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18:02
Hey everyone! I created a Giving Tuesday fundraiser to support a non profit that I volunteer for called Hacker Fund! If any of you are interested in contributing, it would mean a lot - facebook.com/donate/149800008988018/10211010609482493
FB is waiving all donation fees today too. :)
Is there any way to donate that doesn't involve facebook?
Hmmm not through the one I posted unless they have a direct way on their website and I'd have to check.
18:06
there ya go
I'll throw something in, but I am pretty vehemitly anti facebook
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o/ foamy
its not friday yet
That's fair, Foamy. Thanks! :D
Hello, Android!
\o @FoamyGuy Haven't seen you for a while
18:09
whats up CA
hit a pretty busy period at work lately, and we got a couple more developers now so I don't come running to the room to ask about things when I am stumped as much =p
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wat
Go home, feeds.
wow
realm feeds started working
tim would be happy
We really don't need realm feeds in this chat do we?
like, I like Tim and all, but we don't have direct feeds for anything except Android
18:17
I can replace it with an Android Essence feed ;P
How about a Samsung feed
so we're up to date on what phones not to buy
val shouldBuy = (phone.model == pixel)
easy way to remember
Anything else is bad
what is the replacement of tertiary operation in kotlin?
kadam^
18:23
val shouldBuy = (phone.model == pixel && phone.model.version != 2)
2
In Kotlin if/else can be used as an expression CF
val boolAsInt = if (myBool) 1 else 0
whooptie do, you've made Java more like JavaScript have a cookie
I don't want cookies those are for web devs
and so are garbage languages like kotlin
#shotsfired
wow
WOW
18:25
lmao
Yes, Kotlin is going to overtake every language, Dave.
@AdamMc331 wow that is good but not as good as tertiary tho
why though
it's basically a reinvented tertiary
18:27
I used to feel the same way, but in hindsight
if/else is way more readable than a question mark and a colon.
a point
o/ neb
is kotlin a thing now?
I need to pick it up
Kotlin is great. :)
18:30
our 2.0 is going to be all kotlin all the time
:D that's awesome.
i had to a look and it feels like java, typescript and python got together and made a language baby
> i had to a look and it feels like java, typescript and python javascript, php and objective C got together and made a language baby abomination
what in the world
Dave are you okay
18:37
lol
Don't listen to Adam. He's delusional.
I'm killing time before a voice conference call that I'm fully prepped for
and maybe a little drunk
Adam is basically a guy you never take advice from, have you seen his blog icon?
lol
ok why is the support library ahead of official release?
is android 8.1 released?
18:49
lol Dave
Do you want me to change my blog icon? HM?
well i ordered a earphone from amazon money got deducted but amazon is showing payment not received
welp screwed up :/
no no Adam, that icon is a masterpiece it would be a shame if society lost it
Adam, where do you host your blog? On github?
18:58
I have a VPS hosting package through namecheap.
ca ne me surprendrait pas
sorry wrong chat
now that is surprising
you have another chat?! :O
hahaha! just work chat, wouldn't betray this chat
18:59
I have a domain name with namecheap but haven't used any of their other services.
Are you in France, Mehdi?
wait! so you actually understood that sentence? XD
I'm in Morocco
Oui! J'ai étudié pendant huit ans (but not long enough to remember all the accent shortcuts on mac)
wow! that's super rare to meet an american who knows french!
lol yeah it's not as common here.
Problem is I haven't taken a class in 2+ years and I don't use it on a daily basis so I'm rusty. When I see it, I can still read it clearly. Writing and speaking it is tough.
19:02
lmao adam the translator
That's awesome Adam! I'm sure that it would be helpful to put on your CV if you're targeting corporates
so you can deal with Quebecois clients
I can! I live very close to french speaking canada haha
I do have it on my resume that I have a minor in french language & literature. Not many interviewers ask about it.
french speaking canada
i thought canada was english? :thinking:
It is
Overwhelmingly, but Quebec still has a lot of french speakers and geographically is not far from me.
man... don't put "minor" on your CV, you'll be the most fluent person there
just put "Fluent in french" XD
19:05
didnt US has lots of spanish speaking rather than french?
lmao nooo
I think it does CF, but I don't know the stats on it.
etbay youyay ancay'tay igurefay outyay isthay ecretsay anguagelay
lol dave that is gibberish^
Dave, you give us enough of a headache in English. Please don't use pig latin.
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I have a friend in the US, who speaks En/Fr/Sp, can't tell you how this guy is at the center of most projects :D
19:06
agree with adam
i know people in US who dont know english xD
how do they communicate?
beats me
Poorly
19:07
hands sign perhaps
Some of you in here speak better English than people who live here.
It's awful.
Nothing like anti-immigration people in this country who can barely speak their own language but are so quick to criticize everyone else. :|
uildbay ethay allway
true but i am not anti immigration because they cant speak our language
sometimes I read tweets and don't understand a single word of them, then I realize it must be slang or some street talk
lmao
There's a subreddit for like scottish twitter or something and it's the best thing ever
19:10
lol mehdi
what does this even MEAN
Also I just noticed this, why are both of these from the exact same date wtf
LOL well photoshopped?
@AdamMc331 how do these people communicate then?
19:13
They understand each other, somehow. lmaoo
Also you just get better at understanding what people mean, even if it's not perfect.
oh that is true
we have so many people here who spoke broken english
lmaoo
19:16
lmaoooooooooo
I've seen similar, but with a guy at the end holding a sign that says "Engineer"
that'd be me.
> if this your is teacher 4th grade and school you teaches for she can. For 100,000$ would you do it?
found it ^ what does this means?
lmao that's a classic meme
it's intentionally unreadable
ah XD
it's supposed to be stupid and you just laugh at it and move on lmao
19:17
lmao
it annoyed me that I didn't understand it XD
dammit google event is coinciding with a party of mine that i have already paid for :/
that hedgehog looks like it is in heaven
loss.add( monies);
19:33
If it was allowed, I would have 4 pets: a hedgehog, a capybara, a penguin and a sloth
lmao this answer^
hey @AdamMc331
i figured the room stuff xD
figured out*
somebody needs to write out a doc for this stuff, there s no documentation on room
I'm resisting the urge to tell you what db lib has a good documentation XD
19:45
plz don t
please*
No worries, I won't
they only have good documentation because I complained to them that their examples didn't work
haha! can't imagine the future of a company who doesn't satisfy your requirements :D
considering room relations are pretty dumb
are we supposed to implement complex relations in code?
19:54
I saw that carl
@MarcinDeszczynski I have a getting started blog post but I don't think it covers everything you ran into - androidessence.com/android/…
nice carl
can i write a custom insert query in room
yes
I use a custom delete query to delete all records
one sec
that has a more logic than just unique, i basically want to set two fields as unique but with an AND relationship and not OR
20:03
@AdamMc331 sudo rm -rf *
You can use this idea, but modify the method to accept the params you want, and then change your query code to use it - https://github.com/AdamMc331/CashCaretaker/blob/develop/app-refresh/src/main/java/com/androidessence/cashcaretaker/data/AccountDAO.kt#L24

TL;DR -> Instead of the insert annotation, annotate it with query and do whatever tf you want.
ya i just realized
@DaveS I'm not falling for that again.
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sudo rm -rf ~/Documents/KeystoreBackup/
20:06
lmao did mauker make that?!
no raghav made that
Maukery didnt
I didn't realize Raghav had a sense of humor
got a sample insert query for room adam?
INSERT INTO table VALUES :objectVar
someting like this ?
hmm
Here is how you use the parameters in a select query - github.com/AdamMc331/CashCaretaker/blob/develop/app-refresh/src/…
actually, it doesn't have to be :arg0 I think that's what Kotlin makes you do because of a weird interrop issue. The official docs say you can use :paramName
i wonder if i could just pass the object
or if i need to pass the :objectVars directly
20:13
hmm
that is a great question that I do not know.
trial and error time!
brb ll report back
Kotlin is fun
no it's not, Kotlin: not even once
20:14
kotlin has lots of fun
It's all fun and games until Carl comes and crushes your dreams.
My niece wants to know: if she donates her hair to Locks of Love, and the recipient of her hair commits a crime and leaves hair at the crime scene, will her DNA be found all over the crime scene and thus incriminate her? She's 12.
valid concern
indeed
20:19
> Hair is made from keratin which has the same structure in all human beings. DNA is only contained in the root of the hair (the follicle) - so unless you rip out your hair by the root to donate, your DNA will not show up in donated hair
Here's a trump joke: He's president
so shave your head and use fake hair to fool drug tests?
CF that is beautiful
20:20
damn that is a mega roast
lmao
lmao this one is good too^
tho this one is not roasting trump^
could be a rick roll^
it's not this time, I know I earned that reputation
ask Tristan
20:26
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A: What is Trump's plan to get the United States out of trillions in debt?

MachavityThe simple answer is... there isn't one. A lot of this has to do with what the budget is spent on, and most of it is considered sacrosanct. Here's a Federal Budget Breakdown Defense - 16% Social Security - 24% Medicare and other health programs - 25% Safety net programs - 10% Interest - 6% Vet...

and we have a tim commenting there too^
> Defense - 16%
Education - 3%
lol
seems like US debts problem is going nowhere
lol yeah 16% on defense is crazy
we have close to 2.5% and people still complain here
We spend more on the military than the next seven countries behind us combined or something.
yup adam that is true
well we also have to consider how big the US military is and their tons of over seas bases
that must require a lot of monies
LOT of monies
20:35
Unless we sacrifice defense or basically agree to fuck the lower & middle class, the only real way to resolve the budget is tax the rich, but they basically funnel enough money in to not do that.
Huge amounts or money
oh cM is here
Billions and billions
btw cM trevor noah is much more biased than John Oliver
Indeed, the magic is here. Can't you feel it
20:36
i found john oliver to be lot better in that regard
Don't know who he is but probably sucks equally as much
I miss Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert tag teaming CC
And I can't really imagine anyone being more bised
i mean John Oliver atleast criticize democrats sometimes
@DaveS leftist or rightist?
@codeMagic the daily show guy
Jon Oliver seems to make a good faith effort to get it right, even if the content he covers suits his world view
Trever Noah isn't really watchable imo
20:38
yeah too biased
i just watch for the fun and trump bashing
The only good democrat talk show host I can recall was David Letterman
Jon Stewart is a leftist but honest and open minded imo
Stephen Colbert played a satirical right wing pundit that did a good job of pointing out the rampant hypocrisy on networks like Fox
leftist and honest o.o they are a rare breed atleast here
very interesting to watch the same anchor slam Obama then praise Trump or Bush when they do the exact same thing
yeah heard a lot about fox news
20:45
^^ Party loyalty is one of the biggest problems we have in this country.
Could I use firebase to develop a server for my app?
There are too many people on both sides obsessed with believing their side is right and leaving it at that.
yup ^
@Curio You can, but I haven't used it for anything beyond a pet project so I don't know how scalable it is or what problems you might run into.
20:47
I'll send the positions to all the users to the database and I'll show them in the map of the app
I bet FB can be used for that stuff.
@AdamMc331 oh we getting to the same point here
It's awful CF.
I can admit when I'm wrong, and when someone else is right. If only everyone was able to do that and we could actually have discussions.
well our left wing is so bad i literally have no choice but to support the right wing
but i do actually appreciate when left they are right
Thats how I feel about the right in the US right now
20:49
Fine, thanks
day by day our left wings get worse they have shown their true colors
maybe we had good left leaders before
Sounds the same just backwards. Damn eastern hemisphere.
current one are bunch of crooks that i wouldnt trust with my society gate
let alone the country
and we have no centrist party :(
I wish we had more than two parties in this country. I mean, technically we do, but none that stand a fighting chance.
our leftist government did so many scams worth over 200B$
still new scams get unearthed everyday
20:53
Mac, I think part of the reason for that is that you don't hear about these other parties until election time. If they would seem more present in other years and try to drive up support that way, they could get more of a following
wait isnt US 2 party system?
Not necessarily
It comes down to that and, other than election years, we pretty much are
also i think multi party system is shit we got so many bad parties operating in india
But there are nominees in other parties if they can get enough votes early to be on the ballot
overriding a custom view is such a pita
20:57
i see cM
sorry didn't mean to interrupt your debate*
Suuuure, you didn't mean to
lol
i have heard many times US is just a 2 party system
well info updated
effectively it is
20:59
alright, if I'm being political, I hate the left and the right equally, what I like about the left is the fact that it's "supposed" to care about people and social issues and what I like about the right is that it's "supposed" to encourage entrepreneurship and help businesses prosper
I broke the internet
CA sorry not in asia atleast
I think you need a common sense fact based approach to government, not ideology and I'll support whichever party seems to support education and a scientific based approach to policy
^ yeah but that hardly happens
right but the other stuff is less consequential to me as long as the needle moves that way
I'm a moderate and I'd consider voting for the right if they got off the religious high horse and climate change denial
but they never do
21:02
yeah climate change denial was hilarious
no left or right in india denies climate change
i would say the current right wing government is doing more to deal with global warming than our left government did
good
full on focus on electric cars , renewable energies , less usage of fossil fuel , closing of old coal power plants
@codeMagic Well they also need like 12% polling to get in the presidential debates which is such a scam. Imagine if three, four people were getting up there instead of just two who do nothing but attack each other?
That limitation is such BS
ofcourse india is developing so currently indian cities are generating lots of pollution
21:06
but yes, I think the amount of media coverage and big money involved in campaigns prevents anyone who's not a major party candidate from standing a chance.
the two party system keeps it in place on purpose
@DaveS climate change is the biggest scam in the history of mankind
The scientific data disagrees with you, and very obviously so Mehdi
21:07
What's science?
the thing you cant understand apparently
ouch
"What's science?" - 2017 in one question
lol adam
@AdamMc331 that's why I mentioned they needed a certain amount of votes
21:07
the rate of change in atmospheric composition and temperature is beyond anything seen in histroy, it's confirmed in multiple models and multiple approaches
by data, you mean the little numbers pulled by a long bearded guy on some basement called lab?
I do think there needs to be some restriction but I also think it is a little high
it's comparable to evolution in terms of scientific evidence
I'm talking about ice core analysis and mineral analysis
@MehdiB. Are you describing scientists or most database admins?
real science
21:08
hahaha
lol
also i think pulling out of paris treaty was stupid on part of trump
Ok guys, for anyone dropping by this room, I'm just kidding, the above was all sarcastic
well i guess that is what many supporters of trump wanted
/shrug
never know Mehdi
Real people speak this way here
21:10
haha!
I don't care about a lot of things, but I certainly do care about the only place where the humankind can live on
how can you be sarcastic when clearly climate change is a scam
@AdamMc331 omg amazing
lmao Raghav made that ages ago
CF - you just made my brain do a recursive call with a non-exit condition
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21:12
you can compare it to rick-rolling Rick Astley himself
or Dave for that matter
@DaveS wait isnt US mostly christain so what is religious high horse thingy?
^ there's a signficant percentage of Christians in the US who aren't very good Christian and use it mostly as justification to deny climate change, evolution and social rights
@cygery just tested this, it's confirmed
thanks
I wonder what the code (and revisions) behind that bug looks like
an update/install procedure that creates a blank root account with no password then runs root commands then doesn't cleanup after itself
21:26
oh
sounds like a bad thing to do indeed
anyway, time for bed, good night :)
gn
time for bed for me too
gn folks
good night, cf and cygery
21:59
o/
https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47541559/android-apps-and-games
22:39
@AdamMc331 I need to make a new keystore, can you tell me what you did so I know what not to do?
23:25
He did forget to back it up
tru
23:55
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