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00:00
SO removes transparency
I've tried to make circles have transparent bgs more than once
00:19
yeah SO strips alpha channel
also mine is a gif and it doesn't work either
sometimes when the gravatar server goes down it fall back to the primary image and my gif starts working
so you're saying we need to DOS gravatar
I'm not saying not to for sure
 
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04:45
Greetings Everyone!.
05:24
Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Morrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrning.........................
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06:13
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06:31
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Morning Everyone!!!!!! :D
07:01
Morning Womper Raghu ashvin
o/
@RaghavSood : I believe our digital selves cant be "that secure", because we have other things to do, and we have only limited resources to exempt on "getting secure". For example, a profession black-hat (given enough skills) can mostly keep himself safe (other than the threats to his life) even from a state-backed attack, I guess, as he has been investing on it for a while.
Anyway, Networking and security, is very very cool area to dive into.
I have been trying to use sslstrip and sslsniff along with arp-spoofing to read the traffic on my local system. But, lets see ..
@ZeekHuge I disagree. After a certain point, the only way to stay safe is to make sure your data stays within a private network with no external access
07:16
Correction : I have been trying to use sslstrip and sslsniff along with arp-spoofing to read the traffic on my local network. But, lets see ..
@RaghavSood: Really ? I mean, there can be bugs that can be exploited. But I think most of them must have been resolved.
@Code-Apprentice I'm wondering in what scenario this would be useful
But yeah, news similar to that meltdown and spectre would mean there are bugs we are literally unaware of
Damn, this is getting out of control then.
Right. I guess we can be only reasonably secure. And probably that is inherit into the attack-defence model itself. Attacking side will always be at an advantage. So, we should try to attack ourselves but then state-backed have an army of attackers. What about state-backed vs state-backed ? The attacking side will still be at an advantage I guess. they have to be right, just once.
There is more to being hacked than bugs
A very dedicated attack would likely be focused on more social factors
A reasonably competent person would be able to maintain a system reasonably bug-free
If I really wanted to hack, say, Tim, most of my effort would go into getting him to install bad apps/programs, run sketchy code as root, breaking into his house, etc.
If I were a country, I could hypothetically use as-yet-unproven backdoors in stuff like Intel ME to gain access, or tap communications far higher up then chain
If I want to hack a lot of people, I would aim for general bug exploitation, look for credentials, open mongo DBs, whatever
Focused attacks are a lot harder to fight against, because they often exploit you, not your systems
On a side note, why is open-mongoDBs so common ? while I haven't ever heard of open MySQLs ? Is that because of the default MySQL setting to reuse traffic from IPs other than specified ? I am not sure if mongoDB has similar feature ..
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07:30
Terrible default config choices
@TimCastelijns: got it. Thanks !
@raghav we have 100k rep together. Wanna merge? We'd get a box of swag
Not sure you can merge accounts
Plus, think of all the character this room would lose
of course you can, or don't you know the fusion dance?
my friend and I practiced when we were kids. It's easier than it looks, except for the finger tip touching
Gogetaaaa~~
~(-.-~)
07:37
:D
07:49
how are you today CF
He's feeling a bit blue
blue his house with a blue little window?
08:01
Hmm
I'm all out of food
And its already 2100
So no markets open now
eat a kiwi
That's illegal
they won't miss one or two
08:05
D:
@RaghavSood woot, why?
Anyway, you can eat pigeon, people say it tastes like chicken
Protected species and all that
I have eaten pigeon, it's not bad
And partridges
Quite similar
actually I was referring to NZ people. They are called kiwis no?
08:08
That's also illegal
4 mins ago, by Tim Castelijns
they won't miss one or two
I am a law abiding resident
btw dima if you want to find some questions that can quickly be closed you should check here stackoverflow.com/tools?tab=close&daterange=last30days they are sorted by nr of current close votes
"This page requires more privileges"
But I have review queue stackoverflow.com/review/close
08:12
Check your privilege bro
oh oops you need 10k for that
'This page requires not to be slav" would be funny :D
funny or racist not sure which
That would be racist... but funny
Slav isn't a race
08:13
what is the correct term?
> Slavs are an Indo-European ethno-linguistic group who speak the various Slavic languages of the larger Balto-Slavic linguistic group
sooo instead of racist it would be.. ethno-linguistic groupist?
🤔
user443346
o/
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@TimCastelijns Skand
for those above pland
and baltic, for those below
user443346
^ Ajax.
08:23
I heard ajax almost beat bayern last night
Franciiiiis~~~
sorry, my inner nerd is more active than usual
@mauker can you close that one PR on chatse? It's bothering me
@TimCastelijns today is a sad day
@RaghavSood lol too blue
user443346
08:39
Almost indeed, Bayern got destroyed.
@RaghavSood 9 pm everything closed?
who is this bayern?
it's a german football team
oh
@Code-Apprentice yay thanks~~
next thing you know he does not know arjen robben
@codeMagic cM my fav indianaaaaaaaaaaaaaa mannnnnnnnnnnnn
08:42
the most aerodynamic player of all time. Shaped like and as fast as a bullet
obviously i have no idea who is this arjen
user443346
CF didn't even know who Ajax is
for obvious reasons
user443346
I flagged "obviously i have no idea who is this arjen"
user443346
I'm very, very offended
08:50
please no bullshit flags
user443346
But I thought that shit is allowed nowadays
lol i have little to no interest in sports dude
Seriously folks?
yeah jordy pls no bs flags
user443346
Oh shit I spawned Jon again
user443346
08:52
Apr 16 at 10:37, by Jordy
Jon is like SO's genie, when you rub the flag button hard enough, he'll spawn
2
user443346
Sorry Jon!
@Jordy No wishes for you! :) Alright... I'm off again... behave with the flagging please...
@Jordy yes, but in the context of 'be nice'
08:53
Aww, you guys summoned the mods without me
I wasn't done drawing the pentagram yet
I have acquired oreos
The food shortage has temporarily been averted
nice
you can make your body fully electric and get rid of all food problems tho
And subject myself to risk of dying in a power outage?
batteries
08:58
@RaghavSood Brilliant... I was feeling a bit peckish... you're a star.... /me runs off with the Oreos...
Can't trust anyone these days
damn oreos when jon is around not a good idea
definitely not ninja dogs
What has the world come to when those in positions of power are robbing the poor students?
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@RaghavSood It's called capitalism
09:00
hey dont defame capitalism for greediness
user443346
But it's true tho
nope
capitalism gives you opportunity what you do with it its upto you
user443346
They give you the idea of opportunity. At the end of the month you realize you're working for the state.
what is working for state?
You wouldn't understand, you are the state
@Jordy I hear many Dutch people saying this
Meanwhile our state does provide us health benefits, best roads of the world and best water in the world
CF what you doing man, you've changed :(
You won't die on the street if you get wounded etc etc
And I can finish my studies due to state influence
@ColdFire ARJEN ROBBENNNNNNNN
user443346
It means the goverment expects you to be the brave uncle Tom who works till his 67th, pays insane taxes over his monthly loan and also has to pay 21% tax over any product he buys. Yes, including vegetables and fruit. Besides the average of 15K debt for people who want to study and don't have parents who can pay it all.
09:11
The old batman and robin combo
@MarkO'Sullivan lol what did i do?
How's the new job, Mark?
@Jordy free education isn't better
@ColdFire wait sorry, I meant you changed your picture!
i have very little interest in sports mostly cricket which is a religion in itself in India
09:12
Flames
Your new job is in flames?
oh yeah changed it yesterday
But you've only been there a few weeks
@RaghavSood going great! :)
Love the new job
Blink twice if they're watching you
09:12
oh yeah you have been busy on your new job it seems
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@DimaRostopira Tell that to the Swedish people on SO, they'll disagree
We'll be rolling out a beta in the next month or so
@MwBakker obviously i have seen the people who enjoy the benefit of capitalism the most dont seem to appreciate that
dont worry indians appreciate specially after how communism and socialism screwed us for 44 years
@Jordy I don't want to sound like a jerk but nobody is obligated to stay in his country
@DimaRostopira it is
09:15
If it is that bad, try the 'greener grass side' and you'll figure it ain't that green after all
if people are educated there are lots of benefit enough to cover the cost of providing free education
@Jordy But meanwhile they pay appr 7 euro's for a beer in a bar
Btw it does not mean I agree on every costs our state makes. There are many costs that are utter nonsense, of course
Meanwhile I ran into another XML inflation error...
@MwBakker i fully agree i haven't even migrated i have started to appreciate india a lot more than i did 5 or 10 years before
user443346
You will aventually start to dislike your country when people who've helped build it up around the 50's get stabbed in the back by their own goverment.
user443346
My parents for example, I can't take this shit country serious. Only reason I stay is because of family and friends.
user443346
09:28
Oh and weed.
@Jordy How?
And which country does meet your interests?
but Your country will always be your country and other country will always be other
@Jordy on the contrary i have started to love india even more
I don't know about that CF. I feel little connection to NL
yes i wasnt generalizing i was just saying what i feel
i know i read a survey the dutch are the least likely to fight for their country
15%
user443346
By letting my parents (whove payed high taxes for ~45 years) go bankrupt and almost lose their house because my mom's previous employer & the government made tax calculation issues and didn't recieve enough (yeah they still needed more).
user443346
09:31
So they made it my mom's problem.
15% really?
that's more than expected
user443346
But jeeej, capitalism!
user443346
Opportunity my ass.
the most was pakistan if i remember correctly
~93%
india was somewhere around ~80%
@Jordy is dutchland a capitalist country or socialist?
@Jordy But capitalism is our nature. Without capitalism we'd be just like insects. We'd all have jobs but nobody exactly grows
09:33
^
without capitalism you will be like india of 1991 dirt poor
that's just stereotipic
enjoy the poverity i guess
@ColdFire Socialism comes forth out of capitalism as well. Somebody needs to have more in order to be able to help the other someone
socialism can only work if you have the monies which comes when you grow capitalist
i support few of socialist policies like free education
And to become, or have, more than the other capitalism comes in first. Just like are apemen needed more sticks/tools/muscles to mate with more females etc etc. When one leader decides to help others it'd be socialistic
@Jordy But this really sucks for you Jordy, sorry to hear about that
09:37
I dont support uncontrolled capitalism which is US like
And I hope you know I'm not trying to be a smartass or such just tried to put things in perspective. Didn't know the situation was like that though...
@Jordy oh sorry to hear that
user443346
So yeah, maybe you guys can understand my doubts about this country. I loved it like 10 years ago - now, not so much.
user443346
Frikandelbroodjes are legend tho.
that is fine you can migrate easily
maybe germany?
you have EU dude
09:39
@Jordy But tax errors can be made in every country
I remember living in Spain for one year, elders got kicked out of their nursaries because the bank made mistakes
why dont you sue them or file a equivalent case?
It was huge on the news, they just pushed them on the street.
yikes
09:41
Meanwhile back home I heared people say how much they want to spend their retirement in Spain because 'it's all so much better'
Or how Spain got financial support for banks etc to stay alive, but at the same time let the pope fly into their country: the entire religious dollhouse-act costed appr 9 million euro
@Jordy sorry to hear that... How did it end?
@MwBakker what does this have to do with religion at all?
@ColdFire Because it did not add anything economicly beneficial to the country
Yet it costed 9 million, while at the same time elderly got kicked out of their homes
oh you mean the pope visit costed 9 million
09:45
but those 2 event are mutually exclusive right?
@MehdiB. badly probably. Our government only makes exceptions for 'refugees'
@ColdFire Well it was just an awkward sight having both situations on the news
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Or when they saved a football team financially.
09:47
@ManojPerumarath welcome. Please start by reading the rules and confirm you have read them before saying anything else.
@TimCastelijns normally there is a certain duration after which the taxes can't go after you
@TimCastelijns Unfortunatly this is true
hope they got to play that card
@ColdFire I saw that article and it was probably all fake, morocco was hiiiighly ranked... like I don't know moroccans...
oh most survey are fake so yes a possibility
i only considered the survey somewhat truth since the survey was pretty right on india pakistan bangladesh
@MehdiB. Maybe you need to socialize more :D
09:50
i can say for all 3 countries that we are pretty nationalist
@RaghavSood 😂😂😂😂
@RaghavSood xD
I would die for my country. Already just because people died for me as well
@mehdi couple of weeks back after a lot of going back and forth, the court decided that X and Y were to be 'deported'. It got national news coverage and then the secretary of state swoops in and says "actually I feel bad for them, I'm gonna overrule the court, they can stay" (there is more to the story but this is a tldr)
@TimCastelijns xD what did you expected ?
09:51
Maybe I won't be much of use but at least I'd try
I expected 0%
I have read and understood the rules
were they criminals?
user443346
09:52
Sure people make mistakes everywhere but it takes a special kind of stupid to let your own people down like this. Typical Dutch goverment who doesn't give a damn about his civilians - they do care about the multinationals tho.
No, this was because they were children
we have got this freedom after a lot of trouble and millions of indian sacrificing their life this aint going away
But the parent's used their children as some sort of joker to maintain asylum
i have a simple doubt, is our smart phone a DVM, or DVM is the emulator which we use?
It's a very nasty way of dealing with the situation. But ofc the ones who say "law=law" become the bad guys
09:53
^
They also do this at the mexican border, fake parents and fake children. Although Trump kinda messed up there, it is not his full blame it got that way
The blame still is at the fake parents who use children as some sort of joker/tool to avoid rules.
I personally think he fucked up by setting this precedent
i think immigration crisis is starting to screw Europe and in 1-2 decades you are going to start feeling the effect but just my opinion, but hey your country your rules
It's very nasty and very sad for the children involved
i hope i am proven wrong on this
09:55
Brb lunchtime
we already feel it CF. Who do you think is paying for all of them to live here
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@ColdFire Afraid you're right.
i dont wanna sound arrogant i just don't get why other countries fuck up has to be fixed by yours or mine or any other countries for that matter
no AH is not paying for it, they are just a supermarket
09:56
i mean america , russia and china fucked up a lot of countries
shouldn't they be fixing their mess?
user443346
^ if you say this in The Netherlands people would've called you racist already
user443346
not even kidding
true story
lol i am sure indian liberal would have called me racist by now
its just so common that i wear it with pride whatever liberals throw at me
i mean where is the rationality gone?
why cant we think straight for once?
or all spade a spade?

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