your's is the new one 1660
probably nvidia decide enough of supporting older crap /shrug
 
Zoe
The majority of newer hardware (connect targets, not sources) doesn't have VGA. Not supporting it isn't really the worst loss
 
surprising it doesn't have DVI at least
 
yup the older used to have
vga is long gone i guess
i hope tim's monitor supports the newer one
 
well if his monitor is after 2005 it should
 
why do you think I had to get a converter
 
1:44 PM
for fun obviously
 
Zoe
Because you manually replaced the HDMI with VGA because you're old school or something?
 
xD
i was worried about that only xD
 
I have 3 monitors with only vga and dvi
they are old AF but still nice
 
yeah unless you have the CRT one
 
not everyone lives in india coldfire and still uses CRT monitors
 
1:47 PM
no these were one of the first 1080p lcd screens back then
from 2007 I think
 
did your country directly went to flat screen bb?
 
I'm still using that green phospur screen
 
we said "CRT? CRT????? We rather stare at our walls"
 
#oldSchool
 
1:47 PM
yuck
 
yeah
it went:
1) No screen
2) Flat screen
 
@TimCastelijns ah flatscreen was already in the market for some time by then
 
No I was saying it's ridiculous to think in 2019 that anyone in a first world country is using a CRT monitor
 
I coded my first distributed enterprise AI software using AR glasses back in 1992
 
yes but not in 1080p CF
 
1:49 PM
yeah
 
I can easily fit 1080p on a CTR monitor
scrap that I can even fit 4K on them
KKKK
 
why do you still have a CRT?
 
> User Mauker has been banned for life
 
@ColdFire it was a joke
 
@ColdFire I don't
 
1:53 PM
<_<
 
@Mauker CRT*
 
@ballBreaker we were not talking about 2019
@Mauker niceeeee
 
yes we are
it is currently 2019
and we are talking about Tim's current monitors.
in.
 
sigh
 
2019.
 
1:55 PM
Is it?
I'm lost
 
this has to be the most intelligent conversation we've had so far in 2019
and we had intelligent conversations
 
Here let me break up this retarded back and forth with this:
 
2:21 PM
killing the chat with dead kid jokes
 
since 1990s - bb
 
> The initial relapse occurred within one week in 64 (59%) cases
 
Usually you start with the context
or at least you know
give ANY kind of context
;)
 
CRT monitors have glass, when the glass breaks it stings or cuts, needles sting, needles are used by some drug addicts, when they try to get back on track of being healthy they go to rehab, 59% of the sample relapses within 1 week
how can it be hard to deduct that...
 
2:28 PM
There we go
Here let me give you an example of what you did
 
⌛️
 
> Networking on Android is not significantly different from other Linux environments.
 
xD
 
@MehdiB. Did you mean:
 
I actually found it hard to find an example, and android isn't even as random as opiate relapses
 
2:33 PM
@MehdiB. it's like you have to spell everything out for everyone these days
 
I guess I'm just used to people pre emptively preparing you for a quote
Instead of quoting something in the middle of a paragraph and then linking the source, when the bit that was quoted isn't even the entire picture
 
@eski exactly... smh, must be those video games slowing down peoples brains...
 
or am I'm just being a dingledorf today
 
@eski even better use pictures to explain like orange man
 
lol we're being sarcastic bb
plus it's an irish study so it's only relevant to mark
 
2:36 PM
do you mean bumpleburf?
 
xD
racist study
 
I just can't tell if I'm the dumb one or if mehdi is the dumb one
someone please vote
 
bb dumb (x)
 
xD
 
guys, I know there is no topic currently going at the moment! But... let's make it clear we're going to have shortly a shift of topics from "None" to "something"!
Now, the long awaited moment: Context!
I read an interesting study, beware the following message will be about relapse: <quote + link>
 
2:40 PM
nice
 
how does the above template looks like bb?
 
very good
 
will make sure to follow it, thanks for the guidance! you're showing the way!
 
if you just quoted more it would have been fine too
> We conducted a follow-up study of opiate dependent patients admitted to a addiction treatment service for detoxification. We measured the rate of relapse following discharge ... The initial relapse occurred within one week in 64 (59%) cases.
 
amazing idea, bb!
 
2:41 PM
thanks
glad you agree
 
will do, thanks for the feedback!
 
I'm smrt
S-M-R-T
 
that literally means death on Serbian
 
wow
 
@IvanMilisavljevic smrt?
 
2:44 PM
yeah
 
serbian sounds like a made up language if smrt is a word lmao
m s smrt i do tngs wll
 
google says it's Czech
you liar!
@IvanMilisavljevic hah yeah I was just jokin
 
both slavic languages, very similar
nah i treid to paste the link with google translate :D
didnt work as expected :D
 
heheh yeah I noticed
 
2:46 PM
also one fun fact about Serbian language
 
lmao edit
 
we pronounce words exactly as we write them
for example smrt is pronounced s m r t
 
that is true for mostly all languages except english and some other i guess
 
nooooooooo
bad edit
bad
 
^
 
2:47 PM
haha
 
bad edit booooo
 
@ColdFire can you confirm this statement for how many languages?
 
hehehe
@MehdiB. yes!
 
PINGUUUUUUU
wait... that's not pingu
 
2:56 PM
Heresy!
That's pingu's friend probably
 
now you must die
 
lolol
 
lmao
pingu <3
 
bahaha so much childhood packed into such a small penguin
I dubbed over an entire pingu episode once for a girlfriend it was pretty good
I shoulda filmed it
@MwBakker
 
3:22 PM
@TaseerAhmad isn't that his baby brother
 
woot Apple featured our app for their new Apple Sign-in feature: support.apple.com/en-us/HT210318
 
wooo
congratz
 
3:49 PM
@TimCastelijns Yes, I forgot
I deserve a punishment now
 
you've been a bad boy
 
4:06 PM
o/
 
xD
sup carl
 
revenue, apparently
yearly all-hands this week
 
4:41 PM
posted on September 20, 2019 by lfy

Emulator 29.2.1 is now available in the Canary channel. Changes: Google Maps UI Previously, it can be hard to work with virtual location settings because of the high barrier of entering lat/lon points manually and finding or generating GPX/KML files. Now, Extended Controls > Location includes an integrated Google Maps view, along with a point selector and route generator. Individual poin

 
does anyone here follow the Class layout from the code convention?
https://kotlinlang.org/docs/reference/coding-conventions.html#class-layout
 
nope
 
just recently I got access to a new code base and the previous developers are following that, so they are nesting many classes in a single file. I find it super nasty as it obscures a lot of the implementation.
I wonder if anyone has a different opinion about nesting many classes in a single file or I have severy OCD with that
 
that sounds terrible
 
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