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10:00 PM
why not?
 
I don't see how he would opt-out of it, since he's already on the list by the time he requests write privileges
 
the thing is, in things like that you can't rely on internet advices / articles and tell the court later "X told me that" or "I read in SE legal" (not sure that's a thing)
 
@TimCastelijns delete the info of users who are rejected for any reason as soon as they are rejected
 
Unless idk, we place the bot privacy stuff on the room description and pin it for life, saying that by the time he's requesting access the bot is recording data X,Y,Z. Like an "EULA" or something.
 
maybe the first message bot display that the bot is going to be recording your data
to opt out go to this link?
something along those lines
 
10:02 PM
it's not simple to trigger bot stuff by link
 
^
 
make a rest api?
and fire it?
 
rest
 
Also, it would be counter productive for the user to request access and also have to click on something else to get access
too many steps
 
yes, I consider that not simple
 
10:03 PM
@TimCastelijns go with a opt out command then
 
The bot is here to help, not to make things difficult
 
yes the point is that a user who is rejected cannot say !optout
 
and GDPR is here to be PITA
 
We could remove the data from the DB once rejected, and if accepted, create a command for the user to manually remove it.
!optout
 
Unknown command '!optout'
 
10:04 PM
i already said that mauker
 
I really want the data for analytics
 
I know, I'm saying it again
> Larry Page, 1998
 
meh just keep the data in a list until user does the opt in command?
then insert
 
I don't think it's ok to store in a list if it's not ok to store in db
:P
 
^
He has a point
 
10:06 PM
list is not permanent storage
 
I don't think that matters
 
You're still storing stuff that you can check up later
 
it matters
 
You can't avoid legal matters that way lol
You're still storing it
for as long as the list lives
and you can do whatever you want with that data in the meantime
Which would be the same as storing on a db
 
look at us software developers debating legal stuff 😂😂😂
 
10:07 PM
lol that is not storing , with that logic any data ever processed is stored somewhere
yeah i see something very screwed up here
 
I was just thinking out loud earlier. I don't even know if you're considered users, and which rules apply in this environment
 
@MehdiB. At least it's not BI :D
#mean
 
@Mauker incorrect by all means
 
@TimCastelijns Holy shit Tim, what are we then?
@ColdFire Dude, your solution wouldn't hold in court.
 
with your solution you wont even get to court and lose it before :D
 
10:09 PM
Let's say that Facebook never stores their statistics in a database, but use that data for some shady stuff, they're still going to be sued regardless
Doesn't matter if the data is destroyed while you're being judged
 
Tim - maybe ask in meta, hoping a SO employee would answer?
 
how are they going to do some shady stuff if they are not going to store it?
 
nvm that would probably just generate drama
 
it's not up to them mehdi I think. I am storing it externally
 
honestly meh i wouldn't care much about it, give the bot to someone out of EU
 
10:11 PM
as far i remember, storing data that doesn't make it possible to identify users is ok under GDPR
 
@ColdFire It's stored on a list man!
They're keeping it live for as long as the script is running
keep something on a list doesn't mean it's going to be flushed
 
yep mehdi indeed. I don't know if any of our data here is PII, considering all we say about ourselves can be made up
 
The programmer can choose to increase the list size and keep all the user's data for as long as the thing is running
 
obviously i gave it a thought but userId identifies a user
 
and he can access it and do whatever he wants with it
 
10:13 PM
exactly, + even the location fields SO give to the users is limited to the city I think
 
not sure how personal that info is?
 
so country + city
 
btw CF giving the bot to someone out of EU would be good, then they could be sued instead of me
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LOL
 
i know try suing me in india you will regret that for life
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10:13 PM
XD
 
you can enter any text you want for location mehdi
XD
 
> Netherlands declare war on India based on a GDPR violation with a SE chat bot
 
oh btw before the court hearing date arrives all the users whose personal data i have will be dead anyway
 
The data might not be the only proof, and deleting it might even make your situation worse if it's requested later on
But hell, what do I know, I'm not a lawyer.
Potato.
 
10:16 PM
hmm
@TimCastelijns lol you misunderstood i meant the hearing date will take years not the other way
 
oh xD
 
that was a jibe at indian judiciary
dammit indian joke ruined :(
 
can't blame me for thinking the other way, given the context "try suing me in india you will regret that for life"
 
hey i have to throw a punch line you see
 
how is your startup doing CF? any link to share yet?
 
10:22 PM
not yet but i got somethings moving
i see million dollars already $$$$$$
 
Care to share a lil with your poor friends?
I'm a typer you know
 
exactly the reason you cant know you already work for me
NNA for you
 
once you launch share the link
 
CF I'm the only developer on the planet who doesn't own a computer, send some love
 
😂😂😂
 
10:26 PM
the million dollar message was just a joke in case anybody didn't notice
lmao tim
 
Yeah, I have to agree on that one, Tim has priority
 
oh my startup does require people of europe once its gets off the ground
 
What's it about?
 
was planning on hiring indians living in EU tho
ofcourse there is a possibility it might not reach that stage
well i will found out soon enough
 
why exactly indians?
 
10:29 PM
@MehdiB. sure probably not another 3 months i guess
 
don't worry CF, actually 9 out of 10 concerns are unfounded
 
easier to do business and cheaper
 
@MehdiB. The prince care for his people.
 
@TimCastelijns XD
 
lol suits
damn i finished season 7 already
 
10:30 PM
norsemen
 
Fucking dyslexia
I've read that as sl*ts
 
@ColdFire not sure indians living in the EU would be cheap :D
 
oh yeah true its from norsemen
 
@MehdiB. actually they are , already in contact with one
 
10:30 PM
â“‚/
 
also ease of doing business is another very important factor
 
EU only discriminates between man/woman when paying wage, not between EU/not EU
 
lol
that would be insulting to other 69 genders tho
 
except Iceland who made lots of progress in equalizing the 2
(sorry, too lazy to google for a source)
 
hmm i am not sure that gender pay gap even exist here in india
 
10:34 PM
What's the topic this evening?
 
@ColdFire lol are you denying those who identify as people of the 72nd gender?
 
@TimCastelijns yes they are aliens
 
:O
 
@RaymondArteaga frogs and cubans
 
@RaymondArteaga Legal stuff
 
10:36 PM
@RaymondArteaga you should already know what we're talking about by knowing what we're not talking about (farts amongst other topics :D)
 
And CF's world domination startup
 
that would be raghav
 
Fine, then there's nothing to do with me
 
except we were discussing frog dishes
you have your mb right tim?
 
Eat me...
You will get a bitter surprise
@ColdFire mibi bit?
 
10:39 PM
oh i am a veggie , eating you would be mauker
@RaymondArteaga mega bit
 
10:51 PM
It's company property bro
All code I write on this belongs to them
 
just push the code to external drive then all yours now :D
i just changed my plans from buying a laptop to a powerful desktop :D
 
thought you already bought one a few months ago
 
Let's hope they don't find this post as well! — Outman Jan 17 at 9:49
naah i tried my best and again something let me down
 
repost
15 hours ago, by Cold Fire
Let's hope they don't find this post as well! — Outman 2 days ago
 
so i have decided that xps 15 just isn't in my luck
what i dont remember posting the link @Mauker did you do it
dammit typer getting out of hand
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11:04 PM
XD
 
btw @TimCastelijns i wasn't kidding when i said i will need people from EU
 
will you pay him in $$ or give him shares?
 
lol
 
or both?
Alright, night everyone, trying again to regulate my sleep schedule for the Nth time
 
true night from me too
o/
 
11:14 PM
Fun fact: Bubble wrap was originally created as wallpaper
 
@ColdFire I wasn't kidding when I said all I do on this Mac is property of the company I work for. I can't work for you
 
oh i know
 
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