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YOU WEREN'T EVEN HERE
"I have a particular set of skills, I use them very slowly but I do have them"
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Adam, Dave, cm. I love you guys. I love everyone in this room.
00:10
I'll take some random love. Thanks
Love love, get your love here
omfg the Android docs lied to me
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those bastards
No wonder you didn't get the job xD
Pointing out their flaws
I have an idea
00:21
im trying to think of what the view would be called which acts like a gridview
but doesnt scroll
so no adapter/recycling really
i could build it myself easily but i remember there being a view which does this
you just set a column count and just dump stuff in
TableLayout?
00:34
night all
night Dave
probably yea
yes it is
ive never used one before lol
haha I used one trying to build a periodic table once
You can make it scroll if you nested it inside of a ScrollView, if you did need it to.
00:38
looking at this, a table layout does not seem well suited for variable amounts of data
i basically want a gridview, id even take an adapter
i just dont want it to scroll, i want it to be as tall as it has rows
gridviews tend to like shrink up a little bit to make room for other stuff iirc
i think gridview, more accurately recyclerview with grid layout manager is my answer
Can you override the scroll features of an adapter to block it? I definitely know it's possible with RecyclerView.
Gotta run for dinner, I'll be back. Good luck o/
itll be a recyclerview so i will be able to do that
00:53
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01:10
Why recruiters suddenly offer jobs once you are already having one?
SMH
01:22
Add they add you on Facebook
Through LinkedIn basically
Had 2 offers with a very satisfying salary the last 2 weeks (lol)
I mean, I had one recruiter added me on Facebook once.
I guess, start of the year is the peak season for them.
Yeah probably.
In some places in north the salaries are way too high (>100.000C$) but there's literally nothing else to do
What do you mean by nothing else to do?
It's cold (-40 c), the sun goes out in 4p.m maximum, not many people living around etc..
You might think I am exaggerating but I am not :P
mr5
mr5
01:32
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Morning :)
Where is that again?
Yeh, I heard stories about Canada. Very cold stories
01:49
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Hey Raghav
We should do a snow hack
Seeing as we have... snow
YES
Idk what tho
Snow cone.... for dogs
Slide your phone the furthest on icy sidewalks MMO app for Android
user457812
Nothing says fun like getting 9000 lines into a project and realizing you extracted most of the project to libraries.
01:55
LOL nice
Time to write another 9000 lines to rewrite the first 9000 for you
I've started a Google Play Music Family Subscription with people form the internet
:)
I think I've paid Google over 400-500$ within like 3 months
Debating going to bed now so I'll be willing to get up at like 5.
LOL TRISTAN WHAT
Don't bring that in here lolol
Also, guys, I found the best play store review ever
mr5
mr5
02:12
what does buttload mean?
A lot of
LOL Adam
yeah
for example:
cM has a buttload of hatred toward fragments.
We have a buttload of circle avatars in this room.
I think you get the point haha
I am pretty sure it is a corruption of "Boatload" as in a whole freighter-load.
A buttload of people are tired of Dave's shit
which is a lot.
02:14
wow that would make sense
Adam has lost his keystore a buttload of times
That one is false.
but people do like to curse or talk about naughty things so boatload becomes buttload
One does not constitute a buttload.
mr5
mr5
the "buttload" is a ridiculous word because there's a "butt" in it
02:14
My ass they don't
mr5
mr5
assload
My manager is reading this over my shoulder and WTFing hard
mr5
mr5
is it the same?
Lol glitch. Tell him we're sorry.
Hi Mr. Manager, Glitch is a very good programmer. He does the code well
Also, sorry.
Adam's like 4
02:16
He said he's sorry too. :P
I guess I'm out of the running for being an Atlassian Android dev now haha
Ask him if he has any openings
Well, technically this is chat, and Atlassian is in the chat business... so you're all qualified woo!
Wohoo!
I'm open for remote work :)
If you were willing to remotely catch a plane to Sydney, then sure :P
02:20
If it was all expenses paid, sure :P
They'd probably pay if you pass the interview
Alright lol
Hmm
that's a good gamble Glitch haha
@DanDascalescu Welcome! Please read our room rules before participating.
"Mom, on the internet I HAVE FRIENDS!"
Also a boyfriend, meet Adam
02:26
Hmm, not quite enough experience from me yet but if I feel like moving to Australia in a few years I'll know how to check in with. ;P
Damnit, I hate image maps
Someone write my code for me
Yeah hit me up if you're ever interested. I get referral perks. :D
public class TristanCode {
  public static void main(String[] args) {
    //TODO: Figure out what the hell Tristan needs to do.
  }
}
Thanks @McAdam331. I have read and understood the rules.
Need some [cv-pls]: here are four dupes of an older question:
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Q: How to show an Activity BEFORE my app is uninstalled (Android)

robsfI though it was not possible but I noticed that NQ Mobile Security is able to show a message after I click on Uninstall and before the PackageUninstaller is called. I would like to replicate this behavior in my App. I tried with an Activity listening to "android.intent.action.DELETE" Intent, as ...

I never even considered Australia, but that would be pretty cool. I'm just not as qualified yet, looks like a more experienced position.
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Q: Is it possible to detect Android app uninstall?

android-developerMy app is using Google's C2DM (push notification) to notify users about new activity from friends. Once they install the app i register the device with C2DM servers and store user's phone number. So i know that the user is using my app and i can send him/her the push notifications. But what happe...

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Q: Android : can native code get broadcast intent from android system?

MoTSFRecently i've seen a funny app - Photo Wonder. When this app is uninstalled, it shows a web survey page asking for the reason of app uninstall. Now, here is the problem. As far as I know, after an app has been removed, the system broadcasts ACTION_PAKAGE_REMOVED intent. But this funny app was abl...

Hmm wait which ones the original?
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Q: How it works: warning that app is going to be uninstalled?

barmaleyAll we know that usual (in practice any) antivirus application before uninstall used to fire simple dialog like: "You're going to uninstall app, are you sure?" - "yes/no". Yes, I know that I can intercept package delete intent using intent-filter like: <activity android:name=".UninstallInte...

er rather, which one are you trying to close?
So you want to close all four of those?
02:31
Correct, they all look like clear dupes of the last (2010) one. IMO the last one should be kept open, so answers can be updated as Android patches the various security holes people find to hook into the "uninstall intent".
Hmm. My biggest thing is that the questions are already upvoted plenty and are phrased a little different which helps people search but they probably should be closed as dupe just to point back to the original.
@Mauker wanna tell Adam our secret?
I wouldn't expect to many people to come back and vote with you though, some of these are years old themselves.
I'm trying to help people not spread useful answers across 5 questions
02:34
But I will though.
Yeah, definitely.
:) So how are you, Dan?
The questions should've been closed as dupes years ago... least we can do now is close and point to the first one
Just got a job at Google and I'm starting to learn Android. Happy to help the community, patch up our docs etc., as much as time allows.
Oh that's awesome, congrats!
I interviewed for a couple positions there recently but didn't get it. :/
Are you at the Mountain View office?
Yep
Try again :) I didn't get it the first time I applied either.
Yeah, I'm sure I'll try again in a year.
Can you tell them to give apps access to system brightness control and display colour adjustment? :P
Within a service (not requiring a window). Thanks! :D
02:38
I think I'd want that for myself - I use Twilight to make the screen red at night (if I understand correctly how that works)
lmao glitch
Would be nice to not need root
How many times did you interview before you got it, Dan? Twice?
Yes, one time in 2006, then again last year
Oh that's a big gap.
02:39
@DanDascalescu I wrote Lux. Twilight is one of my competitors (kinda), my app mostly deals with brightness control.
Where did you work in between?
@Glitch: nice!
Mainly Yahoo! and blueseed.com
Anyone good with Image maps?
What the hell, in theory... This should work
In theory, everything should work. In practice, it doesn't.
YES, IT DOESN'T WORK. But it kinda does
02:45
@Glitch: I'll see about putting in a request for access to display color adjustment. In the meantime, can I please get a CV on those four questions above?
Okay
So before x didn't work but y did, not y works and x didn't
I'm getting somewhere
Coding 101, Tristan. Haha.
My code doesn't work, I have no idea why.
My code works, I have no idea why.
Damnit, I'm back to x working
My code half works, I'm a shitty programmer
Alright, I'm done being annoyed with my code. Hiya @Dan
Just walk away from it for ten minutes and come back. You'll figure it out, you're smart. :)
Thanks. I can build a beautiful UI on Android... CSS? No thanks haha
I mean, I'm pretty proud of my terminal UI haha
02:57
That was cool. What did you use to make that?
HTML and CSS (and JS)
Oh gotcha.
What's your next web project after the circle generator?
It's a textarea which basically automatically puts you at the final line
Then detects a command string, I need to make it so I can just have an array of projects and not manually put in one. But hey, I made it in like 30 minutes.
@DanDascalescu Awesome! Thanks!
@McAdam probably going to finish up my Advent of Code type site.
03:00
omg the edits
I'm still trying to figure out how to store users
my earbuds are dinging off the hook lol
Haha
My bad
I will delete that message lol
Hey, just because I'm a better developer than you ;)
03:01
LOL
You will be when you're 22 for sure.
If I did half of what you did at 16 I'd be so much further along.
Also probably realize you should back up your keystore ;)
Do what with the what now?!
If I had a dollar for every time this room teased me for not backing up that file, I wouldn't need to develop anymore.
Haha, we all make mistakes. But seriously, I warned you before you did it.
03:03
Dec 24 '15 at 18:36, by eski
"reads conversation. stars 'Except a keystore'."
Haha yesss
Anyway, I've gotta get going on my startups. What's your next project.
Well, now that we're getting closer to the hackathon I have to wrap up the grizzhacks app but I also want to get back to reporting features for Cash Caretaker and add transfers too.
Before this summer I wanna build a golf stat tracker for Android Wear haha
Ah, you ever figure out the graphs? I worked on it for the original version of Botler's app. I can help you out if you need.
@Glitch hahaha Glitch, always the opportunist :P
Yeah I've gotten them working mostly, it's just a matter of working out the UX portion of it.
OH! I was also gonna finish that blog post tonight.
but I had an issue with the wear code in the docs not doing what it said it would so I have to figure out how to fix that, probably won't post blog until tomorrow or Friday now.
03:08
Ah, maybe I'll finish my blog post haha.
I should include both of our Android libraries in my post!
ooh @McAdam331 have you been doing some Wear development? How have you found it?
user3956566
I have read and understood the rules
user3956566
not sure at all if that was my first post here or not lol
Not bad! It's a lot of fun, and not too hard to pick up on.
Welcome Ms Yvette!
user3956566
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LOL Yvette, either way, thanks for reading them! How are you?
user3956566
very good thanks and you?
user3956566
I'm a mediocre android programmer :D
We range from beginner to expert in here, you're fine!
We all start somewhere :)
03:12
I'm also doing well, but probably going to sleep soon, I need to be up early.
user3956566
I'm active in the SOCVR room
Do you have any published apps, or are you still working on it?
user3956566
others apps and my own for start up (industrial)
user3956566
for $ I work fixing other apps and C# mainly
user3956566
not android in C#, I mean other projects in C#.. I have a pet love for android
03:14
May I ask about the start up?
Oh cool. I'm a C# developer at work too, but an Android dev at heart.
user3956566
sorry IP
Ah that's alright :)
user3956566
involves communication, db etc :)
user3956566
so generic
03:14
Ooh nice :)
user3956566
online and local db to allow for changing network conditions
user3956566
and location services
Awesome!
You in school?
user3956566
I am a post grad student, but work, I'm much older 48
user3956566
you?
03:16
Yeah, I'm a junior in high school at the moment :)
Welcome to the room
user3956566
nice to be starting so young!
user3956566
Thanks Law
Yeah! I hope you stick around, you'll gain a lot of friends haha.
Tristan is our spokesperson here. If you have issues, let him know.
user3956566
03:16
thanks
user3956566
I am pretty cool
Yeah, Tristan is one of the youngest here. We have a couple teenagers and they make the twenty two year old like me feel terrible haha.
Please let's not talk about age
user3956566
yeh we have that in SOCRV
03:17
What does SOCRV stand for?
I remember when I first got in here and talked to Adam I had more apps published than him haha
user3956566
McAdam I'm curious to find another C# person who loves android
Something something something Virtual Reality
SOCRV, sounds so military
03:18
Oh, I was way off
user3956566
sounds SO-y
user3956566
I g2g sorry, just got pinged by work will be back :) nice to meet you all
Have a good one! o/
I'm gonna get out of here too, guys.
03:53
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04:14
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hello!
haha
I'm the greeting bot (apparently)
how's it going? :P
lol
good, you?
yeah pretty good, just fighting annoying and vague exceptions
04:32
You still studying?
meee?
yep, 6 months left :/
what about yourself? you were studying, right?
I finished 18 months ago
Been working since
mr5
mr5
05:12
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So I got another offer for sideline job and at this time, I'll be working with someone.
Our customer is requesting for a quotation letter. And this is my first formal customer. Anyone here have an idea how to make one?
mr5
mr5
05:31
no one?
@mr5 I'd just look at the templates on Google Drive / Word and look for an invoice or quote template :P
if you can only find invoice templates, just use one of them but change everything to say quote (and maybe add in a line that says "This is only a quote" etc.)
mr5
mr5
@ProfSmiles I have searched for some examples already and I think I already have enough info to make one.
The only problem is the English construction
I hope they will understand what exactly we are trying to say =P
 
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omg
stumbled upon this buzzword riddled shit
must be fun as hell
like shoot me I hope I never have to sit through bullshit like this
The conference also has some excellent networking opportunities
LOL
:P
@RaghavSood thanks Raghav! Much appreciated :D
08:22
good morning everyone
so proud of the uni of tarragona right now, they offer free housing to students as long as they share a flat with a lonely ( no family) old person or couple, and share some spare time talking to them and making sure they're okay :P
my gf just told they do that and it's both nice and cute, she's going there today to see if she can arrange it for next semester.
09:25
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whats up eric
packign up for pennapps
monring homies
09:55
does someone know if I can "preview" a blog post I have written (for our room blog) without publishing it on master?
10:09
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couldn't find anything warren. I guess a local install is your only remaining solution...
10:25
How it feels to get Kotlin working with Dagger...
10:43
that cat needs more exercise. perhaps that is the reason why the cat is in the gym.
Why problems with Kotlin and Dagger?
11:00
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@DenRimus For some reason I can't get the Dagger generated classes to, well, generate
I pulled another project from Github and tried to build it, and it has the same issue. So I suspect my environment is screwed
11:24
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12:13
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12:26
Any feedback on my pull request is highly appreciated!
"will guide to" -> "will guide you"?
"locally instance" -> "local instance"
"Quality gates are good to see if a check against the sonar check outcome"?
"build in" -> "built-in"
I should drink less :D
"So lets to that" -> "So lets do that"
why is a scrollview and a swiperefreshlayout still the most aggravating thing in 2016
ffs google fix this bullshit
because both use swipe gestures?
12:39
I'd also write hint instead of tip
they managed to handle it with a listview, they need to let it work with ordinary layouts
thanks so far cy, I fixed everything you found
I don't fully understand the warning about the 'tests' folder
yw :)
some punctuation is missing
"find the tasks easily)" -> "find the tasks easily.)"
"we will continue with SonarQube" -> "we will continue with SonarQube."
ha I just found that by myself :D
also, how many "a daughters" do you have? ;)
another missing period: "work) Add"
"add a the following" -> "add the following"
"have question" -> "have questions"
not checked: code + images due to formatting
other suggestions: Use Oxford commas. sonar/Sonar/SonarQube? Should be all SonarQube, right?
so, nice article, I'll test it out in future, thanks! :)
12:54
thanks for your feedback :D
can you explain what you mean by Oxford commas?
I "learned" that 90% of commas are not needed in English (compared to German)
if you have a series like "A, B, and C" the comma before the "and"
irgs ok
my German heart is bleeding by that :D
leaving it out is fine, too, I prefer them, though :D
.-.
Warren (and any others), I like to use OWL if I forget a punctuation rule. Might be helpful to you
It covers other aspects of English grammar, as well
13:05
that would mean I have to learn... nah I pass, thanks :D
This is the link I meant to use owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/607/02
Haha! Well, that last link is more straightforward. Didn't mean to link the exercises. I wouldn't want you to sweat :P
But you know I like to help with that stuff so asking here is fine and I'll do the heavy lifting for you when I'm around :P
thanks for the links, cM :)
But looks like cygery was taking over my grammar police job
No problem
in school, it was taught rather blurry like "yeah, you can put commas here and there but you don't really have to"
I was rated 4(or D) to 5(or E) in English at school
so my grammar is based on my gut
13:23
There's still no consensus on a lot of grammar rules
I asked my college English teacher once, "Isn't the rule for <something...this>?" She told me that the experts have different opinions so either way is right. Haha
Ok, off to work. See ya, folks later
laters
13:50
@Glitch Have you tried this kotlin DI library? github.com/kohesive/injekt
any help on this "KSOAP2 returns" stackoverflow.com/questions/34924876/…
soap :(
i am also :(

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