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but less crappy
Still a butterfly keyboard
in the MWC the keys looked more stiff and easy to use
@CptEric such poor config tho
i think it's membrane tho
14:00
hmmm
not butterfly
i think i saw the matebook too its good
I think I'd rather have a membrane keyboard than a butterfly one
Those keys are trash
I'd rather just have a reasonable laptop if I'm spending 4k on it
If I ever manage to buy a MBP again, I'll buy an external keyboard to use with it
14:01
I use mine with a USB keyboard usually
More because of the multiple displays than the keyboard being bad
I still have the old keyboard on device too
best think about the matebook X pro is that the screen is 4K & full touch
Meh
You almost never use it
yeah same as xps
I have a Surface Pro, and iPad, and Chromebook Pixel
i miss touch screen on my mbp
14:02
The touch is almost never used
The pen features are quite useful though, mostly for class notes
sometimes i just press the screen and it doesn't work and i go "dammm rite"
i wish surfaces pros didn't cost a kidney
Mine was free, it's great
Along with the iPad and Pixel
you always get free stuff
lucky man bot student
Don't get much free stuff anymore tbh
All of this is left over from 2013-2015
Oh
There is coffee in my hotel room
Sydney has been redeemed
14:08
By hotel you mean a server rack?
IHG Sydney
Analog interfaces enjoy some human comfort
Oh, this:
I'd probably buy a surface book if it ran linux well
Sadly, /r/SurfaceLinux indicates there is much work to be done
And you're running on battery saver mode?
14:13
I have a charger
And powerbank
And coffee
@WarrenFaith A company based in berlin message me through Linkedin, I wonder if it was yours lol
So you have a CEC installed? (Coffee to Electricity Converter)
I have been provided one by the hosting provider
I NEED COFFEEE
but we only have decaffeinated
Poor Eric
14:34
^
up up upvote ya go
why is this starred
Probably some of your corp. shills backing you up
@Ahmad sorry, herd instinct forced me
14:46
@Ahmad probably because the up denoted something else than what was intended by you
hm, it seems there was a picture which didn't load for me, so I replied with wrong context, so disregard my previous message if it doesn't make sense
@Ahmad Ah.
^
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impressive comment Eski!
Impressive comment contest!
^
14:49
^
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double kill!
☝︎
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You people (and bots) are crazy.....
and I <3 you for it :D
14:54
I feel so excluded
We are the normal ones Womp
<3
we cray
@Mauker okay… I'll just pretend I agree that I'm among these "we", just in case ;D
Now Raghav is crazy
Jun 15 at 13:39, by Mauker
CF better watch out, this bot is crazy
lol Sarge
Anyone here familiar with Chrome Extensions, Android/iOS apps, or Desktop (non-electron) dev?
In retrospect, maybe the android question was unnecessary
14:58
What desktop dev you talking about?
Any
As long as it is native
Apart from Electron lol
Cocoa, dotnet, qt
I've developed with C++ and Java for desktop
14:59
Dart? :D
Maybe, I'm not sure if dart qualifies as native
I have grand ambitions
I have determined that password managers are a mess
> "Desktop (non-electron) dev"

tried some GTK+, Qt and JavaFX in the past
15:00
Yes, Type-C, I'm looking at you ;D
I'm actually quite happy with type C and Thunderbolt
if you decide to make a new password manager, the killer feature should be not using clipboard and still be comfortable to use
type C is nice
I'm not happy that my OP5T has USB2.0 inside type-c
15:01
because clipboard can be read by any other application easily
It seems unlikely to avoid the clipboard entirely
so, integrate into Firefox directly for example, I guess
But we can likely reduce its use
I'm not happy, that thunderbolt dock not working in linux/macos
15:02
ideally if you can figure out how to use Clippy..
I'm not happy that every fucking cable differs in price and functionality
on github, can you create branch specific issues?
nope, afaik
don't think so
15:02
Nope
The worst thing - you can't open issue for fork
you could make a tag
even better if you write a new modern desktop OS which is not going to inherit all the common flaws of Unix/Windows that we were trained to accept as unavoidable
Let's start with something more achievable
@SargeBorsch waiting for fuchsia os
15:03
right now there's none I guess, perhaps with the exception of Qubes which (as I heard) is hard to use
not tag.."label" is the correct term
I loved chrome os when used chromebook
make a branch label to put the issues under Tim
I don't know enough about OS dev to make meaningful contributions
I might about passwords tho
The existing kernels are probably fine. Just need to solve the issue of different applications running under the same user
while leaving room for interoperability somehow
Android kind of does this, but will I say it's ideal? probably not yet
15:07
Kernels aren't fine, because they still support outdated hardware
and software that is built on top of legacy, aren't fine at all (yeah, X11, I'm looking at you)
this is being dealt with
X11 dependencies will be gone after some time I think
Come on, among all desktop OSes only MacOS handles hidpi screen correctly
For passwords, my main issues right now are:

1. There are a lot of password managers around - unless everyone you know uses the same one, you will end up with security breakdowns when sharing across managers
2. The open source ones are often hard to setup, come with limited team/family features, and harder to maintain. They also very often end up charging for rather basic functionality
3. Some implementations rely heavily on clipboards, or other insecure methods (OS dependent)
4. The easiest to use ones (LastPass etc.) have some form of centralization, and you really have to take their wor
I think we can solve several, if not all, of these to a reasonable extent
I'm not yet clear on how non-centralized sharing would work
@DimaRostopira nah, it's nearly the same, macOS just happens to have more software following modern guidelines
But it should be doable
15:10
@SargeBorsch really? You think windows handles that better?
Try using 3 screens with different dpi
and drag one window across them
I said nearly the same, not better. Had not tried different dpi though.
I prefer single monitor anyway
I use two vertical fullhd monitors and laptop screen
I'm already tired answering question like "Why do you need 2 27" screens? Are you hiding from coworkers?"
One women even took a video and posted on instagram
Buy another 23" one and keep it under your desk
wat? 0_o for what reason?
The next time they ask, take it out and beat them with it, while saying "No, so that I can hide this from coworkers"
Hmm. Maybe there's a reason people were happy I switched to remote work
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15:18
I just constructed a cardboard box for me
it can shape the field of vision in any way I want and I don't need to start using more monitors than I want.
actually it was made for other reasons, but it can be used for this too
@DimaRostopira why would someone do that. That's messed up.
@RaghavSood LOL Raghav :D
Aha, I can drop this math course
Don't need it, shan't take it
LMAO people
15:35
o/
o/
@RaghavSood "I feel" raghav said, as he passed the turing test
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little raghav had started to develop human feelings
I'm writing a book
15:38
Hier kommt der Traumbrecher
wow, glad to see things are still the same in here
and this is the first sentence
last comment XD
lmao carl
15:40
the starboard is at its best right now
Defining the core of r15
srsly
that's why i love this place <3
Ahmad, don't let my german hanging
you did good m8y
Ich habe keine Lust....
15:41
@Ahmad please do this
it's actually grammatically correct my dude
Listening to rammstein now Warren?
@eski ;D
@Ahmad I miss my german classes
always... at least when I am in the mood
15:41
I remember the last time I wrote a book
we can all help record it for audible
I'll be the saucy italian lady
you mean the dude who speaks in an italian accent
and wiggles around with his hands a lot
exactaly
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perf
15:43
hahahahaha
need a pizza
for scale
you have very fluffy hands mauker
very squishable
if thats a word
I hope somebody got the "exactaly"
LOL
I can't just let it go and miss out on some stars
15:48
mauker always delivers
<3
<3
I'm waiting for my lunch so I'm bored haha
@Ahmad My fiancee actually lived in italy for a few years
And she teaches italian
She actually does that hand thing all the time ok, a lot, but not all the time
@Tim Koin will work for Java
@Mauker Your commitment to jokes in this room is respectable.
Thanks Adam, I got that from you <3
15:53
lol nice
That drawing made me hungry tho
I know, I was so committed to jokes in room15 I permanently deleted something to ensure the joke would never die.
I wonder what thing it was
Oh yeah, now I remember
I think we're missing the key element to that joke
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Adam, you're a key part of r15 joke culture
15:56
@MarkO'Sullivan very good XD
@MarkO'Sullivan xD
@Mauker lol java
ppl are eating and my lunch haven't arrived yet
#sad
Hello, Android!
Hello, CA!
16:05
How you doing, mauker?
Hiya CA
Hmm, so much effort to plan out a degree
@Code-Apprentice Hungry 😬 But things are starting to work out
I suppose I should transfer the rest of my US credits
I can probably skip a bunch of courses then
Just remembered you're all developers. Never mind.
wrong copy past
16:09
@Mauker but aren't you making beaucoup money from your new job? You should have plenty to buy some food.
@Code-Apprentice I still had to pay the debt I had from past year shitstorm
But that's not why I'm hungry
There's a company that delivers lunch here, and they're late today
but two of my coworkers bring their own food
Even tho we have a kitchen here, I can smell it.
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HOLY BATMAN, I've missed a couple of releases of the new AS
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@Mauker how much debt have you accumulated?
Hmmm doesn't look like I've missed much
16:22
@MarkO'Sullivan dunno
@ColdFire Well, after three times I got robbed (using the term robbed, but not all of the three were actually a robbery)
idk, perhaps 10k USD?
But that's not all debt per say, that's the amount of money I lost in assets too
Thing is, I had bills to pay, and stuff to buy back to start working again
And I couldn't pay the stuff back then. The bank doesn't care, and the interest came hard
@Dan13_ too many questions, not enough answers. See our requirements here: room-15.github.io
@Mauker wow
I did lose a lot CF
and the first two months of this year I was at the hospital cause of my surgery
I couldn't work on freelances to help me pay that shit
Anyone here have recent experience with AR on Android
16:32
AR?
augmented reality
DC - Dream Crushed
@TimCastelijns you gonna work on an AR project? :O
16:41
The cake is a lie
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However, these brownies are definitely real
mauker.envy("raghav")
tentatively goes to spec out a new mac
a... new... mac...
NZD5090
Lol
closes tab
That's more than I pay in rent for 6 months
But think of the social status
16:45
Social status is for noobs who go outside
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You'd be no longer skynet... Behold iNet
Hmm
To be fair
The same spec will cost around SGD4000
And I'll get some 6% GST refunded since I'm now on a tourist visa in SG
wow nice
So it'll only be SGD3760
Which means I'm not buying one lol
This is ridiculous
lol
are you only just now learning that Mac products are expensive as fuck?
16:47
I'm only now coming to terms with the fact that I'm never going to do iOS dev, so I might as well save a few thousand a buy a cat down the road
what about a mac mini?
You mean the box that hasn't been updated in some 6 years?
I could get an Intel NUC at the same price with 10x the performance
@MehdiB. my girlfriend has requested I make a small app to help her find a job. It involves a bit of AR. She is looking for a job doing something she likes since August, so getting desperate
sorry to hear that... I thought she had landed a job already :/
I'm ready to learn and help, it's a field that interests me
16:51
SGD2,809.54 for a near-top X1 Carbon
Just doesn't include the IR camera and 1TB ssd
And no touch screen, but that's only another $200 or so
she does have a temp job, but it is ass
I feel like we should sponsor a flight so that Carl can fly down to Cupertino, go to Tim Cook's office, open up the price page for the Macs, laugh, and leave
^Me on Apple's pricing page
they hired her under the premises that she would be doing mostly stuff related to her field of study, but her boss makes her do more and more customer service tasks that any retard could do. She has a MSc btw
Once upon a time, I somewhat did AR, but I doubt I'll be of much help now
Happy to try, if you wish
damn, that's a classical dick move to beginners
16:55
^
yeah "it's just temporary don't worry" but today she told about some guy doing summer job there that is getting the interesting work now, that she should be doing
she needs to ask her manager to be involved with that guys project
so when the guy leaves in 1.5 months, she inherits everything
there is just the one boss, and a handful of employees
Time for a Coup
usually companies with a single boss (owner) are very bad for beginners
16:58
yes, I went through similar fuck shit
besides the fact they finally get to fill their resume
but she took the job out of necessity because she had been looking for 6 months already and we were in need of money
I understand, the good news is that now she has an experience in her CV / Linkedin
yes but it's mostly unrelated to the field she wants to work in
/shu
what is her field?
archeology?
17:03
not sure how you thought of that one out of the thousands of specialities out there..
<put inappropriate bone joke here>
she's a marketer, but there are a lot of fields in marketing
Advertising marketing psychology stuff
oh i see
@MehdiB. eric's girlfriend is in archeology. He probably thinks all europeans do the same work
17:07
that's the only logical explanation XD
@Mauker yah, debt sucks. I have student loans still. It's a huge problem in the US
pfft, just pull yourself up by the bootstraps with a small loan of 1 million $
17:13
^
@DaveS And to pay for that million, start selling blowtorches with a flamethrower casing at the internet
Or just ask daddy to forgive the loan if your business venture fails
it's official my 1st reddit post got ~double the upvotes of my entire stack overflow career
I'm now going to sell memes at $150/hr
@DaveS are you offering?
link
17:24
You just aren't trying hard enough on SO, Dave
i dont get it
Why is your nickname Cheetah Su?
Sythasu
im not hip with the kids anymore and their weird memes
lol strange name
17:25
Syth is an old gamertag, ASU was my college
you should keep your name as "SoonYouWillbeTiredofMyShit"
because Syth is commonly taken
@DaveS Who's flag is it?
England
I was jk Dave
17:25
and I don't get the whole Loss Meme...
For me at least, it's like a good pun, it's not really funny but you're in on it, so you get an upvote
holy shit 462 upvotes
dave has outdone himeself this time
@DaveS The part I don't understand is how a comic turned into a drawing with lines
I don't see the relationship between the two
After so much shit tiredom, Dave reached a higher level... Memer.
because it was parodied, then parodied until it was reduced to it's most basic parts
4 panels, 7 lines
17:29
oh...knowyourmeme.com/news/heres-to-loss-the-internets-greatest-meme I see, the lines are for each panel in the comic and the characters in each panel
yes
I read that knowyourmeme like 5 times and didn't get it...now it finally clicked
Dave, your meme is missing a blue background...
 
1 hour later…
18:51
Anyone here working with transitions?
in the past
Ever done parent-child transitions?
wtf is that?
It's when you stop identifying as an adult and you transition to a child so you don't have any responsibilities
18:57

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