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18:00
nope
AS doesnt support pure java projects
it used to support but it was removed a while back
I am pretty sure that it does. Will double check later.
nope
although there is a hack
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A: Can Android Studio be used to run standard Java projects?

idunnololzTested on Android Studio 0.8.6 - 2.1 Using this method you can have Java modules and Android modules in the same project and also have the ability to compile and run Java modules as stand alone Java projects. Open your Android project in Android Studio. If you do not have one, create one. Clic...

Any suggestions on free image editing software for my 12 year old. Gimp is all I really know
18:10
gimp i use ftw
Downloading now. But didn't know if there was something better/easier
And I don't do much with images because I suck at it
difficult to find things you don't suck at
No comment from you, CF
Damn, beat me to it :P
gimp is good i use it everyday
lol
s/didnt/don't
at least I don't suck at Engrish
18:12
you do
s/Engrish/English
GIMP isn't the easiest to use
If you can get access to Photoshop, I'd go with that any day
Oh, another thing I don't suck at...sarcasm
That said, GIMP does everything you need it too, it's just harder to use
Although honestly 12 year olds don't care
I could with my work account but I don't really feel good doing that
I spent years with GIMP before getting reliable access to Photoshop, and I turned out fine
18:13
photoshop aint free right?
gimp is free
huddles over fire in cave clutching spear
Yeah, that was the point. It's a little more difficult to use and he's 12. But I guess if he's starting from scratch then it might not matter much
well gimp is free
GIMP takes a while to get used to
but photoshop also takes a while
Yeah, GIMP is harder to use, but it's not like trying to learn haskell while drunk
It's still really easy
With a huge amount of tutorials
If your 12 year old spend a day or two getting familiar with it, he'll be fine
Yes. So we've figured out (which was implied from the beginning and reiterated) that gimp is free but harder to use
18:16
yup
shakes fist angrily
No, see
We know that now that CF and I have said it
Earlier, it was just something cM thinks
Not fact
18:17
So after all this, I'm going to download what I already started.
grabs whiskey
Goddamned address generator still hasn't found me an address starting with the prefix I want
It's been hours!
34,318,348,256 addresses later I have nothing
Must be built by the same person who maintains the bot
wow
lol
Unfortunately correct :P
This works a lot better than the bot though
This actually gets things done, eventually
we cant be sure
18:19
It's limited more by math than Raghav :P
The bot is just stupid
until we have seen it working
Well, after this address is done, I'll generate you a 1Cold bitcoin address
Then you can be sure
@ColdFire so you can have a pure Java project in AS.
nope
it just is a hack to be able to support it
so it is supported
18:20
Still AS has no official support for it
Potato potato
As long as the hack works, it's an official, supported feature
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I'm not sure what you mean by "official support".
i have no idea whether that hack works
Provided they keep supporting the hack
18:21
^
You can create and run Java programs in AS by creating a Java library.
well i think you should try that hack and see if it works first
You non believer
also i dont think hack is considered as officially supported
AS in IntellIJ inside it is still work for them to remove java from every way
18:26
I'm not sure why you call it a hack. And I still don't know what you mean by "official support". But that is all besides the point. You can create a pure Java project in AS.
to each their own opinion i guess
You keep saying "nope" but then you gave a link with the steps to do it.
Whether you call it "officially supported" or not, it still can be done.
This is not about opinion. It's about the facts which you presented by posting the link to the question above.
now now, kids
Use GIMP, not Photoshop?
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lol cM done downloading GIMP?
18:30
for Java? I don't think so
unless there's a hack
There's always a hack
I know one called Tim
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Sorry cM, hadn't bullied Tim in a while
I'm not downloading it but yeah it's installing now on his computer
back off my bff
Or what, you gonna GIMP me out of the r15 meet up photos?
lol he can do that
18:31
26 mins ago, by Cold Fire
232
A: Can Android Studio be used to run standard Java projects?

idunnololzTested on Android Studio 0.8.6 - 2.1 Using this method you can have Java modules and Android modules in the same project and also have the ability to compile and run Java modules as stand alone Java projects. Open your Android project in Android Studio. If you do not have one, create one. Clic...

And you can remove the Android module and just keep the Java library module.
I might just do that, Raghav
cM you have met raghav?
anyways...I should quit worrying that bone, eh?
i remember ahmad carl and raghav met
Not yet
We're on the fence about our meeting
18:36
you should all come to Yellowstone!
First results I got by googling Yellowstone
> - Scientists tracking earthquake swarm in northern Yellowstone Park
- Kayak guide dies while trying to rescue Yellowstone park visitor
:D
By "on the fence" he means he would really like to meet me but I'm trying to avoid it
it's huge! it has an area of 8,991 km²!
And somehow it is not the largest national park in the U.S.
lol Mehdi
18:40
> 1) Wrangell-St. Elias
• Area: 13,005 square miles (33,683 sq km)
• Location: Alaska
• Year of Formation: 1980
That and 6 more are bigger than Yellowstone. All but one are in Alaska. thoughtco.com/…
that's indeed huge
Singapore/Area 719.1 km²
Hmm
well US is huge
its 3rd largest by area
after russia and canada
You skipped Pluto
russia, pluto, canada
happy now
18:45
No
Ethereum SGD prices won't fall
I'm not happy
lol
that cant be helped
You don't have ETH right now?
Sold it yesterday
Except the prices sort of plateaued around the point I sold it at
Don't you hate when you sell but it keeps going up?
So I wouldn't have gained much by holding it
Eh, I lost maybe $20 by selling yesterday
I still have a bunch of other coins
Trying the whole trading side now
18:47
I wish I had $20
I have only done stocks so far, but the same principle applies.
More or less, except this moves way faster
Bet right, you're up 40-70% in a day
mauker sell your hat you will have 20$
Bet wrong, and you're broke
In an hour or so
Someone stole my hat
(not kidding)
18:48
which is a different issue. I wonder how crypto compares to the most volatile stocks on the market.
The ones I buy and sell are certainly not that volatile.
Cryptos (with the exception of Bitcoin) are usually pretty stable
They just spike a lot during events that generate a lot of interest, not unlike stocks
Except stocks might spike 15% at most
Cryptos easily hit 80% if they want to
In a day
talking about which...I should learn more about measuring volatility...
Yeah me too
It took me a while to figure out what all 6 columns in the order book on this one exchange meant
I'm sure there is a formula. And the value is probably just reported, so no need to actually calculate it myself.
And I'd already been trading for about 15 hours at that point
Probably should have understood that before
18:50
I can read stock listings in the paper...although I don't rely on that data for trading.
Are crypto listings similar? I mean which data are reported, like open, close, high, low, etc.
Yeah, almost identical
Well, they are identical
That doesn't surprise me.
Most of the exchanges are built on stock trading software I believe
It's the same thing, just with thin air instead of companies
might as well not reinvent the wheel
"companies" are just a figment of our collective imagination anyway.
I really do need more capital on the exchange though to get my spread right
18:52
same as "money"
Right now I'm missing a couple of decent coins
But don't have the BTC to put into them
Well, I do. Just not on the exchange
do you buy and sell other cryptos with BTC?
I'm still holding 90%+ off exchange and not trading that
BTC and ETH
so you don't use USD or other government-issued currency as the base unit for trading?
cuz that is very interesting.
No, none of the trading exchanges let you use fiat
18:54
TIL
Fiat/Crypto exchanges such as Coinbase are separate
Most exchanges let you use USDT though
USD Token
what's that?
It's a crypto pegged closely to the USD
TIL again
wow
how many trading you do raghav
18:55
Wrong link, fixed
Currently 6 coins
so they use a JS library to make a crypto? lol
You can do USD->USDT->BTC/ETH
Most places still only let you do BTC/ETH with USDT
Trading the smaller altcoins is exclusively BTC/ETH
That is some very interesting technology. Tether, I mean
Mostly BTC
Yeah, I haven't actually looked into it too much since I'm not dealing with USD currently
Plus, it's really easy for me to get BTC right now, so that too
I definitely need to learn more about cryptocurrency
18:57
I've been really pushing into it for the past week or so, still tons to learn
I have been fascinated by BTC since I first read about it years ago, but have not been in a position to do anything with it.
I've got a very solid understanding of the blockchain base and potential after all the IBM work, though
So I've got that going for me, which is nice
You should get started
If you want to buy BTC, you should do it before August 1st
My buddy built a mining machine recently. It is only a single machine with a couple of GPUs, so definitely no mining farm. Still, he seems to be having fun with it.
What happens on Aug 1?
After that, it's gonna crash and burn most likely, but any BTC you have from before that will likely double in coinsize due to an expected fork in the Bitcoin chain
Mining BTC is nearly impossible, but there are a few coins you can still mine at home
Bitcoins are better mined with ASICs today
18:59
That is my understanding as well.
They make it super simple, you can mine and actually earn stuff within a week or so with a CPU
Check out Bytecoin if you want to start mining
Probably a nice learning exercise even if you don't get any returns.
ASICs are also not profitable anymore unless you have nearly free electricity
How close are we from mining them all?
Those of you living in cold places can probably mine in the winters and replace your heating with ASICs
All Bitcoin? You have a century or so
19:00
nowhere near mauker
@SharonDMGreenham You need at least 80 rep, and a a:q ratio of 3:4 to talk here. Please see this link for more details.
The last Bitcoin is expected to be mined in 2140.
just get some fans to blow the heat into your home's HVAC
Hmmm
> a25bedc5-3d09-41b8-82fb-ea6c353d75ae has requested access to Android.
lolwut
19:01
> SharonDMGreenham You need at least 80 rep
That is an interesting handle.
There is a disturbance in the force
It's the same guy
I'm guessing he/she changed his handle, but chat's cache hasn't updated yet
19:01
The bot hits the StackExchange API directly for stats, and they probably update that faster
I did fine lol
yay adam
@Ahmad With the killer hackathon workshop app idea. Still using it lmao
What is the significance of this?
obviously hex...or maybe base64
19:03
so what did you explain them finally?
Significance of what?
the user id i guess
> 1069068
Why didn't the bot deny the person who is currently on the list?
The bot got logged out while I was watching Wonder Woman, probably didn't notice
19:04
ah, ok
@RaghavSood the GUID
wonder woman the movie?
I was just making sure it wasn't yet another of your "undocumented features"
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Q: Account association has given me a random username

Rory I had a few problems in associating my account on Fitness & Nutrition, perhaps due to the order in which I did things: Posted a question as an anonymous user. Once it had got a few upvotes and I felt less of an idiot, I clicked the register link. I was going to use my Google ID to login but t...

google just gives a bunch of user profiles on SE, but why is "a25bedc5-3d09-41b8-82fb-ea6c353d75ae" so popular?
19:06
Probably some kind of seed or default value they have
I thought the default was user######
That's the default username. This one seems to stem from a broken site association sign up
^
that bug tho
okay, I'm reading the link
!/meow
19:11
Looks like someone's mad they aren't getting enough social data out of me
fb sends notification about that too :/
19:23
@Mauker you here?
19:38
haha! I hate those notifications
yup
i hate the notification of some friend of mine comment on friend of friend of mine
the fuck is wrong with fb
lmao
yep
fb need new developers
they need someone who doesnt suck
good night cM and all
going to trek tomorrow morning
Good night, CF!
@ColdFire Someone like you? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
19:49
naah web isnt my expertise
maybe raghav or some other web expert
I am web expert
well then Tim
I watched a lot of spiderman when I was young
i was just about to put the laptop flap down when mehdi pinged me
Hahahaha
It's okay you can stay with us
19:52
that aint the problem
i have to go to early morning trek
Oh nice!
Enjoy man
just 4:05 h left
at this rate this trek is gone
welp then i am off to sleep enjoy all
GO TO SLEEP ALREADY!
What's the damn thing where you can see two colors together?
I know I bookmarked it but can't find it
20:31
@Code-Apprentice Yeah but it's kinda weird because you can't /start/ with a project.
20:44
AndroidEssence makes mentoring so easy. Anytime someone asks me a question I can just be like "read through this blog post I wrote that describes exactly that."
20:54
i have read the rules
Congratulations?
lol
!/yiss
y u no embed
!/forget yiss
@AdamMc331 Command yiss forgotten.
20:58
!/learn yiss "<>https://media1.giphy.com/media/S4P8Z5fiLRpOU/giphy.gif"
@AdamMc331 Command yiss learned
Adam helps me remember why I like being mean to people
!/yiss
<3 Raghav
20:59
please forgive me
When I destroy the world, you will be to blame
Adam, not Okas
“I have read and understood the rules”.
I like how every step of the process has a different and specific tool
tools, surprise
8 days and I can friend my teachers on Facebook
I technically probably could now, but meh.
21:20
leave facebook, get a life, get a girl
21:46
@Okas you sound like a grumpy old man XD
22:20
interesting read and photos:
Photographer Joins Illegal Mammoth Tusk Hunt In Siberia, "Captures How They Get Rich, Get Drunk And Nearly Die" https://imgur.com/gallery/msf77
Updated my extension!
You can now use /cat gif to send cat gifs! Or jpg or png! Github or chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/so-chat-commander/…
22:38
@AdamMc331 YAY
:D
the repo I sent you?
told ya! it's perfect length for a workshop :)
It really is. :)
where did you use it this time?
nice!
Looool
their first pic is literally you
22:52
LOL yeah from last year haha
@AdamMc331 Yah. I figured that out after I posted and had the ensuing conversation with CF.
14 hours ago, by Code-Apprentice
Elon Musk publishes plans for colonizing Mars http://bit.ly/2rE8DSJ https://t.co/DdztkLXydq
inb4 =p
Oh didn't see it sorry :D
no need to apologize. Just pointing it out.
How's your weekend, Mehdi?
Very bad, I hired a senior developer a few months ago
as a freelancer
22:59
and I trusted him with a backend scope (I swear basic crud operations)
not working out well, eh?
haha! I went through my client, If there is a need (which I expect to be) I'll ping you!
I tested 4 first services, found 4 bugs, and 2 missing services from the scope I gave him
I called him, the guy told me that he wants to be billed again
WTF !!
I actually can't right now anyway. But keep me in mind in a few months.
I will
what lang?
23:02
We're going on QA in 14 days and I think I'll have to redo all his crap + all my Android scope
The backend is JS
(backed by Java)
no it's Java behind, just a JS Wrapper API to allow non Java developers to created robust services
so they have a choice to code in Java or JS and maybe in the future more scripting languages (all backed by java underline)
how's your weekend so far ? :D
@MehdiB. great. Hosted a meetup this afternoon and 7 people showed up!
Nice! a meetup talking about what?
23:08
Just started this like 6 months ago and it has been slow, but seems like some interest is gathering.
A member of our group gave a presentation about packet capture and manipulation using Go.
I did an Intro to Android presentation a few months ago and want to do more along those lines.
That's interesting, I think 7 motivated people is a good number for questions and exchanging, more than that would be trickier to learn
I'd love to have 50 people or more attend. But I'm shooting for a more realistic goal of 15-20 regulars.
I don't really know any developers in my area which is one reason I started this group. Fortunately, one of the members has been great for giving a couple of presentations and bringing people.
I'd really want to participate to on-site hackatons
or be part of a regular professional learning group
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@MehdiB. me, too. That's another reason I started this. I'm not sure how much longer I'll be living here, though. I'm seriously considering moving in the next 2 or 3 months.
@Code-Apprentice When you sneeze so hard your mustache flips to the other lip.
23:22
XD
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