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15:00
> Hi! My name is (what?)
My name is (who?)
My name is Slim Shady
Hi! My name is (huh?)
My name is (what?)
My name is Slim Shady
Hi! My name is (what?)
My name is (who?)
My name is Slim Shady
Hi! My name is (huh?)
My name is (what?)
My name is Slim Shady
not sure if I should flag that eric
i hope there aren't offended musical combo amateurs.
🤔
user443346
I'm leaving the office
user443346
I feel so insulted
user443346
15:01
Don't try to stop me :(
ok see you
hahaha
is hope flaggable? it's an intrinsic part of the philosophy behind most religions, hence atheist might find discouraging to enter a chatroom where a sentient being feels conditioned by the random atomical luck of something happening because the universe says so.
and, more importantly, can atheists be "hopeful"?
15:02
@Jordy but first... let me take a selfie this to meta
more info on channel 6
even eminem is tired of dave's poo.
excrement*
paragraph 2, after (Dude, can I get your autograph?) So I signed it
poo is the new [REDACTED]
looks quite better
and is kid's friendly.
15:04
good job so far guys. I am proud
how i feel SE looks right now
btw @MarkO'Sullivan how i imagine you irish feel about fake irish pubs everywhere: youtube.com/watch?v=tDTQQWSmo8s
everyone else can look, but this link is meant to be understood mostly by the people born in potatoland. with love, mark
thanks for the clarification, I thought you were discriminating about the non irish members, was about to flag that
that's why the mostly is important
time to go home
don't burn this room to ashes while i travel there.
has SO or that blog author made any comments on all of this?
15:13
Who cares
I guess our room is safe since we manage it well
With little controversy
yeah just curious
it seems like they haven't said anything during this
Yeah true
Didn't I said before PC is gonna screw the world soon enough
CF the visionary
SO is just another victim
15:43
back
front
left
right
dorsal
15:45
wut
woot
Morsal
@AdamMc331 facebook announced their dates service
is your job security ok?
15:48
Lmao
we can have our own cambridge analytica now?
Now I have Android and dating app experience. If Facebook doesn't hire me now, that's their fault.
Fb is gonna screw Adams ok
Wit
oh, dates, not data
15:49
i mean, match group shares fell 24%
only back to what it was less than 3 months ago though
Adam is gonna be hired by fb
Great
HIYA CARL!!!!!!! :D
O.o
Wompers are you really back?
15:51
No means no - rap against gender violence
has the translate thing
404
sarsly? it's youtube
what's gender violence?
i pop in from time to time - Carl
i can't find a good translation
w0mp, ideas?
15:53
^
Damn shitty internet here
like the chinese not keeping female babies?
@eski violence against certain genders?
That is all I could think of
yeah
more like against the rise of sexual attacks on women, and killing/hurting of partners ( both sexes) for "love reasons" instead of cutting the relationship.
well I hope your work slows down soon
15:55
oh, that's called domestic violence here
it's not domestic tho if it happens on the street by strangers right?
I mean for the second part
oh ok
the first part is called rape
yeah, well, the spanish judicial system does not share our views on that.
15:57
contra la violencia de general
Violencia de género -> gender violence
dunno how género turned into general.
I did that
Agree with eski same here
it's still weird to me to call it gender violence, either be more specific like "violence against women", or more general and just call it violence
culturally and legally "gender violence" contemplates any kind of agression or harassement from one gender to other (or the same) for the main reason of being an opposite, whereas rape is a subset, just as domestic violence
it's weird i know
16:01
Time to go~~
Cya later people!!! :D
cya w0mp
bye womp :(
Cya
Womp goes and world fell into despair again
The rainbows are gone, the children are sad, the unicorns are dead. We're truly doomed.
WHAT? THE UNICORNS?
NOOOOOO
16:09
I really like this spanish rapper
yeah, very nice
i prefer ska music tho
lyrics fast as rap, but with many instruments :D
rap seemed like it would be good for learning listening comprehension
yup
i think you already saw it, but, freedom of expression "warcry" rap from the top spanish rappers: youtube.com/watch?v=ySqxLQ-UsNo
you can hear almost all accents and languages in spain
16:24
cool, I hadn't seen it
this song came out after two rappers were sentenced to jail for their lyrics against the system and the head of state.
oh geez
didn't realize you guys had free speech issues like that
5.5 years for injuries to the crown, and 3.5 years for injuries to the head of state ( the king), each.
in contrast, 5 guys, 2 of whom miltary men, who raped a 18yo during the sant fermines bull run festival, got 9 years for it each just last week
a lot of issues eski.
you know you broke up the country's freedom of expression when you have El chojin ( right wing rapper ) and Boikot ( left wing rappers and ska singers ) on the same song side to side.
Doing well this year!
for a moment i thought that jordy posted it
congrats :D
did you like my irish pub song¿
16:39
tbf a lot of them recent ones were updating READMEs lol
?
i even tagged you
@eski i'm now super sticked to this style tho youtube.com/…
folk ska
it's super hipnotic, atleast for me
super relaxing and exciting at the same time.
perfect for coding
Sorry, I must have missed it earlier
I've been stuck on a RN component for like a week, gonna have to ask the other mobile dev who has more React experience to help me out with it
That's a really nice song btw
17:19
@MarkO'Sullivan How did you do that?
!/meow
> 404 - Cat not found
Been busy last year
WOAH
HOW DID YOU GET THAT YEARLY BREAKDOWN?!
found it at the bottom neat
I've pushed my commits
;D
awesome
jk plz don't kill me
17:39
Holy cow
well look at that
amazing Adam
Micro commits for the win! :D
lmao
Some days it's just 28 commits of me trying to get travis.yml correct.
tbf half of my commits from the past 2 days have been updating readme.md
see... Github stats are pathetic...
Reminds me a bit of this wget guy getting trouble in Canada for being able to count up
German newspaper told he basically just did `wget url/document00001" and counted upwards to download everything that is there... publicly
18:01
in this case they are public
and the blame should fall on whoever made them public on the server
hardcore hacking
there is just some "higher up guy" trying to cover his ass
exactly
what if someone just mistakenly typed "document00001" instead of "document00010"?
HACKER!
I mean adding some password system is not that hard
18:06
you can do that with php in no time! :D
there for people who are scared of having "php" in their browser history
18:21
welp
salary came in. no sick leave discount.
either i got a raise that covers the leave, or whoevr did the maths didn't do it okay
18:33
you don't get a certain number of days you can be sick and still get paid for it?
it's reverse lol.
here the first 3 days are unpaid, and every day is paid after them.
days 1,2,3 = 0€. day 4 to infinite = full pay like a normal work day.
was sick a week, should have been paid 3 days less, but i got them paid as a normal month.
Here 3 weeks/y paid, the rest 60% paid
spain is so goofy
that's what I've learned today
@AdamMc331 squash that mess
I didn't know squashing back then. I do now.
I need to get my coworkers on this bandwagon.
18:44
@eski and i learned the word goofy today :D
but I want to see how many tries it took you to get it right
dang mehdi, that's one of our best words!
Hahaha
uh hyuk
18:45
@eski spain in a nutshell.
@AdamMc331 the sport?
Tim XD
adam i have pixel issues
I need to find a new appartement on a quiet neighborhoud before the kids start playing and screaming in the streets in the summer
move to spain, low natality, no kids on streets
@TrappaKing Access denied. Please read the rules.
18:50
@CptEric Sorry no refunds
no no, no refunds.
@CptEric lol :D
i just can't cast my phone to my tv
the tv doesn't appear on the devices list
to cast
nor on the progress dialog to cast-able devices
i've never done this shit before on a phone. got any tip?
There you go throws 50 cents
is your tv on?
18:54
"cast: waiting for a device to cast to this tv. name = "eric's TV"."
and a spinner.
it does work with my 160€ tablet
This is going to be a good game of football
exactly what i wanted to cast
BC i don't have beIn sports
but i do have an app that gets a stream from somewhere near turkey.
in 2k
19:37
Can't listen internet too shitty :(
Yo
19:52
Anyone ever worked with making a textview or button selection states programatically, without using XML styles?

Basically, if you got back the button selection states from the server, how would you do it? Write your own TextView class and override onTouch or something?
Maybe this is what I want - stackoverflow.com/a/33986111/3131147
what does server have to say about button selection states
The server has to say text color, background color, and border color of the buttons on the screen.
All the copy/colors/images on this view are server configured. We just lay them out in the right order.
are you trying to AB test colors or something?
doesn't that mean you can't render certain screens until the API response is there?
I suppose that's true. We can probably supply defaults but still
20:07
Wait
Why is that difficult at all?
Because usually when you want to do something like this you can use a <selector> in XML to handle different states, but I'm trying to do it programatically.
Just get the color and set it through the methods
I think the linked SO answer might work after all, but I need to dig into the code again.
How would you handle changes when the view is pressed vs not pressed? An onTouch listener?
You can create a selector programmatically
usually this is a sign that you're building something weird
20:09
No just use a selector adam
@ColdFire Like this, right? stackoverflow.com/questions/32226232/…
This isn't something weird, it's me not knowing the right way to do it lol
I'll build a selector programatically based on the server response, and apply that selector to my view.
true
sorry for being offensive
I just finished a call with customer support of a proprietary tool we're using, because the license has expired (which shouldn't since it's a prod one) an they don't know what to do :|
fucking proprietary softwares
sue them
I'm just a freelancer, but my client is aggressively talking to them, so they'll probably consider that
down for 30h now
20:18
@AdamMc331 yes
6 hours ago, by Tim Castelijns
adam what's your view on adjusting the rules?
Well gn
what would you adjust?
> Everything kitty-related is allowed.
20:22
adjusting them to what?
sorry I've been behind in the hangouts chat was it discussed there?
ah yes, I know it's not a democracy, but I vote for this change
it was not discussed. I wanted to but nobody replied
adjusting to be more in line with what they expect of us
also the cat stuff
why the cat stuff
20:31
Hmm I'd have to revisit them closely after work but I'm open to making tweaks if we feel that's necessary.
that's CoC compliant
no, not the spamming, it's nsfw
once every 24h is fine, but 24 everyday...
everything cat related is allowed in a non spamful way(so enjoy, but don't abuse)?
way better than removing itç
there doesn't have to be a rule for this
there shouldn't be a rule either for ass bourbon, but it's part of the running trope that moves our miserable lives on and on on this hamster wheel we call life.
the trope being = fun stuff is fun. giggling a while is heatlhy.
20:41
I am more concerned about stuff that touch the rules they want us to enforce
we should remove rule 8 and leave the rules as they are. maybe add a report email or a RO "available" list for people feeling harassed.
that will be fully CoC compliant
not a single point of the starred post refers to images of kittens, hence rule 5 can stay. if somebody feels threatened by a cat pic, the removal o rule 8 will allow for him to flag it.
I agree with 8
I also think "Don’t use a default username" should go
i'm not sure
i'd ask a mod about that one
fairly certain this is discrimination
on system generated usernames?
20:48
I don't see them anymore since I ignored Reno, but:
1) I don't wanna increment this counter if someone else starts spamming as well.
2) I don't want to *have to* ignore members of the room.
3) I don't want to flag "non-hateful" messages
4) I don't wanna people to think I'm some kind of weirdo obsessed over cats
so we gotta find something moderate
it doesn't matter where the name comes from. If somebody wants to use a generated name, let them
moderate != removal of the whole bullet.
I agree with Tim
there's a high rep user who's been in SO for years who goes by a default username
fine but unpersonal. it's more a matter of manners to not leave default1234 as username
but well this is anonymous so it can pass
the rep limit can stay right?
exactly for that reason. Some people want to be anonymous
20:51
and the ratio?
I am fine with rep threshold, unless the boss-men tell us we can't do that
Apr 16 at 10:38, by Jon Clements
Well, the room's in gallery mode for a reason - it's up to the ROs to decide who they grant write access to. In popular rooms, there's generally a cut off amount of rep to show someone's experienced with the site and isn't going to be a complete help vampire and drain of people's time @NitinGohel
the ratio serves no purpose in my opinion
so I guess the rep threshold doesn't violate the coc
i think it filters out help vampires. but then again my ratio is like 3:70 so i'm not an average SO user
i don't know what a normal ratio should be
20:53
It certainly can do that. But I suppose it could also block a nice person who we could have nice chats with from ever having a chance
fair point
indeed. what if he's into some poorly designed tech like BLE and he has tons of questions that end up in the "nobody knows" bin? seems a fair point that that person should be allowed.
I mean another person like you and me, just to have another person to converse with. We have to be honest here lol, we almost never talk about tech
we do sometimes tho.
to maintain the appearance that we're productive beings in this society.
back to tech topics and now that jordy is away....
REALLY NOBODY IS EXCITED ABOUT THE OCCULUS GO?
I agree about letting anyone come in, in case it's a cool person, but wouldn't that add more work for ROs in case 9/10 turn out to be complete help vampires?
20:58
it's the only android powered device that deserves goddamn credit since ever
no I was only replying to the rule of Q:A 4:3
199€ for a stand alone, controller-driven, headset.
yeah just the QA mehdi
ah ok
also, life hack question: how do i make vegetables "looose" all the water from boiling=
?
relevant point 2 in the CoC: "Be welcoming, be patient, and assume good intentions"
we are currently doing the opposite
21:00
when i boil veggies for next day i always end up with my tupperware having a thin layer of water
we are welcoming and patient, our only admission rule so far is to write a string on the chat to be allowed in, given users have enough rep
i don't even think human managed request access petitions take in count Q:A ratio
but tim might lead us on it
we assume good intentions, and just ask users to read 30 seconds worth of "guidelines".
yes but you only get the chance to write that string if you meet certain requirements. These requirements are there because we assume bad intentions
not true, we assume good intentions on users with enough knowledge of stack overflow to know how to fish for answers, this is not an official or unofficial Android support room but a Android developer community. else we would be rich google employees on a public slack channel
> Before you ask a question here, first thoroughly research it yourself, and post it on Stack Overflow (or another appropriate Stack Exchange site, like programmers.se). We also expect you to read the Android developer site before asking a question about Android.
we haven't had new posts in the blog since july 2016
yeah I believe the idea is to assume good intentions from any arbitrary user. Not only those who have already have the stats to show they are "worthy"
we all have mediums now :(
as jon the ninja chiuaua mod stated, we can have access restrictions on the room gallery.
look at mehdi's reference
we should re-ask incase this changed maybe
yes I was here when he said it
21:09
but it'f fairly unfair.
but he is an elected mod, and the guidelines that the stack overflow team provide partially confilct with his statement
we're not a gated community, the rep threshold is very low already, i had to get 100 reps
we should re ask then.
"can "request access" rooms keep their access restrictions after this enforcement?"
it would be fairly unfair to have to remove it, though.
currently it looks like it is going to be their way or the highway
but indeed we need more clarity
I don't think jon can provide it since he does not work for SO, but I can try anyway
he can atleast contact those who can answer if i'm not wrong
i love/hate law debates
they're so boring/entertaining
and have so many interpretations.
I love/hate having to take initiative in matters I only have a very small say in
yeah there are always grey areas
21:18
i hope SE corp® understands that people might feel threatened a little bit by the lawful enforcement of goodness.
totally not distopian at all.
lol, yeah, I didn't sign up for this shit doodie
there's a totally unrelated RPG game called Paranoia
> The game's main setting is an immense, futuristic city called Alpha Complex. Alpha Complex is controlled by The Computer, a civil service AI construct (a literal realization of the "Influencing Machine" that some schizophrenics fear). The Computer serves as the game's principal antagonist, and fears a number of threats to its 'perfect' society.
don't know it
> The players, called Troubleshooters, are clones set up to solve troubles, dangerous people, and external influences to the perfect society the AI has built.
anyway cya tomorrow
21:23
cya tim, have a good night
i should sleep too
there's a very good anime called "Psycho Pass"
> The story takes place in an authoritarian future dystopia, where omnipresent public sensors continuously scan the mental states of every passing citizen. Collected data on both present mentality and aggregated personality data is used to gauge the probability of that citizen committing a crime, the rating referred to as that citizen's Psycho-Pass.
Night!
night mehdi. yup, that's paranoia the RPG 3rd edition esque
the AI can scan your mind and you gotta hide with a dice check your secrets
else your clone is discarded and you get to revive into a new one.
i wrote my 5 cents onto "The topic".
what version of Paranoia is SE running on? just to update my character sheet. The Machine is good, the machine is fair. Now on topic, i hope there's, uhm, moderation, from all sides. nanny distopic digital governments isn't my top choice of community, not at first atleast. anarchic harassing conversations isn't either okay, though. a middle ground that respects culturally diverse environements (specially those away from the american way of living) would be prefered. — CptEric 3 mins ago
Doctor of databases
21:35
and now to sleep
I want to ping Mehdi but pinging for help is bannable
what do you need?
i am dressing myself with my pijamas but i can still rationalize
A free remote database host to store low amounts of data for a kotlin project
Firebase for low amounts of data is preciously easy to use
specially with android
you have 0.5 daily millions of queries for free
that's the only soft cap
Not android just kotlin
21:39
firebase firestore is the one to go, not firebase realtime
the 2nd one has limits on bandwidth, not on queries. it's less fair
I though about it but I only have 1 reader and 1 writer and don't need the sync stuff. Seemed overkill
give it a try. i've used it in kotlin for a realtime chat, needed just an afternoon to have my own whatsapp set up
Data unlikely to go over 1mb
I am familiar with firebase
hmm. is there any free realm cloud version?
nope, 30 bucks a month
damn expensive
now, to sleep. good night
I would prefer no aws or anything. It can be really lightweight
Wait a second
I used to develop backends for a living. I'll just make one on free tier plan at google
Actually also overkill
22:56
Heroku?

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