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18:00
noice
the place I'm at rn does tests before actually going into second rounds
Question:

So at HackUMass I started talking to some people who are developing a startup, they already have most of it done, investors, etc. They're working on developing an Android application and basically offered me an unpaid internship. Now, being unpaid I'm hesitant but it for one seems like an amazing idea, and two would give me amazing experience. They also told me they'd write any recommendations for any job or college. I can sign a 5 month contract, start now, and be done in time for Summer so I can still get a summer paid internship if I find one. They told me there won't be s
So should I take it? Advice?
you have to write an application following our specs
we saw things
horrible
a lead android dev from one big company applied, did the test
Tristan, any company shares in exchange?
that dude/dudette had really bad code
Not that we talked about, I can probably ask or something.
18:02
As Jeff says: good code = no code haha;P
@tristan what does the app do?
I'd be very hesitant to do work for just a recommendation
Yeah I understand that, I ain't no free labor.
18:04
said the stackoverflower.. ?:P
yeah, working for free for 5 months?
also, ask them about their use of "ciao" wrt trademarks
I mean, I understand why they can't pay. They're a startup.
still, they could give you shares or similar in exchange imho
18:05
Right
Okay
I give people my domain email for brownie points xD
No free lunch
pbs.org/newshour/making-sense/… <- if I remember correctly this is a good read about that topic
I'd work from home btw
@Ahmad really bad code, like how?
@TristanWiley ah darn, you went to hackumass?
how was it? some of my friends were running booths and judging
18:11
It was amazing, got jipped. Should've won xD
haha
how did you like the campus? we've built a million new buildings in the last 5 years
But I don't go to win, so eh. I was more upset because I broke my laptop while coding and REAAAALLLYYYY needed those Surface Pros haha
You go to UMass?
I loved it honestly, that food is amazing as fuck tho
*went to Umass
right trevor?
yea I'm an alumni
Nice nice
What were their names?
18:13
our dining halls were really good when I was there
Nothing is working today...at all poundsigntryagaintomorrow
me too cM
my friend Sergio was at the Verizon Wireless booth
I think my friend Mark Brennan was a judge
Everything sucks hurts my brain
I blame them for not letting me win xD
18:14
haha I'll tell them they let you down
Good, give them hell. xD
@nebulae that guy copied code from an open source project, removed the comments and tried to sell (bad) code as his own
that bad
I honestly need a new laptop, I might take my dads haha
but yea it's a really affordable school with a great CS program, top 25
ooh, ick
18:15
affordable for in-state students I suppose
sorry, very unresponsive today, still in the office and didn't get any work done today :|
I'm really glad I went though, I learned a lot. And so much swag.
I'm somehow getting 4 down and 11 up through my wirefree interwbz connection :|
YESS. My code works.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
18:17
god damnit, Picasso is making my listview super slow to scroll
Now that I've got this I can go home
need food.
picasso is making it slow?
isn't picasso async?
yeah it is, but still slow
no more smooth scrolling, its all janky now
darn :/
There's also one called Ion
You could try it out, not guaranteeing anything
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A: Picasso Images Reloading on Scroll in listview

Suhail MehtaWhen a user fires a fling MotionEvent , application is downloading images, it needs to stop, concentrate of scrolling, and then get back to downloading images again as soon as motion stops. The effects of doing this is almost magical. Also, Google gave out code to show how it's done. You can fin...

I did that for the time being
going to request we set up a proper image system though, because the images are too big
sizes to iphone retina displays
18:33
check for overdraw, @RED_
i've barely experienced any lag w/ picasso
might also be the image dimensions / cropping
smooth lists = an art
Im using picasso for my lists, and its super smooth
10,000+ images loaded async
can i see your code? maybe theres something non obvious in the image loading
my nexus 6P is on the way
I still dont freakin have marshmallow on my current nexus o.o
I do, it's amazing.
I don't
i want.
my n6 is acting wonky too
its got the speaker crackling immediate battery drain power off bug.
which is kind of a big deal.
18:55
before M I had to charge my phone twice a day, now only once
<-- n6
I just got an upvote on an question ~:O
whaaaa
lol
So it means some people still love Eclipse>? lol
Or somehow don't know about AS
19:00
or somehow you have a knack for answering questions cM
It is probably a knack
The post was almost 3 years old :P
I don't have a knack for anything except breaking stuff through code
I still get a lot of love from a +3 year old answer too
19:03
Yeah but you probably deserve that love because you're smart
My answer was "Window->Preferences->General->Editors->Text Editors-Uncheck 'Show whitespace characters'"
I really get frustrated when code works just fine and then a few weeks or months down the road, something stops working
:)
'13 is my magical year. It seems like nearly all upvotes on old posts I get are from then
o/ Warren
19:12
It was very painful watching that test finish ^
damn cM, how is that
normally the other way round
Lol! I don't know
right
I mean, unless you are uploading tons of videos from your weekend's partying
That's our wireless. Plugged in it's around 90 down and 20 up. But I have to debug wirelessly
90? I want that right now
19:14
heyo Warren
I would probably feel like superman
We just finally updated. It had been like 15/7 or something silly like that
hey neb! How are you? How is your dog? :D
Im about to update too, I could be getting 150/30
for less than what Im paying now
what would that be neb?
I dream of 150
19:16
hey! he's good : ) hes BIG and really over protective
I'm talking about my dog.
our labrador is not that big or protective, but playful like a toddler...
oh, with me, he's playful. With strangers he's like.. step away from my mommy.
I just installed unreal engine.
anyone watch the walking dead last night?
playful with everybody... which is still nice since my last dog was aggressive to the limit against everything and everybody
I wish my dog was playful with everyone
sucks that he barks so much
how old is he?
19:22
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Q: Why am I able to insert a duplicated value into a unique column

jul-So I want the user to be able to update my table. Besides the default _ID column, I also have a NAME column, which I declared unique and is the identifier I use for the rows. Now, for testing purposes, I am inserting the same values into the table. For some reason I find the table has duplicated...

15 months, about
this guy wants to build his own game server for turn based multiplayer because google play services "simplifies things too much"
@codeMagic I made another thing
well, making. WIP
sounds more about that he wants to learn that
That hurt, forgot to turn down my volume earlier :)
19:26
I'm scared to click
kills my limited vps right now
in the process of setting up the dedi to run it
why doesnt it give me a new quite when i refresh?
I feel liek I was lied to
that will change
graphicsmagic is ram heavy
working on countering that
it compliments lorempizza.com
You need a different character. I can't stand the show that guy is in. And I know how important my opinion is to you
the entire website is a joke about his name
phil dunphy, fill dunphy
$12/year joke. :D
19:30
I know. I got that
Lol! touche
wait, what? how can you not like that show?
what? who said that? I love that show!
he makes the show
To be fair, I haven't given it much of a chance. I did see some funny parts once...once
cM always comes to hasty generalizations. If it doesn't fit his need on the first try, it's not worth his time.
19:34
That's only because I'm lazy and don't want to put in the effort for a second chance
posted on October 26, 2015 by Reto Meier

Posted by Takeshi Hagikura, Yuichi Araki, Developer Programs Engineer As we announced in the previous blog post, Android 6.0 Marshmallow is now publicly available to users. Along the way, we’ve been updating our samples collection to highlight exciting new features available to developers. This week, we’re releasing AsymmetricFingerprintDialog, a new sample demonstrating how to securely int

kotlin 1.0 beta candidate was released blog.jetbrains.com/kotlin/2015/10/…
on my birthday no less
HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY ESKI!
Happy Bday!
thanks, it was thursday actually
19:42
\o
I was home partying it up all weekend
happy birthday last thursday!
happy birthday yay!
does anyone have a Samsung Galaxy Light running 4.2.2?
So you are 'esk'-ing us to do what now? Happy belated birthday anyway!
lol
hbd! :D
19:44
to all go and program in kotlin
don't try the beta though, apparently it's broken lol
@eski Oh happy NOT birthday then.
What is so special about kotlin?
it's amazing
19:46
A statically typed language for Android?
Neat
It has so many nice features, I don't know which to tell you about
whats a kotlin?
It unites Java and JavaScript under one sacrilegious monstrosity. That apparently developers love!
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Neat, lambda expressions.
I'll kill myself before using JavaScript one more time...
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19:47
i really like javascript
for WEB APPS IN A BROWSER.
> And if you check a type is right, the compiler will auto-cast it for you
aahha Warren
kotlin is there so that you don't need to use javascript
Do you use it in Android Studio?
19:49
Yes, the vocab app that I showed you is done with kotlin in Android Studio
it is by Jetbrains so it works with IntelliJ/AS
pls people don't do js for servers
do kotlin
Whatever happened to AngularJs?
it's dead, like the soul of node.js developers
Ive never used it
is it a thing?
haha
I tried it once and then stopped
I never seemed to get it
egghead.io
19:53
i don't see whats wrong with just writing javascript when you need javascript to do javascript things
I see the point of jQuery, simply for cross browser compat and easy ajax
There is nothing wrong
I started using angJs but got pulled off to work that project to work on something else
@Ahmad There was a time when people used javascript for server-side development?
It was a pain to start to understand it
19:54
@codeMagic Doing what? customer service?
if you wanna use a cool js lib, that you can do amazing things with that actually makes ike really good,
d3.js
Ha! I never got pulled of the CSR project :P
@eski What is it not good for?
Angular is dead?
since when?
I thought there was a new angular version or something
19:57
2.0 came out earlier this year
Sarah Palin's political career is dead but she still hangs around. So it makes sense that Angular is around too.
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Sarah Palin is still around?
You are 'cool' Dave
I don't see her because I don't live in Russia.
20:02
If you did though, you could.
hahaa
Her daughter is full of shit
Like mother, Like ..whatever that is
Sarah Palins political career is comedy
She makes more money from being a celebrity than anything else
Unreal Engine needs a good UX Engineer
20:05
She collected over a million dollars from supporters last election, drove around in a tour bus, did everything to indicate she was running for president without saying she was. Then never ran and kept the money to spend on herself.
She should be charged with fraud really.
I just don't get her;
or maybe political campaign funding shouldn't come from private dollars?
I am glad I don't do politics
It would make more sense if the US shortened the presidential campaign duration to 60 days. And tax payers just paid for the campaigns (up to a specific amount), and banned political donations over X amount of dollars. You know, so it's all for the people and not SuperPACs by big companies.
Im going to vote for bernie sanders
20:09
You guys just started your campaign process for 2016, and i'm already sick of it - in the mean time we've had a 60-day election campaign for our prime minister and got the whole whack over with in two months. it's less painful, and not so drawn out and ugly as the presidential race
/2 cents
Election season can suck my dick and it's still over a year away.
I hate the system too jlin. The problem is the supreme court recently declared money as a form of free speech so any attempts to restrict money in campaign financing is "protected as free speech"
it's so long! we live in 2015, you don't need 16 months to run a campaign anymore, news travels in seconds, not by horse and cart anymore
so you have these super pacs that can collect unlimited amounts of money, spend 10% on candidates and still be legal.
gross.
20:11
As a result of so much money, campaigns try to outspend each other and they do it by dragging it out over a year and a half in attempt to run the other guys out of money
we pay these people hundreds of thousands a year, to waste it and not work for us - they end up working for lobbyists and their biggest donors, makes me sick
so you have this cluster fuck of political douchebaggery
The political system is totally insanely fucked and whoever thinks it is a democracy is most definitely crazy
The US is an oligarchy.
20:13
but vote for trump because he'll make america great again with a wall.
yo BlackBeld
lol
The morons in Washington have totally ruined what was once a great experiment
Why do we need to make America great again? When did we become not great? I'm convinced that Republicans are just trying to say "We need to make America have a white male president again."
i was listening to an excellent set of interviews with Noam Chomsky the other day and he said it perfectly "America is a plutocracy masquerading as a democracy".
20:14
I was like, JavaScript and monstrosity in one phrase -> automatic +1 star
so how do you guys REALLY feel?
mca, he did a great analysis of how all political parties in the world have shifted to the right, but the republicans are now officially off the scale.. ideas of eisenhower who was influential for the concept of min. wage and living wages - today is considered a radical/left idea.. it was really neat ha
I feel like my country is messed up and being 22 years old it's scary as hell growing into this clusterfuck.
waiting for cM to kick me out of this room for being political again....
Trump will never get elected because in order to really win you need to pull from the middle. As we get closer to the election, say next summer, we'll see candidates get more and more moderate to draw votes from the other side. Trump will never go toward the middle.
20:16
my only hope McAdam is to support education and freedom of information. The younger generation seems harder to fool because they grew up with the internet which is where trolls are born.
I think he is not here Jlin, so let it out while he is away aha
i did come in here with a question hahaha, nobody has a samsung galaxy light, eh?
You can't have a large percentage of the population believe chain emails and expect their votes to not be insane.
Im surprised trudeau was elected in canada. Im also surprised at the level of discontent shown by my fellow canadians.
I don't have that version
20:17
no galaxy here, no
Yeah the Canadian elections
I don't understand either how Trump has supporters. Trump has insulted every demographic except for the rich white male.
John Oliver made fun of that dude and he still won
Go spend a weekend in the rural south McAdam
of course he won! have you seen him?
20:17
That's probably his biggest accomplishment. "I proved John Oliver wrong!"
elections in canada were a mess this time, really ugly and racist. they extended the election period from 30 days to 60 days, and it just got exhausting
when you play on people's fears and racism, you can accomplish a lot mca - when you polarize people you can mobilize a lot of people, it's insane
Ive never even heard him speak and I would have voted for him : )
^^^ That's like complaining about Fragmentation when you develop iOS apps
neb, why are you surprised trudeau got in?
I thought canada was gong to stick with the harper era forever
20:19
@jlindenbaum I guess I'm just too young to understand this tactic yet ha.
no, we finally mobilized a large youth vote, and first nation votes were up like 400% - couple reserves ran out of ballots, which is now a totally separate issue because a bunch of people couldn't vote. i think people just finally got tired of being told to live with austerity and in fear
"couple reserves ran out of ballots" I am always amused how a vote works overseas
the worst is the broken voting system.. again - first past post.. in canada 60% of the country can vote left, but because there's two left parties none of them win, and the tories get the seat, so you end up with a majority conservative gov't that only got 39% of the vote. it's sooo fucked
I mean you have to register to be able to vote (at least in some countries)... and then you need to vote actually...
At least you don't have Trump though
20:21
That's why I want someone other than Trump to get the republican nomination because I think Trump will be dumb enough to run as independent and he'll split the republican's vote so Bernie will win. yayyyy
warren - they didn't send enough ballots for registered voters apparently, they didn't think they would have the voter turn out... on top of that there was a "printing error" that had several hundred ballots show up with a checkbox next to the conservative party ha
in Germany: Everybody gets a letter, some go to vote and show them the letter and the ID and vote... done
@jlindenbaum That's crazy. I'd be so pissed.
warren - same here, they ran out of the actual papers in the voting stations to put your X on
that is crazy, too
20:23
Like, how do you not prepare for that? Who cares if you have extras. Everyone who's registered to vote should be able to vote.
we get a letter "your voting station is here, you're registered to vote automatically, because you paid income taxes" and then you go vote, show an ID and you're done
afaik they always do one for each possible voter plus reserves (vote participation around 50%, so enough reserves)
we had the biggest turnout in decades here... 69% turnout or something
Giving people 2 things to choose from is one scam you cannot hide
i'm so happy the election is over haha
20:23
That shit is too bad
During our last government election in the state, I had moved and went to vote at my new location but they claimed that I also had to renew my voter's id when I moved so basically I had to go vote in my old city but the polls were so close to closed that I never got to vote. :|
"Everyone who's registered to vote should be able to vote." Adam, why should I be required to register in the first place?
I don't know. That's a whole different argument. I never understood why I had to register at 18, I figured a valid state drivers license would be enough. It is silly.
My point was, anyone who is eligible to vote (regardless of the requirements) should have been able to vote. To run out of supplies and in turn preventing eligible voters from casting a vote is just crazy.
I don't understand why we (in the US) have a separate process for registering to vote. I'm not aware of anything that restricts people from being able to vote, other than being under 18. But if that's literally the only requirement, why not just check for a valid state-issued picture ID at the polls?
But maybe someone in here knows of restrictions that I don't.
20:27
warren - we don't have a concept of "Einwohnermeldeamt" here, when you move you don't register that you've moved... so elections canada has no idea where you live now until you file taxes at the end of the year and they can update your address.. your driver's license is on a state level, not a federal level, and apparently they can't share information for privacy reasons?
Oh my, I think I'm glad I missed this whole conversation.
bahahah
welcome back
you can get a vlid drivers license even if youre not a citizen,
if you're an illegal, if you weren't born here
nothing happened, punch was served, check with dave.
If you're an illegal but become nationalized (or whatever the term is, to gain US citizenship) you can still vote then, right?
I shouldn't say illegal
20:28
so the registration to vote, i guess, is to confirm that you're actually eligible
because you're not illegal at that point lol
Well that's where I'm confused. What eligibility is there that can't be demonstrated by my state-issued identification?
I need to go to Quora and ask this.
does your state issued id say where you were born?
mine doesnt
You can have a driver's license, for example, without being elligble to vote - like you don't have your permanent residency card, you're still on a work/visitor visa - but a driver's license is a legal ID to prove your identity when you vote
so just having a DL doesn't mean you're eligible to vote
Haha, jlind! Something happened.... turns around and walks out
Mine doesn't either, but you don't have to be American born to be a voter, do you? I just thought you'd have to be a US citizen. Maybe it's possible to get a license without citizenship? I don't know. I will do research tonight lol
20:30
isn't ... isn't that what i said? o.o
Ah okay.
I didn't realize you got an actual state issued license for work visas and stuff.
^ ha. i had nothing to do with any of it
someone said sarah palin and then mentioned canadian elections and it's just a blur from there on out
what year is it?
2016
the year of the ocelot
I'm going to leave the office now.
o/
byeeeee
cM have you still been playing dots like an addict?
20:36
I miss my laptop, I really really miss it tear
oh god
this is me right there
I'm not kidding, I wrote two lines of code today
spent the entire day researching how to implement the feature
@jlindenbaum I actually was finally able to pull myself away
Computer broke while I was 20 hours into programming, now I have to recreate all those animations and entire app again. (I was able to get the files off of it)
20:44
It got kind of crummy after people started playing teams in the not-teams part
i didn't even know there was a teams feature
Yeah, they give you a color and you try to eat the other colors. There's 3 I think. I never play that but my 5 year old does a lot. Lol
He still plays
But in the original part of it, people will team up and it makes it not as fun, imo

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