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15:01
@AdamMc331 yes. "please become an instructor on our website"
> Hi Tim,

I'm Nina, Head of Teacher Operations here at Skillshare. I came across your profile on Stack Overflow this weekend and was really impressed by your experience. I was wondering if you had ever thought about teaching online? I think you could teach a great UI/UX class.

In case you’re not familiar, Skillshare is an online learning community of over 3 million students. A typical Skillshare class consists of 15-60 minutes of pre-recorded video content, broken into short segments. Our teachers are professionals from around the world who teach on Skillshare to earn passive income, buil
> I think you could teach a great UI/UX class.
I think you can fuck off
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LMFAO
wow
i like the 40k/year part
but i want it on rock solid marble
like god's 10 orders
only for top teachers of course. You won't earn anything near that for a long time
15:13
Why can you post a wall of text and I can not?!
'cause he is tim
and you are not :D
@TimCastelijns i could live with 10% of that as extra salary.
i want it on paypal credit, untaxed.
The moment you have all been waiting for... the new app: play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.shotscope&hl=en
does it make sense to download it if the nearest golf field is 400km away?
oh hell fuck it, enjoy a new download.
15:17
first issue: the shot scope logo shows stretched
i think
ah no
it's like that.
uh
now seriously
i broke your app
> isValidToken:
java.text.ParseException: Unparseable date: "Tue, 13 Nov 2018 15:17:16 GMT"
at java.text.DateFormat.parse(DateFormat.java:358)
at com.shotscope.utils.Utils.isValidToken(Utils.java:148)
at com.shotscope.ShotScopeApp.doesUserTokenExist(ShotScopeApp.java:353)
at com.shotscope.ShotScopeApp.setupAppManualLogin(ShotScopeApp.java:85)
at com.shotscope.features.auth.LoginActivity$2$1.onProfileReady(LoginActivity.java:157)
at com.shotscope.features.profile.ProfileProvider$1.onResponse(ProfileProvider.java:76)
mark you probably should not download 37k golf courses for an arbitrary user
15:18
oh shit
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That moment when even your app can't get a date
@CptEric Why are you in 2018?
Ah I see that often, that's just cause you have no token
because i have no token apparently.
well there's a spinner that spins.
waits
You're downloading stuff
wait for it
can we dump all feedback here mark?
there's no further logs away from that error mark.
> W/System.err: at com.shotscope.features.profile.ProfileProvider$1.onResponse(ProfileProvider.java‌​:76)
last logcat entry
no network usare
settings>my shot scope: buttons partially overlap with the stuff above
15:22
God dammit
closed the app, reopened -> it worked.
awesome transition for the connect screen
loving it
you should remove all Log.d lines with proguard
> Mark: I'll post my new app in room-15 and feel a sense of pride and accomplishment.
> Narrator: Mark could not be more wrong.
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@TimCastelijns then where do i procastinate?
15:23
at least his app is in the store. I am working on some app for 2.5 years and v1 is not even done
how is that even possible, Tim?
Oh shit, I think I have some really awkward log.d statements
e.g. "MOTHER FUCKER WORKS WOOOO"
Hey it's okay at least he backed up... the thing
ever changing requirements, other projects taking up time, etc
Realm Golf Course List Size: 36841 you might want to download courses after login, because I just waited a long time to download them and I can't use the data because I am trying the demo :P
15:25
that's not very motivating when nothing ever comes out
@MarkO'Sullivan some graphs are borken on club stats
oh wait no they just are too small% to fit inside the bars
Tee shots screen is awesome<3
squares below not centered tho
will send you pic
maybe by design. Material tab layout also doesn't center tabs
A lot of the stuff is the same from v1, a last min decision was to keep the add courses / my courses stuff off the demo account although if you sign up and use your own account you can see all that stuff
@TimCastelijns that's actually used for registration
and later in the app
So that's part of the shared Realm
@AdamMc331 Would you say he stored a... key item?
my shot scope overlaps
15:28
next time you open the app you only download the modified courses
@RaghavSood I would, yes.
@CptEric :(
check FB
I tried installing the app but google wanted me to login so I gave up
I don't feel like walking to my bag to log in
Maybe at work tomorrow, when my bag is closer
i consider the app a solid 5/7 mark but you need to add a progress bar to the initial demo download
it's crazily slow
15:30
I get that, but consider me a user who just wants a quick peek at the app. I just had to wait a long time and I don't know why (ok I do because I can see it in the logcat, but you get the point)
pull random golf jokes and put them below the loading progress, that'll ease the waiting
there is a progressbar, no? I saw it
like the sims the first time you open it
there's a circular spinner
doesn't show progress or what's going on
stuff like "carving the course holes".
Yeah I tried a comedy line once and a user complained
"asking the caddy manager why is there a party on field 17"
15:32
"No rounds to upload - Get out there and play some golf!"
someone complained lmao
lmao what?
hah I remember that complaint
"telling adam to secure his keystore"
I honestly couldn't believe it
@CptEric I really like that idea
15:32
oh wait i jsut had the horriblest "forwardback"
you can put something like "Setting up for first use" or "Initializing"
If adam ends up writing a book, I expect the dedication to read "To my first keystore: I'm sorry we had a bad breakup, no other keystore will ever replace you."
:'(
A moment of silence for those we've lost.
the day we open our house doors with contactless downloadable 1-time certificates, is the day adam will appear at my door mumbling about lost hopes.
or at tristan's uni porch.
@MarkO'Sullivan Protip : focus your screenshots on the graphs instead of the lists
add only 3-4 max to the play store
mark a question for the designer? Why is everything dark, but not the navigationdrawer?
15:35
@TimCastelijns i've questioned some of his designs in the past lol
nitpick: selecting a section header in navigation makes the icon blue, but selecting a sub item does not
REALM USER LIST SIZE: 0, TOKEN COULD BE EMPTY OR NOT VALID:
here we go again.
r15 transcript, 2018 - Adam:Help I deleted my house key
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@TimCastelijns that's the issue I talked about in here with the navigation drawer :(
@CptEric *Well, here we are again
15:36
went to fix the library I was using, it was an issue within a library within the library ¬_¬
Solution: roll out my own navigation drawer. Release date: TBC
also I would remove the vertical scrollbar on the navigation drawer
soon to be translated
wait
can someone confirm it for me?
i think it is
this is the previous version
but i think itranslated it
15:40
@TimCastelijns why? if they open up all the options they'll have to scroll to the top to reach the profile section
@CptEric store listing isn't translated
because the white bar looks strange on the black part, and on the white part it's not even visible
yeah the store i know
just installed cardionlive, app is in english
@TimCastelijns wait what?
thanks Ocus ^^
15:40
Could you send me a screenshot of that?
so i did commit that change. nice for me.
sent on fb
@CptEric this is not very nice, though i.imgur.com/BYgSfmd.jpg
^^
what is not nice?
aah the watermark
that's why it's TBA yet
it's rolling out on partners for their opinion but it's not "public"
only the non watermarked images are final
as long as you know it and a ticket is opened in JIRA ^^
15:47
there's a slack channel solely for that pic
if that works
I really wish we had a dedicated tester for our tech
who could do automated tests
I know a guy who applied for a position at a company where they have an entire QA team to test changes in apps
i can say beep boop while i test if you pay me in cash mark
tell your boss i'm diligent finding nitpicky stuff
@TimCastelijns i'm jealous! That sounds like a dream to work with
my thoughts exactly
15:55
what an ungrateful job, QA tester
I'd be grateful for QA people
I would build a shrine in their honor
you say that, but too much QA will have the opposite effect for you :D
sure, their output is valuable ; but I wouldn't do this job
Yeah I'd hate to be a QA tester
15:57
back
wb CF :D
@MarkO'Sullivan awesome
thanks
what are we talking about?
follow this gif and you'll see :D
Any of you use open source video conferencing tools at work?
RealLife(tm)
16:01
@TimCastelijns you can center them
@MarkO'Sullivan believe me it isnt
it's gotta be better than doing literally everything yourself
@ColdFire better having some sort of process instead of having the same bug reported tons of times and not having them reported via jira
meh google developer console reports every bug now
also crashlytics
Tim you dont know that until you have experienced the other side
lol
the idea is to fix bugs before they go live
yes upload a alpha or beta release
16:15
that's really not acceptable for apps that do not suck
I mean the obvious bugs and stuff you can quickly identify
my previous company had a tester team they were sometimes logging bugs that were features sigh
well fire them and get better people
^
If you have proper good testers your first release to the public could have basically hardly any bugs
16:21
or fire the people who wrote the specifications that are used to do the tests
hardly any bugs is totally not true
hm can EventBus handle inheritance? Feels like it does not care and drops every child into the parent
also i kept a bug intentionally for them to find it they couldnt find it in 5 months eventually i fixed it
that is documented murat
16:24
hm
or maybe not
I thought I read it once, but can't find it
Not finding anything
EventBusBuilder.eventInheritance(boolean)?
how not to name methods: lesson 1
that's a builder, so that's ok
16:33
how not to try to be smart: lesson 1 ^
also: do you even RTFM people?
rtfm??
Read the Fucking manual
user3956566
if any of you Android heads are interested, I'm doing a short, short research project thinkspace.csu.edu.au/68803818a
sometimes :O
user3956566
on Android securities
> Rtfm: Red Team Field Manual
lol
16:37
the level of this room is decreasing at an unbelievable speed
we expect better from you all
Thanks :D
you're the ELITE
behave accordingly
~(-.-~)
user3956566
Man forget it - may as well be invisibile
@YvetteColomb I love Android security, it's great for... reasons
user3956566
16:43
@RaghavSood it's interesting. Mind you, I'm not sure the average user cares as much
@YvetteColomb i read it not sure what after that?
I have some less ethical experience with it, feel free to drop an email/hit me up on a non-public channel if you wanna talk
user3956566
@ColdFire it's just started. It will continue to Jan. nm.
@YvetteColomb so how do we get around runtime permissions?
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Eski - good question XD
16:44
Replace them with walk time permissions, naturally
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"asking for a friend"
user3956566
@eski tha'ts what I'm investigating
I'll show myself out, it's okay
kay :D
Yay I'm down less than 1% on crypto today
I think
16:46
lol
@MarkO'Sullivan I think I'm going to try and raise some funds for the portfolio app
It's simply unfeasible to fund the node server costs myself for thousands of coins
It's gonna end up running me like $15k/month in AWS bills
HOLY SHIT
Start off small lmao
That's overkill
I have an alternative, but that involves a fair bit of dev work, for which I also need funds :P
I should be able to get back to doing flutter stuff which is good
16:49
@RaghavSood what are you doing that get that bill?
Running nodes?
opening a exchange?
Nodes == tons of bandwidth and storage == $$$$$
Nah, I could run an exchange for less
Source: We run an exchange for less
wow that is a shit ton of money for bandwidth and storage
@MarkO'Sullivan that cross platform sdk?
storage in itself is not expensive, what's expensive are IO operations
16:52
Yeah, plus some coins need a fair bit of hardware too
Ethereum, for instance
yeah true
wow screw that dog
I saw that comic once with "Your startup won't take off" lmao
Time to go~~
Cya later people!!! :D
17:00
cya mob boss
cya womp
@ColdFire sure is
sup noobs
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hahaha!
lol
o/ carl
17:06
o/
Yay cake
@netpork XD
wow BTC is down 25%
So it is
did you take a bath Raghav?
or did you sell
I usually have very little BTC
The majority of my coins are only down 10% or so in the last few days
So it's okay
17:25
Raghav where is that blog post on understanding crypto
Dead, like my free time
Getting into college is a lot of work, unfortunately
Remember when we had a blog that people posted articles to?
Remember when we had a bot?
17:26
Nice try skynet
I remember when @Ahmad had a script to clean up the user list.
o/ Dave
ǝʌɐꓷ /o
lolwut
You're not Glitch, you can't be upside down.
Mehdi's been watching too much Stranger Things
17:29
lol
lol, nice netpork
Hello, Android!
After an hour and a half, I finally figured out this test... /sigh
17:54
@CarlAnderson :s
@CarlAnderson talking about which...I started a blog and wrote two posts: androidapprentice.com. I could copy those over to the Room 15 blog sometime.
Back~~ :D
welcome back noob W0MP
wb womp
18:03
:D
Hiya Carl!!!!! :D
wow! Roku is up 35% today
missed out on that rocket ride...
@Code-Apprentice yeah sure. I don't remember how to post correctly though. You might have to get Ahmad to help you.
@CarlAnderson My guess is it is just a pull request. I'm using Jekyll for my own blogs, so it should be similar.
gn folks
18:19
night
@RaghavSood I will start the bidding at $1
that's a little high don't you think?
you're right, I'll start it at $-1
18:40
19:00
hi crew
19:21
Rawr
how's it going JMR?
alright
@trevor
19:27
so many new lines
There is such a thing as CSS
o/ JMR
19:45
@Ahmad why not return an html response instead?
Aaah just realised it's not your Api
@MehdiB. some people don't know how http status codes work, so they put them in the response body
not kidding, people actually do that. A lot
20:01
What I don't understand is that it's like 10min of reading max
Mehdi, EA deserves to beat the record. The old downvote record was something around 25k downvotes. They are past that by roughly 400k now...
I'm not a gamer, but you're right, from what I read, they really deserve this record :D
yea our API is pretty shit and does a lot of things wrong, like status codes :(
@Ahmad remember anything you were doing before this happened?
20:29
@WarrenFaith damn. It was at -40k a couple hours ago
I downvoted because fuck EA
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hmmm I don't see that reason anywhere on idownvotedbecau.se
I agree, Fuck EA
@trevor-e I searched for a flight, booked the flight (all through the mobile website) and returned to the flight list
then opened a new tab, and saw this when I reopened the tab today
21:19
Why do we want to fuck EA?
Because it's been a while and we're desperate.
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No, just me? Oh...
hahahaha
lol
Would you put a web-service "Attach X to Y" on X or Y package/folder? (the endpoint being /Xs/xId/Ys/yId)
wow
So I don't think there's a right answer, but my opinion is to put it in the X folder because it's something you're doing with X.
21:25
Makes sense, I got the same remark
Yid
depends on how the relation is defined between the 2 actually
It's a N-N relation, but on the UX, X wraps Ys
do they both have a reference to eachother
No, the entity in the middle "XYs" is the one that has: "xId,yId" and linking them both on this entity is basically what the "attach" service does
Are X/Y proprietary concerns or can you say what they are? If you can, I think that will help us here.
Understand if you can't though.
21:29
I would put it in 'id' of the entity you are attaching to, because you are altering that table and not the other
and you are altering 1 row, so id instead of s
assuming the item that is being attached does not know what has happened
X = MarketingCampaign, Y = Video
ahh
Hmm. I still think I'd put it with X/Campaign package. Ultimately what you need to do though since it's an "on-the-fence" type of decision is make sure your web service is appropriately named and perhaps document this somewhere if you feel it could cause confusion.
never mind about what I said
Tim - correct, neither element what does it have/attached to, a video can be played on multiple campaigns and a campaign has multiple videos
I don't know how XY middle tables work
21:33
it's basically just saying, X can be linked to multiple Ys, and an Y can be linked to multiple Xs
Adam - you're right :D
I know, but I can't make sense of them
it's this sql thing
not necessarily sql, just a model thing, can be applied on anything from Pojos to SQL, noSql stuff etc...
which means, when I want to know what's linked to Xs, I'll just go fetch the middle entity
and same for when I want to know what's linked to Ys
but you need 2 fetches to get the actual content right
only 1, since you usually get 1 input, either X or Y
aaaah
yes, after fetching the linked item on the middle entity you need to fetch its proper entity
21:37
Hey @ColdFire! thought you went to sleep
21:57
Yeah it's not just SQL but I think that's where it's most commonly used. When you have to manage many to many relationships.

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