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14:03
@Code-Apprentice not yet but it is the deepest network tool I know
@CptEric wireshark... well I am not sure if I can even understand what I see there :D
hmm lol
That is all I got, too, warren
@WarrenFaith Do you use Googles DNS?
I can't modify the dns in my router... so no
I might be able to modify it on the client side
14:24
That's the first thing I'd try
8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4.
yeah I know them 😀 I will definitively try them... somehow
You don't have your own router between the ISP and your hardware?
New mobo, ps, and ram. Waiting for the rest of the parts.
I just read that my ISP is known for having issues with IPv6. I should ask them to disable that and afterwards it should work fast
the ISP gave me a router. The configuration possibilities are laughable
14:28
Anyone have a pun for continuous integration? I'm falling short here.
goddamit jenkins, you had one task and failed miserably at 20.
(lol)
Howdy, folks o/
other news tell me that I need to disable the normal wifi and must enable the guest wifi... because that works better then the normal one... WTF
14:44
A friend just asked me if I knew of an iOS -> Android terminology cheat sheet. Has anyone seen something like this? You know, something that would have like (UIViewController, Activity) (Segue, Intent), etc.. ?
I just have a oneliner for that: [[Bull] shit] -> AweSome.ness()
loool
not sure on the syntax for the bullshit
Isn't it NSBullShit?
14:53
Also fuck espresso
I wrote my own custom matcher for error text on an EditText because I though Espresso didn't have one
but it does!
hmm
nope dam
It's just that, instead of being withError() it's hasErrorText() which is stupid
i built my own
everything else is with...
but segues are not like intents
they're like the evil twin you keep aside
locked
14:54
No they're not but they're the closest by comparison, yes?
expecting him to die of maulnourishement
So, you are going to fuck espresso because you can't read documentation?
I also wouldn't say UIViewController is like an Activity, but they're the closest comparison to each other
ViewController, yes, it's an activity
but segues are...
some kind of fragment you keep in there
for passing data, like a savage.
whereas you could really just... pass the data to the VC
or use a manager singleton class
segues only add problems :P
@codeMagic Yeah yeah :(
14:57
:D
I think it is stupid though because a lot of other ViewMatcher like withText() and withHint() and now you're gonna throw at me hasErrorText()?!
I'm doing a git training in an hour so I don't have much else to do right now but prepare for that and troll the room
lol
I have to start prepping for my Espresso talk - it's in a week from today
Talk where?
git training? Are you giving it?
15:00
Yes, just for the other devs here because I'm the only one who has used it :/
And I don't even feel like I have a great grasp on it. Just enough to get by. So...lord save us all
I'll come school you in it
at my old university
Of course, I actually learn a lot by answering questions.
\o Tristan
15:10
cm, you are leading that git training?
Applying to my first college today!
Appropriate emoji would be "Oh fuck, shit, ahhh"
@Code-Apprentice I'll take you up on that offer. Haha
netpork, yes just a basic overview of branching, commits, merge, and push. Oh, and cloning. Just the basics
And it's pushed back until "sometime this afternoon" because mongo came in late looking like death
I'm still trying to figure out how it's going to work with our current set up. I had a process in mind but it's not going to work quite how I imagined
Are you familiar with git flow?
15:26
no
Can anyone explain why Google Maps doesn't work in production?
debug app is fine
production app it just doesn't show
you didn't set up it correctly
with the production certificate
I did
I think
you generate the API
you restrict it to Android apps
you get the RSA key from the keystore file and you add the package name
67
Q: Git branching and tagging best practices

Code-GuruI am currently learning to use Git by reading Pro Git. Right now I'm learning about branching and tags. My question is when should I use a branch and when should I use a tag? For example, say I create a branch for version 1.1 of a project. When I finish and release this version, should I leave t...

Oh, I know that. I thought you meant a separate tool or something. I have an understanding (for the most part) of how it should flow
15:31
And of course a plug for one of my most up voted questions
just had a 4 hour lunch and a stop in the pub before going back to "work"
My issue is tying it all together (local repos, test, and production)
Nice, RED!
There are told that support that particular work flow, too. But, yeah, I was referring to the process itself
I actually have that first link bookmarked
That could be me... I do not envy my daughter for having a dad like me... oh she will suffer :D
15:33
I tried teaching a friend about git and failed miserably.
LMAO Warren
I jumped straight to branches without really explaining and demonstrating commits
At least I learned what not to do...
I drew arrows and circles on the conference room whiteboard showing commits, branching, etc...
Not sure how good it is but should get the job done
Might issue right now is basically, make local changes then how to save to remote test server on the appropriate branch
Because right now we have a test server set up and that's where it pulls files from locally through DW
18
Q: Android SHA1 release keystore not working with Google Maps

CyruxxI am using the Google Maps Android API and I'm running into some issues. I am signing my apk with android studio (created one at .android/keystore.jks). Also I'm selecting "release" as type in it. I have used the command keytool -list -v -keystore C:\Users\Toshiba\.android\keystore.jks to get...

This was my issue
two separate google_maps_api.xml files
What is DW?
15:39
Dreamweaver
I know. We are working towards using Intellij
I've been pushing for it for awhile now
Oh snap, really? Finally moving to WebStorm or something?
15:51
o/
o/
@codeMagic are you mod yet?
Not sure if ignoring me or the love is gone
Love me @codeMagic
He said he had a talk or something so I think he's AFK
16:06
Pfffff. Priorities @codeMagic
😐 The excessive pinging should stop...
peehaa is the ping master
@PeeHaa Welcome! Please read rule #4.
@McAdam331 yes
@netpork I am
@McAdam331 ok tnx @McAdam331
Moar pings! @codeMagic
16:08
/annoying mode
I feel left out
Or at best normal annoying mode
@WarrenFaith I can fix that
( •_•)O*¯·.¸.·´¯°Q(•_• )
lets play ping pong
16:20
Oh my, what happened in here? I just went to help rerun an hdmi cable
@jlindenbaum hopefully! IntelliJ seems to support what we need. Haven't looked at webstorm in awhile
How many pings did you have when you got back?
@PeeHaa I think so?
Just 5, CA :P
Isn't Webstorm just IntelliJ with some plug ins?
Maybe? It's all jetbrains, I believe
Mac, it's ok. The training got moved back until mongo has risen from the dead
And @PeeHaa has top security clearance to ping me
But good looking out
16:33
Of course. Not gonna lie, I chose not to make a fuss about it because he is one of our longest regulars but I felt like I should have said something haha.
peehaa, when did you start joining this room?
I have trouble with his name, I keep thinking about someone laughing about urinating.
PEE!!!! HAAA!!!
Damn, April '13
Apr 2 '13 at 21:35, by Octavian Damiean
@PeeHaa welcome to the room.
lmfao Carl
now the 12 year old inside of me is giggling
16:38
LOL
peehaa sounds suomish to me
It sounds like a toilet humor energy wave from dragon ball
peeeeeeee haaaaaaaa!
o/
peehaa, are you from finland?
@McAdam331 oof that's a long time considering it all started out as a rebecca troll scheme :p
@netpork dutch
16:46
lol i was sure someone would raise the ping attack concern by pee haaaaa
peehaa, near miss
does someone know any tablet device without rear camera?
Old samsung tab?
Not sure
17:01
me too
I think the NOOK tablet didn't have any camera
doesn't operate android though contrary to the nook ;)
17:14
fine
haha this looks like a android
dual screen / no camera !
doesn't run android
First Nexus 7 didn't have a rear camera.
17:36
yeah, nexus 7 from 2012 maybe
there is a hidden camera in the crack
Can someone tell me why I need this? What does deep linking exactly do?
lets you open webpage url in app
it's used when the app is a companion to a web app
that's how facebook.com links open facebook app instead of chrome
17:44
It is only required if i have a web app with same functionality?
yes, there is something to do with google crawling the app and ranking it but if you don't have a webpage for your app deep linking doesn't make sense
there is more here on getting the crawl to work without a webpage firebase.google.com/docs/app-indexing/android/…
so, should i link a webpage which is about "how to use the app"/"Get it on PlayStore" with the app?
3
Q: Android deep linking without corresponding URL

danijooSo from my understanding android application deep linking works like this: You have a website with several pages. For each page, you define a deep link. This makes the app show up in google search instead of the website if the search term matches. For example, if I add a deep link to http://exam...

hmm maybe rupin, 1 sec, seems some of the content is gone
so you need a website or wait for google to index app-only content
you can send a form asking them to do it in the link above
alright. thanks.
hey dave o/
17:52
hey CF
So, if an android user browses web link "www.example.com/myapp" from chrome/systemBrowser, he will be taken to my app instead of web page.
right?
yes
whatsup dave?
you know, working on 3-4 different projects a day
I hate multi-tasking between websites, iOS and Android =\
@rupinderjeet if you set it up that way, yes
what if i add "www.facebook.com/home.php" instead? what will it do then?
you might have a conflict if facebook is installed
there's no guarantee which will be opened
18:05
does it depend upon SEO too?
dunno
i see nice
3 4 project that sounds bad
too much work
well 2 are websites others are working on and I jump in occasionally. 1 is an iOS/Android app that I maintain (grill) and another is an Android app that another company made and we're fixing a few bugs and adding features, almost done.
18:08
ohh then its great
18:51
cats are liquid
This I know
Dave, moved everything to swift yet? :)
never
Apple is basically garbage so I want to spend as little time as possible learning their bullshit
obj-c sucks
19:09
@DaveS is this the right way? Or, should i combine intent-filters?
thats looks right to me
I don't see how swift is any better Eric
Objective C is fine, you can always just do the whole thing in C++ if you want.
objc is the worst syntaxed programming language i've seen
and i'm an ABAP certified technician
sure the syntax is awful but it works fine
so does assembly
19:22
lol
=p, auto complete makes it fine Eric, I think swifts syntax is terrible
reminds me of javascript
might was well do my iOS apps in jQuery
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like how terrible
like.. brainfuck terrible? perl terrible?
cause I've only seen snippets of Obj-C and holy guaca-square brackets
worse than guaca-square bracket holes
square brackets sure, but otherwise it's like java. Swift uses inferred types and the difference between mutable and constant is let vs var
there's not semicolons or parentheses around conditions.
It's lazy and not very explicit and I can only help but wonder how anything works correctly
19:28
when you get into (OBJC) it it's like a horrible frankeson between VB6, bracketizor the destroyer, and c++
Swift can be as explicit as you want
obj-c has the weirdest method call system of the universe, and you have to write up to 3 files for a damn class.
yeah but I know it already. I don't like change.
one for da "class" constructor, the other for the getters and setters, and the other for extra methods
wich you can skip and puto into the getters one
19:30
I've never had to write 3 files for a class btw
i think its 2 not 3
might have messed up my mind
yeah that's standard for C++ as well
2 is too much for 1 class tho
well you can always skip the .h
if you want
but i agree obj c syntax are the worst
19:31
swift isn't better tho. It's ugly and sparse
this is cancer.
I understand all of that. It's not really that hard
swift can be as clean as the coder is tho
and as pretty as ordered is the brain
yeah but I work in a profession where I clean up other people's shit
for me swift is a nightmare
19:32
i make all my classes the java way in swift and they look awesome, some things are super simple
nice
@DaveS i dont think so it is
for me obj-c is the nightmare lol
when i have to mantain some lazy dude's code, i want it to be readable
and objc is anything but readable
btw Eric the above example you just @synthesize title and author and write a single init
that's an overly complicated example
I read it just fine
19:37
it's easily readable
it's ugly
i consider the high amount of [],() and - ( whatev) and * ugly
the KPViewController syntax makes no sense
what makes no sense?
URL: NSURL (string: self.movieUrl as String))!
wtf is that supposed to mean
19:39
o/
why are there exclamation marks after everything, this isn't a 12 year old girl's text message
parameter nsurl takes a new NSURL ( parameter string of NSURL constructor takes this class's moveURL var as String
return value is forced
(!)
that means that it will return an object or it'll break.
yeah what the fuck is wrong with [[KPViewController alloc] initWithUrl:self.movieUrl];
not adding a ! makes it possible to return a null value
! is for optional
19:40
what the hell is alloc?
and why is it inside some brackets?
alloc memory allocation
have you ever used C or C++?
hey o/ CM
C yes , c++ only subtly.
think malloc
but you don't need to free with ARC
19:41
never used it.
basically allocating memory and initializing the data are still distinct steps
but that's pretty much the same as var blah = 0; var blah allocates, = 0 inits
why separate it then?
and why do it in a such ugly way?
legacy of supporting direct C and C++ syntax
laziest class i could make
Hey CF!
19:47
I really just hate that swift doesn't use semi colons and explicit types aren't forced
swift allows semi colons
just lets you ignore em
compiles perfectly with them
nope i havent seen semi colon in swift code
just try it
I don't want a programming language that lets you be lazy when I have to fix other people's shit
it works
19:48
also dang they removed the ++ and -- operator
^
that's swift 3 hipster's fault
i'd stick with swift 2.2 if i could
Hate to do it but I have to agree with Dave on this one
yeah dave has a point
lol CM hate to do it
yeah explicit types should be a thing
but that's still not worth obj-c
agree to disagree then eric
19:49
i mean ++ and -- are so commonly used operator
it's like taking out the headphone jack so you can sell a proprietary adapter instead
i consider obj-c the headphone jack-less device lol
nah, it's more like a black berry
a language nobody wanted, with a syntax nobody in their sane mind would like.
^ semicolons + types
doing ints like that is ugly
and way too verbose for the most common use case
19:53
obj.c is more verbose and unreadable
swift is more human-language like
it has an excuse, it was designed in the 80s
which is nice
swift has no excuse
it's ugly, slow and terrible
slow?
where?
yes its slow
agree with dave
19:54
what's slow on it?
compile time is terrible
that's before the 1.2 release for sure
swift matched obj-c speed on most tests after that
updated Nov 5th, 2016
debug runs without optimization by default
did they enable it?
it's just a drop down
code runs 6x faster when running like in release
19:58
didnt knew that
basically Eric, I'm not going to invest a bunch of time, in a language that at best is as fast as objective C and typically is slower, to learn a language I don't care for when what I do know works just fine and offers no real benefits to me.
that's my exact stance on obj-c lol XD
i learned java first , and swift is by far more near to java

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