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5:03 PM
how's it going Bear
 
Darn something's wrong with my google play emulators none of my apps can access the internet not even google play store apps
 
is your emulator in airplane mode?
 
Nooo
I can browse, check emails, etc.
But no apps
Has anyone had this problem b4?
 
Zoe
@Graeme uh, yeah... About that.... I don't have a ref sheet :] They're really complicated xd
 
no
does it happen on a new emulator instance?
 
5:22 PM
Any of your artistic types wanna make an ad for my baseball card app on that SO meta post for open source ads?
 
@ballBreaker
 
looks like my drawing skills stagnated since my childhood years
 
beatiful
 
thanks murat, that's the only thing I ever knew how to draw
 
5:34 PM
5/7
so pretty
 
@MehdiB. the fuck you talking about? That drawing makes you look like Picasso compared to any of my stick people
 
😂😂😂😂
"stick people" XD
 
lets not set the bar that low
 
o/
 
5:39 PM
This is the type of emails I receive every week
 
translation plz
oh...ads
you should definitely sign up for that...ad revenue can make you rich!
 
Their ad services will make me a millionaire, let me sign up
 
CA didn't consider my application
 
Have to appreciate that they take their time to send such emails
 
@MehdiB. huh? oh...that drawing was for my open source ad? I think you need some text...
cuz I didn't even relate it back to my question
 
5:45 PM
@Code-Apprentice if your ad needs one of the elements of that drawing I'm your guy
 
But only the elements of that drawing, I'm uncompromising when it comes to art
 
you are definitely up there with picaso then
time to get some food, bbl
 
Cya!
 
haha Android 10.0.0 is a thing now
 
5:55 PM
Of all Android versions, Kitkat is what I like
Idk why
 
Well some ppl don't like change, I get it
 
Probably, I used KitKat most
In 2011, I first used I think GingerBread
Then jumped to KitKat, then Marshmallow then Nougat then Oreo and then Pie
 
6:14 PM
 
@Code-Apprentice What about this?
 
@Code-Apprentice
 
are you hacked or just spamming memes into here
 
6:19 PM
im collecting stars
 
@ballBreaker I found a music for you, just the way you like it: youtube.com/watch?v=yKNxeF4KMsY
 
\o
 
:3
BTW, anyone ever used or uses state machines?
 
o/
 
I'm using one right now
 
6:22 PM
Dave is a state machine
 
that's not the only type of machine I am
 
What exactly the problem state machines addresses? I know what they are but I can't think of any real-world problem
 
they keep track of different states
 
traffic lights
 
@CarlAnderson ooohh.. Now I get it. Red -> yellow -> green -> yellow -> red
 
6:25 PM
every computer is also a state machine
 
@Mauker maukerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
 
But it's statically 2-way states...
 
CFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
 
a finite state machine is just a device that takes input and has a finite number of outputs
turing complete machines are just finite state machines with memory
 
sup maukerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr?
 
6:28 PM
whyyyyyyyyyyyy?
 
IDKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
 
wtf is going onnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
 
there's only one WOMPERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
 
there is a imposterrrrrrrrrrrrrrr?
 
I'VE BEEN SUMMONED!!!!!!!!
 
6:30 PM
YES!
 
WHY IS EVERYONE WRITING IN CAPITALS?
 
lol
 
OMG!!!1!
 
i forgot that pokemon name
 
6:31 PM
@W0MP3R what is that?
 
paras
 
crabby something along those lines?
oh yeah paras
 
It's someone summoning W0MPER
obviously
 
sometimes it's paras, sometimes it's elmo
 
@TaseerAhmad coldplay is for women
jk coldplay is okay
 
6:32 PM
How could you assume!
 
What if they are intended for Apache helis
 
speaking of cold play yellow
this interview is hilaroius
 
Man, I just want to be in a place like this for once
 
"the stars aren't even yellow"
"I just wrote this song to make me mates giggle"
 
6:34 PM
stars are yellow if you starred it yourself
 
Stars are pink
 
not sure if Coldplay even knows how to use SO chat
 
Nice, only ROs can do that though
 
wrong bb
 
star yourself?
Pretty sure I'm not wrong but maybe
 
6:35 PM
star any message yourself
except your own
 
stars are black on the star board if you haven't starred it yourself
but they're yellow if you have
 
Yeah, what you on about davey
 
you just don't understand english bb it's ok
 
look at the star board, look how they shine for you
 
oh sorry, you mean if you starred something yourself
I thought you meant starring your own messages
Which only ROs can do
Unless they fixed that bug..
 
6:36 PM
I can only star my own messages if I also pin them
 
Yeah, but you can unpin it and the star stays
IIRC
 
I used to rule the world...now in the morning I sleep alone and sweep the streets I used to own 0wO
 
xD
 
I have listened nearly all Coldplay songs
Have been listening them since 2010
 
coldplay is alright
nothing too special though
Chicks seem to love them though
 
6:39 PM
Sadly, there are no musical concerts here that I dear t_t
 
Yeah that's not entirely surprising
 
Wait, chicks as in Hen's offsprings?
 
yes
 
Dang, so this is what they hear before served on a KFC platter
 
If I was in a famous band there is basically 0% chance I would tour in Pakistan
 
6:40 PM
@ballBreaker Why?
 
I have a feeling the concert ticket sales wouldn't make it worth it
Also after the concert bombings/shootings I just wouldn't risk it in a muslim country
Not trying to say all muslims are terrorists or anything, but the probability for something like that is higher
 
Well, yes, true, concerts here don't make enough
 
Like Coldplay could sell out a 30k arena for $100/ticket
Kind of doubtful you'd get similar results in a third world country
 
Only the elites here would afford a 100/ticket lol
 
6:43 PM
@MehdiB. Not sure what you're getting at
 
There are certain songs that I may not like. But I still listen to them because I have my emotions tied to them so to access memories, I listen to those songs
 
Yeah for sure, music is mostly an emotional experience
 
Ah yeah I know that feeling, like the duck song
 
So that makes a lot of sense
 
"Then he waddled away.
(Waddle waddle)
'Til the very next day."
gets me every time
 
6:44 PM
duck song?
 
Pakistan is a lot safe than before. You could say that you would not want to risk it back in 2000-14
Most extremists are killed by the army
 
@ballBreaker Morocco is overall a muslim country, that didn't stop 200k people from going to a single concert, and a total of 2.75M concert-goers on that festival alone
 
Meh, I'm just saying I personally wouldn't do it
 
Hey! Got any Grapes?
 
6:46 PM
The real problem is the revenue in 3rd world countries
 
~(-.-~)
 
I looked at that festivals lineup and don't recognize a single name in there
So I'm clearly not alone with my opinion
 
you looked at the 200 artists? you don't recognize Future for ex?
 
Morocco is a bit different from the pakistan/afghanistan area
 
Also that
 
6:47 PM
hmm
morocco is richer than pak gdp per capita /shrug
 
@DaveS mwBakkers confirms
 
@DaveS lmao that song
 
@DaveS yeah I just commented on the "muslim" thing, because many people tend to think those countries are all the same
 
yeah that's not an accurate description I agree Mehdi
extremist violence has more to do with regional and economic issues than religion
 
i agree
 
6:50 PM
Yeah I don't really see Morocco as a problem country
 
People who are ignorant, trashy, violent, extremist, oppressor use religion's veil to cover up their f**kups. All religions in the world promote peace but look at the actual result. Religions are like communism, sounds perfect on paper but in reality they don't work
 
@TaseerAhmad the trick to sell tickets in poor countries is to relocate the "ticket purchase" to sponsors
 
lets not get there
 
you don't make people pay for it, but secure a few giant sponsors
 
I see
 
6:54 PM
i think coldplay came last year here
 
If anyone likes historical videos, watch this youtube.com/user/britishpathe/videos
 
7:07 PM
Guys, I was reading good practices for ViewModels and observers, and they say that ViewModel should not include android.* imports, it should never know Android frameworks
But then they say that general decision making/loops should be moved to ViewModel
 
So that means I should not be using any URI/Parcelable/Intent imports in the ViewModel? What's the point of storing such objects in Viewmodel then?
 
ViewModel comes from android.* ...
 
"A general rule of thumb is to make sure there are no android.* imports in your ViewModels (with exceptions like android.arch.*)"
 
androidx.*
 
And it means you shouldn't be doing any *any android specific framework stuff inside view models
 
Yikes I am confused
I have these imports in my ViewModel
 
Everyone is
 
` import android.content.Intent
import android.net.Uri
import android.os.Parcelable`
 
Relax
Thats normal
In general you should avoid using any object with the lifecycle inside your VM-s
Like View/Activity/Fragment/Application
 
7:15 PM
ok
 
Let me rephrase that: You should avoid keeping reference to any of the objected with the lifecycle
 
@DaveS I was genuinely intrigued for a second XD
 
lol
 
@IvanMilisavljevic yes this
 
I find limitations of new android.x stuff to be deal breaker for me
Im looking at you navigation/view-models
Yeah paging too
 
7:25 PM
@IvanMilisavljevic how?
 
Navigation is crippled in ways i cant explain
Double clicking on a button with navigation is going to crash your app
Its not honoring saved states
Lack of support for really simple stuff, like the issue Tim had couple of days ago
ViewModels: Simple component marked as lover access than android core components it should be coupled with. Which makes the original (and proper) VM pattern impossible to implement
Paging: outside access to the list/loading/manipulation is something you can't achieve on the fly (without hackz)
example: IF you're loading a simple list from the api, there is no good way to tell if api returned and error or to tell if list is actually empty
 
7:51 PM
idk
Google is weird
 
I changed my implementation actually, now I am using dialogs on top of dialogs instead of the nested navhostfragment
 

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