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18:02
heya, womp and reno
Still waiting for that bixby update...
@Code-Apprentice you gotta set it to different locations then
sometimes when I'm bored I set it to nyc
o/
TODAY WAS A FINE DAY
a good day in a long time
yay \o/
\o/
@Ahmad Do chicks fly from NYC to wherever you are to meet you?
18:07
no
but I'm in nyc a lot
I don't travel much
you should
it's the best
you should change your name to Uhmad?
yah, I plan to do so more this year.
cause all the ex-bfs you makin jealous
18:08
attend conferences! freelance and travel around the country!
you're a US citizen
you can do that
Wooooooooooompers!
unlike me who has to go through an interview for a intern visa
HIYA CARL!!!!!!!!!!! :D
I'm getting some good experience at my current job.
18:09
carl and womp's morning/evening exchanges always make me smile
so I'll stay here a little longer.
that's awesome :D
you doing android?
uuuh nice
aaah
18:10
react and stuff?
the good times
yup, react and django mostly
don't troll, Womp :D
now that the coldfusion project is mostly finished.
18:11
well.. i enjoyed more doing web things than what i'm doing now
wait, what are you doing now?
some microsoft erp thing (AX2012 and friends)
🙀
oh yikes
but we believe in you
18:13
@Code-Apprentice awesome! I just started learning react and it's so good
React/Redux is a great combination...when used correctly
haven't looked into redux yet but that's next
wtf eclipse???
what a nice message
real question is
why are you using eclipse
because it's very simple, smooth and fast and doesn't need to be configured to use maven and stuff like that :D
you can use intellij with maven
@MehdiB. Error 🛑
4
literally that XD
why does intellij takes 4 seconds to build a hello world, though?
I love React.
18:24
@MehdiB. You mean javac ain't good enough for you?! Spoilt brat
hahaha
@Ahmad I want to build a React app for my baseball card API. I'm stuck on the whole design phase, though.
I know that feeling
design is so hard
I don't even know where to start...
I started a "responsive design" course on Udacity, but I don't think it contains the content that will help here. It seems like it is more low-level html and js.
Don't get me wrong. The concepts are certainly what I need to learn, but I for the baseball card site I have in mind, I need more of the artsy side of design, not the technical part.
Okay data binding is growing on me this is neat
so much unused code now
er
so much removed code
18:29
bad adam
repeat after me: data binding sucks ass
6
wat
realm sucks ass
7
woah sorry that was autocorrect
hovers cursor over ban button
@Ahmad We use React/Redux very successfully for our front end, Node for the backend
sweet!
18:34
oddly enough we use django for our backend
seems weird to me after I learned that react uses node anyways
that is kind of weird
Both DataBinding and Realm suck ass
So, you're even. Now kiss and make up.
Although probably wash your mouths first
lmao
and after
Bum bumbummm
18:43
Hey Mauk <3
Hiya Mauker!!! :D
tristan <3
Carl o/
Hiya Wompah!!! :D
> User mauker has been blocked for 1 minute for spamming
@TimCastelijns gonna apply to your company tonight
The old one or the new one?
18:50
Why not both?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The one he mentioned
@W0MP3R :o absurd!
Kay :(
jk womper don't be sad
18:55
too late now
:(
I know how to fix this
user image
2
so cute
time to go
Cya tomorrow people!!! :D
Have a good one
lol
cya womp
@TristanWiley good luck, which office?
19:00
Uh, not sure. Whichever is available, I only briefly looked at the page and listings.
cya
welp good night people
night cf
@TristanWiley we only have 1 office in the US I think
@TimCastelijns I'm fine anywhere :P
19:22
Come to brazil then Tristan
@DaveS oldy but goody
19:37
@TristanWiley In my experience that does usually follow the kissing yes
oh man, we are moving into brand new office space designed by Starbucks store designers on Monday. Just got a tour and it looks amazing.
Update: After converting my little sample feature to data binding I can in fact say that it does not yet suck ass. Tim is misleading us.
:O that's awesome Carl
@AdamMc331 "I've taken a feature and implemented it in a very small and ideal test case and find no fault with using it at a production level despite never having done so"
lmao
go back to your china team
they've been fired for years brah
19:49
years
have I been in this room for years
you literally just said it was 3 years since you met tristan here
omg
I've been in the room for just over 3 years
wild
omg
shit
I love you
19:51
I love you too. <3
The argument I have heard against data binding which is the most convincing to me is that it mixes business logic with view logic.
Who wants to be my friend?
gross
you shouldn't put business logic in your data binding though
19:52
It worked for Tristan....so I want to give it a try ;-)
how do you unit test your XML? :P
what's a unit test?
Who needs unit tests?
rofl
20:09
lmao
gotta write those JUnit tests for school
sup guys
@AdamMc331 :o
Haven't heard that one in a while
So @TimCastelijns I'm applying for a front-end internship in Amsterdam
20:19
lmao
more like hamsterdam amirite
I'll see myself out
I miss having a hamsterdam
Reno bot cron job kicked in
Thank you for your service sir
Oh noes. Catduel
Reno's ready to fight. Tristan, you're up
20:25
I'm too sleepy to fight
anyone here do Xamarin?
Ew Xamarin
20:26
I know
we don't do it but I have a potential lead for anyone that does
I once took a look at it
but today I'm a changed man
where?
side job
remote
Why not React Native?
20:27
yeah, but where?
because it's an unfinished app that needs to be finished
don't do it mauker
have some self respect
I'm asking so I can burn the place to the ground
20:29
oh, he hired a cheap developer because we were too expensive
then came to us 4 weeks before he launches asking us to save him
@DaveS cM does Xamarin and he's actually looking for a new job
@codeMagic oh boy do I have the job for you
lol
Does it have any BLE?
I hope so
but no
20:30
XD
So it's not for cM
@TristanWiley nice! actually the office is in hilversum, but nobody knows that city so they call it amsterdam HQ
Sweet!
Ahhh nooo, cover letters
> Please be attentive to the requirements for this role and accompany your resumé with a short motivation letter, detailing why you’re the right Monk for this internship.
dude, you've just started your student life and you're already tired of cover letters? XD
do they have mobile internships?
20:32
Nope, but that's aight.
@TimCastelijns Are you looking for a new job?
I'm currently doing front end development so this is good for me too
I'll gladly do mobile, but I'm not at all against frontend
Tristan's one step closer of becoming a designer
@Mauker He is applying at the company I work at lol
I know I was jk
20:33
I've been thinking of dying my hair
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
anyway will you move here or?
we can be friends, you can forget about adam etc
That reminds me of the time that Ahmad got a job offer at microsoft, while he was at microsoft
I mean if I get the internship and get paid enough to live in Amsterdam for a summer I'll move.
well that won't happen, but maybe a cheap ass town nearby
It was like "I'm glad you reached me for this job offer, but I'm happy with my job at Microsoft"
20:34
Well I mean, enough to live near the office. Idc where
Probably some AirBNB, or a small apartment, or Tim's basement.
amsterdam is expensive AF, but the office is like 50km SE of amsterdam
he runs monkey experiments in the basement I heard
So you can refer me?
not sure xD I have been here for like 2 days
20:36
LMFAOOO oh
So should I not mention you in my letter? lmfao
> How did you come across this position?
I heard about you from someone who's worked there for two days.
lmao
you can mention how you heard of the company through me I guess, but my name doesn't really have any value to the person hiring
Yeah got it
by that I mean they have 0 clue who I am
20:39
hey - that's me
bla bla.. will benefit us in the future.. bla bla
@AdamMc331 that is like every programmer ever...
plz get me interview
well, those who are passionate about programming and not just doing it for a paycheck
Like Raghav and his bot
How'd you apply Tim?
20:44
my girlfriend showed me the job opening, I filled out application, got assignment to show skills, showed skills, got interview later that week
Oooh nice
got an offer the morning after the interview. It was nice, I accepted the initial offer
"We offer something better than your old... Realm."
and I am very happy here
the senior who guides me is brilliant and he is very patient with me
20:50
Oh Tim, I'm glad you're enjoying your new workplace
It honestly sounds like an incredible company
anyone here ever heard of a company named arctouch?
the only downside of working here is that I'm pretty much the dumbest person in the room and I have to ask about stuff all the time
give it another 2 days and you'll become the rockstar and will start looking for a new job because not challenging enough :D
That's not a downside
That's the biggest advantage
20:54
I have some difficulties admitting I don't know something and have to disturb someone to explain it to me
It will take a few days to get used to the code
I'm confused on how long my cover letter should be
I am in my 6th week currently
Like a couple sentences? A paragraph? Two?
Gahhhh
2 paragraphes
20:55
tell a bit about your background, and what you are looking for, and why you think you will find it at that company
or not
especially what makes you a good candidate
cover letters are about selling yourself and showing how good you are and what valuable things you can bring to the company
aw
cover letters are annoying
21:10
Aight applied
good luck bruv
I found out why CRAP was rolled back, so can I remove the pin?
alright im off to bed
@eski I noticed it's no longer used as frequently as a few years ago
21:12
remember to moisturise more that your gf would
@Reno Why?
because it makes your skin nice
No, not the moisture
alright bye :D
21:16
bye
is SO down?
Not here
loaded, thanks!
some little bitches just killed me
No problem!
Hey ghost Tim, what happened?
21:40
Finally! queue created! the server is hanging but that's okay for now
21:54
Just add more servers
yeah, before that I gotta see why is my message not being consumed :D
I really should just rename my permission instead of waiting for Samsung to fix Bixby
My app is getting some free press at least ;-)
lmao
no way CA, you were here first
I love the idea of a small pebble making the Samsung giant move
@Code-Apprentice What's your download chart looking like these days
22:09
Looks like I had a spike on the week when this whole thing first broke. But the last 30 days is only up 15% from the previous period.
well it's a niche product, and that's not very targeted advertising
you're hitting that small intersection of people that want to try reproducing a samsung bug, and also collect baseball cards
thats the probably the most niche intersection of two categories in the real world I've encountered
for the audience of XDA is almost all the former
and then they immediately uninstall it
or not...since if they reproduce the bug it doesn't even install in the first place
@Code-Apprentice did they discover it on their own? Or did you reach out to them?
maybe they're room 15 lurkers
22:15
XD
I'm sure there's some of those, too.
That's for the free version
@MehdiB. I just ran across this today. I assume they saw the Commons Ware blog article.
Ah yes, i forgot that he wrote an article about it
I have this tendency to apply to places and get really excited because the company seems perfect for me and then get my hopes up. Aka what's happening right now.
@TimCastelijns lol
Okay data binding isn't working now I hate it
22:22
so mercurial
next you are going to be loving Realm
you're not worthy of databinding you fair weather coder
I'll figure it out lol
oh nailed it
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A: Android data binding with Kotlin, BaseObservable, and a custom delegate

ephemientYou can annotate the default getter or setter without providing a body. var bar: String by Delegates.observable("") { prop, old, new -> notifyPropertyChanged(BR.bar) } @Bindable get There is a shortcut annotation use-site target which does the same thing. @get:Bindable var bar: String...

i was annotating the field itself, not annotating the getter
databinding rules
lol
22:27
using data binding for 24 hours and already getting into weird edge cases
Have people programmed for 24 hours without hitting a weird edge case before?
I've heard about it in legends, but assumed it never really happened
Despite being a niche app, there is a larger market out there for my baseball card app. A competitor has 10k-50k downloads. But then they are also an established company in the baseball card market in general. And a very well known name.
They didn't have an app when I first made mine. They caught up to me while I've been slacking off the last couple of years.
I recognize their name
I think I had a book when I was a kid
got a lot of 1 star reviews...
for my Greg Maddux collection :)
22:31
nice
I need to spend more time on my app and make it better than theirs.
You cannot make up your mind like that adam
Once you say you hate something, you have to hate it for at least 30 days
@CptEric We have this lager in our fridge from Barcelona called Daura. Heard of it?
22:52
thats a cute snarl

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