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11:01
oh, we got that from the French then.. here as good as you are no business will take you seriously unless you have a good diploma (exceptions made for people with +15 years of experience)
same here
no diploma = no job
no diploma = become a employer
mr5
mr5
me no diploma but me got still a job
11:03
who would refuse someone with Finn's avatar anyway?
here they call employers with no diplomas = bag owners (insinuating that besides his money, he's worthless and that if you work for them they'll make your life miserable because they don't understand anything besides money)
No diploma = good employee
mr5
mr5
@MehdiB. I'll be homeless in your country
Diploma usually means (as deveoper) that he have many theorical experience but never worked on a project. Since SDKs, Programming technologies and languages change and grow faster then hitlers kangooroos, it doesnt make sense to care about ANY certifications
11:05
@Mauker you
o/ mauker
mr5
mr5
@Mauker I guess it will be Ice King ^^
In germany we have two kinds of university. A theoretical one and a practical one while the practical one can be visited if you dont have a good degree OR worked before. But usally students visitng the pratical university earn more money after (and get a job faster)
mr5
mr5
since he can't steal Princess Bubblegum from me <3
@AdamMc331, if kotlin doesnt allow nullable by default and if you need to force it using data :? and if you want to "force" a i'm sure, give me HOPEFULLY not a nullpointer exception using !!, why is there lateinit which allows to you set the "immutable" value later which is null by default?
@EmanuelSeibold Good question. I summon the oracle @AdamMc331 to answer that
11:17
He's the only one who's an expert in kotlin :P (beside JW :D)
take my energy, summon @AdamMc331
Oh MkAdam, carrier of the K, gospel of Kotlin, protector of the NPE victims, we summon thee @AdamMc331
> Sacrifices a Java file
It's to lateinit.
Do kotlin developer earn more then Java Developer?
Also, good question
impossible to answer
11:20
They do develop faster
Why? IOS Developer earn a shit.
Faster? Why do you think they are faster?
Less boilerplate stuff to write
Because of "data-classes" which can be made usin' Lombok? Because of lesse boilerplate which can also be reached using faster build times using Java? :)
Some of my util classes took me way longer to write in Java
lmao
Because of "Ready NOT TO USE"-Solution which doesnt exist in Kotlin yet?
11:22
yet
yes, yet. But we'are yet.
unless yet is not later
But really, he's more qualified to answer that than I am
And yes, i like kotlin a little bit but im afraid that customers don't
why wouldn't they?
Customers couldn't care less about the language we use
Because (my) customers are usually developers aswell and want to extend their codes. They dont have any kotlin knowledge
11:23
Oh
They do if you have b2b customers
Your case is different
But Google adopting Kotlin as an official supported language is a huge leap for acceptance
Even if my case is different, how about if you develope for a customer and he want to give it to other developers later. Getting a cheap java developer is surely easier then finding an experienced adam
Yes, because the have law-issues with Oracle :P
lmao
@EmanuelSeibold Yet again, that's an answer that's valid for now
Things are speeding up for Kotlin
more and more devs will show up
Yes, but usually we'r developing now if we want to earn money
11:26
you have to anticipate the future
And yes, i learn kotlin since i care about the future, but still afraid that it wont be as good as mentioned
If it's not, dutch ditch it.
Things like this happens a lot on our field
Well, soneone said yesterday evening that Kotlin can be used to convert / run to javascript aswell (and some others) which sounds great
11:27
@Mauker meh just mention keystore lost and he will be here
Who knows? Maybe one day Realm will cease to exists, and Tim will be homeless then
or else sacrifice a keystore
Never used Realm, just their database but i didnt like it
@TimCastelijns you're up ^
thanks, ignored him
11:28
Tim, doenst mean its bad, but for my case it didnt work well (RXJava2)
lol tim
The time i tried it there were only RX-Java (1) possible to create their queries/threading
still the same: realm.io/docs/java/latest/#other-libraries but again, that doesnt means that it's bad. Its the fastest DB orm available, isnt it?
11:31
I love how Tim's expression fitted that meme
how dare you
it has nothing to do with sql
Almost seems like that he took that picture just to be meme'd
user443346
11:32
I stick with Tim's Realm Army.
@Jordy Oh you feudalist
Ah ok, didnt know it. Ill try it out onec its available
next month somewhere
user443346
11:34
@Mauker I trust my fellow Dutchies. Especially when they love frikandellen.
> Did you mean timkandellen?
Tim, wasnt ment as offense but i tried GreenDao, Realm, Room and several others. All had pro and contras. RealmDB has a great relation-mapping and it's fast while its hard to use with di/dagger. GreenDao was f*** fast but has problems with attach/detatching models. Room is just a product by google which may be "standard" later on
user443346
@EmanuelSeibold Oh you tried all the drugs solutions available on the market
lol jordy
11:36
lmao jordy
almost, didnt try agera yet :P
user443346
Never heard of those 'timkandellen'
user443346
Do you @TimCastelijns?
Room is just a product by google which may be "standard" later on yep, but it might also be deprecated next week
never seen a project using agera also
11:37
no clue jordy
Yes, maybe, same as architecture components. Im the only fool who use it in a productive app :P
If you follow the git repository you can see that they dont care about the architecture components. Questions on stackoverflow are very rarely asked.
it's just another pet project
like the other 5000 million projects they have
It's the way the want a developer to develope android apps. It shouldnt be treated as pet project
11:43
They removed the link to the architecture components on the Start-Page of deveoper.android...
Oh, that's not a good sign
Indeed.. :P
But the worst sign is that commonsware didnt add an article about room or architecture components in his book
@mr5 XD we don't really have homeless people here :D
allright the deed is done
what do you use to share your phone screen on the demo?
11:49
lol really not a single one mehdi?
No share screen, it's part of a whole demo show
SideSync <3
I use teamviewer
I use the phone on a tripod, and give everyone a binocular to focus on the tiny screen. #oldSchool
sounds legit.
11:52
I don't know on the micro level, but usually the homeless we see are drug addicts kids that run out of their home.
Beside those, when usually someone is really on a bad shape and is willing to work to improve it, their families host them or people help them and find them a small job and a small cheap room to rent to get started over (also food has never been an issue, you could eat for free anywhere if needed)
Feeling like this right now
user image
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12:16
wow. much silence. such quiet. wow.
sorry
user443346
Wohooo, just received my first apply for a mobile app (at my personal company).
Congrats! (my rates are 55$/h, in case you need to calculate the price of the app accordingly)
12:22
@MehdiB. wow what a nice country
lol mehdi
55$/h is too cheap
emaneul rate was 140$/h
Jordy is a friend, CF
user443346
@MehdiB. I'm making a quotation right now for an app. Thinking about €5-7.5K
user443346
Not hourly
for the app itself
@Jordy your what?
user443346
12:23
Yeah
wow nice quotation
I could live with that for a year
oh wait not a year
user443346
@MarkO'Sullivan Wait what, what wasn't clear about that :p?
I think he didn't understand the "apply" part
Jordy most probably has a website where there's a big "Apply to get a mobile app quotation" for customers
and a potential customer has reached out
Am I right, Jordy?
@Jordy oh, someone applied for a mobile app from your own personal company?
user443346
Correct, first time someone wants a app personally from me instead of the other company I also work for.
12:28
What app?
nice jordy
@RaghavSood "Cheap weed finder" :D
(jk Jordy)
Oh, I thought they wanted an Android app, not a "Dial X to ask Jordy for a quote" app
Wow! XD
Seriously though, congrats and good luck!
@Jordy congrats! hope it goes well
user443346
12:33
@MehdiB. That's Google Maps
user443346
And thanks Mark :) !
user443346
@RaghavSood It's an app for borrowing money.
lmao the app name mehdi
congrats jordy
ps: you may not wanna disclose details about the app in here
Nice, congratulations!
user443346
12:38
Thanks :) And it's allright Mehdi, the web application of it is already written by me. They really wanted a mobile app with it.
nice, 1 activity with a webview, easy 5000eu
BACK
user443346
@TimCastelijns mijn.payplan.nl thats actually possible with this :d
did you code yourself the responsiveness?
is it one of those clients that wants an app just to have an app?
user443346
12:42
Webapp almost done Mehdi, needs some small changes css+backend.
user443346
And a little bit Tim
> 3] A British man changed his name to Tim Pppppppppprice to make it harder for telemarketers to pronounce.
the things Tim's does
another smart tim
> 5] In 2001, Beaver College changed its name to Arcadia in part because anti-porn filters blocked access to the school's website.
lmao this^
12:44
what are you reading CF? :D
Word
user443346
@ColdFire Hahahahahahah I laughed so much harder than I should. Beaver College :D
13:00
wow this is interesting: quora.com/…
you should read stuff on SO, not quora
and why is that?
more drama
Anyone watching the updates for deadline day?
13:08
@Mehdi I watched this last night, decent stuff youtube.com/watch?v=QrbhPcbZv0I
@MarkO'Sullivan what?
he's talking football
what is deadline day¿
trade today = yes
trade tomorrow = no
13:23
@CptEric there's limits on when you can purchase new players throughout the year, the summer transfer window will close tonight so no new player signings until January
user443346
Tim, you remember when I asked about my text not getting aligned in the center of my marker?
@MarkO'Sullivan oh ours ends later
user443346
Time to visit le dentist. Enjoy your day lads!
you too
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13:39
later
Citiziens party aims to push for a 4days/year unemployment indemnization instead of the current 21days / year
fuck them
not good
what's that mean?
yeah fuck them
indemnization?
13:42
when a company fires you for no reason in spain, there is a economical compensation paid to the worker for the years they've worked on it
used to be 44 days of salary for each worked year, now it's between 31 and 21
Ah, redundancy pay, but for just being fired?
In England if you're fired (rather than made redundant) you get nothing
same here
it's a protection measure against nepotism and ageism
originally it was only on the public sector but on the late 80's there were big work fluctuation figures so the government put this measure up on the private sector too
it's basically a fine for firing someone without a valid reason, just for the sake of it
it's not a big amount of cash, but used to help the worker find another job in the meanwhile
Ah, in England you can't fire someone for no reason
here you can, but you get this fine
13:45
It's very easy to take an employer to tribunal if they do and win money from them
and also might face tribunals if the worker doesn't agree
@Jordy I remember it like it was april 12
companies used to fire people after their 50's and hire cheap labor on their spot
and are doing it again, sadly. we should put back Fire fines at the 80's levels.
nobody in their 55's is gonna find a stable job with 27% unemployment rate
and you can't retire either. if you retire before reaching 67 years old, you get a -30% on your retirement pension
13:48
Guys am having a weird issue
with recyclerview - each item has an edittext field and whenever I type some value into one of them on top of the list, another field is populated as soon as I scrolll
nice deisgn
design*
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i've had some recyclerview recycling cache issues
I cant get to share thie image
lol
@CptEric thanks mate
Hello, Android!
13:50
i can't remember how i solved them
It is acting weird, when I scroll, it just fills up another item
so annoying though
i think it had something to do with the way the recycler is drawn
but i can't remember
@AdamMc331 might have some clues
@Eenvincible just post the URL
i made a terrible mistake D:
but doesnt load the image her
here
@Eenvincible sounds like you are not recycling views correctly...or rather when a view gets recycled, it somehow thinks it is still holding the old data
yup. there was a weird issue with that
how could I remedy that
I just use a regular viewholder
and adapter for recyclerviews
13:53
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Q: How to prevent items from getting duplicated when scrolling recycler view

dev_ryI have created a row inside recycler view and inside that I have inflated two rows or more but when I scroll the items are getting used again. I am not getting where to recycle view or remove them dynamically I need a feed and their comments.For comments I need to inflate layouts to display them ...

When you reuse a view, be sure to clear out the EditText.
that too
oh god
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A: Are "left leaning" and "liberal" the same?

CptEricDisclaimer: 2D Compasses or Linear scales are generalizations and there's much more things at stake that what they represent. Like this: The idea of Liberal = Left exists almost solely in the context of the USA, due to the internal drifting factors of political ideology at the beginning of the...

i'm like, famous.
Let me try that
@CptEric where did you steal those graphics from?
google and politicalcompass.com
13:58
@CptEric you are a hero;
this actually worked
Thanks Captain;
@Mauker we should try this solution above for the profile pics duplicating on chatSO
@CptEric This solution? :o
I knew that the profile picture was a liberal
jk

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