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00:48
Joke Time! @mr5
A Father put his 3year old daughter to bed, told her a story and listened to her prayers which ended by saying, "God bless Mommy, God bless Daddy, God bless Grandma and good-bye Grandpa."
The father asked, 'Why did you say good-bye Grandpa?'
The little girl said, "I don't know daddy, it just seemed like the thing to do."
The next day grandpa died. The father thought it was a strange coincidence.
A few months later the father put the girl to bed and listened to her prayers which went like this, "God bless Mommy, God Bless Daddy and good-bye Grandma."
01:16
Good morning
Anonymous
01:30
Hello.
Anonymous
Does anyone here have any PHP experience?
Anonymous
@RaghavSood Just wanted to know , if Android programming as a lot less hustle compared to PHP.
Depends on if you use Fragments or not
Anonymous
Fragments?
01:34
@Frondor Welcome! Please read, confirm reading, follow, and transcribe onto oak bark the room rules: room-15.github.io/blog
Fragments.
Hello!! Am I allowed to drop SO questions here?
Android related ofc
Did you read the rules?
Yes, and they state this: Before you ask a question here, first thoroughly research it yourself, and post it on Stack Overflow (or another appropriate Stack Exchange site, like programmers.se).
Did you read all of the rules?
I did.
Anonymous
I see no rule on that site. It's just a blog.
As stated in the rules, I'm allowed. Have fun.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/32751948/sending-push-notification-without-server-web-app-to-android
Anonymous
Well, I am no help vamp. So, these questions don't apply to me, I guess. Also, my question is subjective, so it would be inappropriate for SO.
01:44
What's your Sam? About php?
Anonymous
?
What was your question?
Anonymous
14 mins ago, by samayo
@RaghavSood Just wanted to know , if Android programming as a lot less hustle compared to PHP.
Anonymous
I'm not really into Android. I only wanted to make a book app in Android, and don't know if it is as ugly and mess as PHP.
Someone here works in Atlassian right? youtube.com/watch?t=130&v=1s5z3Xs3j_c
01:47
hustle and programming aren't words that can be used in the same sentence
Anonymous
Nah, I just mean to say, if I will regret trying Android as much as I do for PHP.
You will not. You will regret doing PHP though.
Anonymous
Eh, I don't know. I hear JAVA is a real PITA.
Not as long as you don't use fragments. Or samsung
What about nodejs? What do you think about node?
01:50
Um, not for multithread apps
Use Golang or python
Anonymous
It's just for a simple book. A Bible book for Samsung phones.
@codeMagic we have a non-rule reader xD
A bible book FOR SAMSUNG???
Anonymous
Yeah, it's sad!
Dude, Samsung is god.
Anonymous
01:52
huh?
Anonymous
lol
Bow down and pray to Samsung
Anonymous
May the Samsung cast you to hell :p
Samsung is only a 3 star rated phone
Samsung is hell, Apple is just a lower place in hell.
I'll stick with my Nexus 5 for now ;)
Anonymous
01:54
So, what are you using Android for? An app for a dish washer?
I love Android, and I love developing for it.
Anonymous
I have some experience with Golang/Python, I don't know if they have mature libraries to create a stable app.
Anonymous
^ wild guess
flask and django are very mature
Anonymous
good to know.
02:03
have been getting to know both django and flask lately and enjoying it
mr5
mr5
o/
@TristanWiley haha. Finally a non-Math joke :D
@TristanWiley Please read the room rules. room-15.github.io
mr5, there haven't been a lot of math jokes recently.
I read the rules and understand them blah blah. Be honest, the only reason you keep me around is for my cat pictures.
Good lord, any 2k+er please go reject the edit here stackoverflow.com/questions/32752126/…
mr5
mr5
02:12
@McAdam331 Hey there pal. Been busy these past days :)
He wants to paste two full files that the OP linked to
Huh?
is curious
Curious about what?
Nevermind, figured it out.
Good. I'm to tired to figure things out
02:15
Good.
I'm supposed to demonstrate for a few people Friday what I've done/will do today and tomorrow. But...there's no UI so...not sure how that's going to work
Aahhh love these
Just go to androidessence.com and you're all set ;)
Fine, http. Whateva
^^^
mr5
mr5
02:24
Is that yours?
No... that's me
mr5
mr5
:O
Who's taking the picture then?
A timer...
mr5
mr5
I'm imagining a food there
he's a programmer dude, he made a timer do it
mr5
mr5
02:27
Looks like a food
Can I eat that?
it costs $3k
mr5
mr5
I'm acting like a typical stereotyped Asian
It's so fluffy I want to eat it
Behold my hedgehog
Haha
"I'm acting like a typical stereotyped Asian" ...if that were the case, you would understand the math jokes :P
mr5
mr5
I'm the exception among them all =P
02:36
I can't wait for KHE
I want to go to another hackathon so badly. xD
mr5
mr5
@McAdam331 Can you guess where that is?
mr5
mr5
\o
Dammit KHE
mr5
mr5
You wi what?
02:43
jyoon what?
I might not be able to go
It overlaps with my school registration dates
mr5
mr5
"Don't let the school interfere with your education"
- Guess who?
I'll have to wait until spring
@mr5 me
mr5
mr5
I mean, who said that cheesy one-liner statement?
You should consider that jyoon
02:51
I said it
but it was from Mark Twain I think
03:05
 
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04:10
o/
04:27
Yo Shinobis
Yo fellas
Hey @Cjames
Can you send me yo updated resume
 
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06:33
@LawGimenez is it okay later?
good morning
remember kids = leaving palceholder code uncommented might vary results
a small, uncommented url += "&domainId=1"; has been giving me trouble for the whole mroning and yesterday's evening.
07:02
@CptEric that may result a vulnerability issue
nah,it just replaced the previously set user domain, making the "test3" user not able to do anything.
still quite annoying.
07:27
How to create a unique Gradle link for the Android library code that other can import by specifying in the build.gradle?
Yup
Is it same which we uses to compile? I mean is there any difference between Maven and jcenter?
jcenter?
repositories {
jcenter()
}
aah
i currently don't know if you require maven to be present too in that component
i don't have it
and i use a lot of maven libraries
07:35
For libraries we define jcenter() and sometimes maven()
so its little confusion, by the way thanks for the link
its very usefull
noproblem
:P
08:12
o/
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i do not know how i made that northern slashed o.
lol, AltGr™
08:59
sending a base64 string can be reaaaaaally slow.
why do you need to do that?
maybe he is sending an image
^dat
currently testing at 400x250px
800x450 takes too long
moving to 320 x 480
 
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10:22
IMPORTANT CHANGES BEFORE RELEASE : the text message on the dialogs should be changed from "ok" to "Ok".
It should be Okay
why not OK?
it's abbreviation, so both letters should be of same size?
I just generally feel avoiding abbreviations in such stuff is better
"OK" (also spelled "okay", "ok", or "O.K.") is a word denoting approval, acceptance, agreement, assent, or acknowledgment. "OK", as an adjective, can also express acknowledgment without approval. "OK" has frequently turned up as a loanword in many other languages. As an adjective, "OK" means "adequate", "acceptable" ("this is OK to send out"), "mediocre" often in contrast to "good" ("the food was OK"); it also functions as an adverb in this sense. As an interjection, it can denote compliance ("OK, I will do that"), or agreement ("OK, that is fine"). As a verb and noun it means "assent" ("the boss...
wiki suggests that the "OK" spelling is correct
and it doesn't mention "Ok"
it's an anglicism as the app is in spanish.
so "Okay" would be too exagerated
there is actually no formal translation in spanish for Ok/Okay".
and All-Caps is too rude to look stylish.
10:29
Android 5 uses all-caps for buttons by default
it's the new style
deal with it
i know. clients don't like it , willie hears them, willie don't cares.
but in ios i can set the caps i want , so they force this little thingies.
10:52
o/
11:11
@Guys , is there any way to get account info of that account has used in google play store from that multiple account ?

I can get the multiple account information but cant figure out which account used in google play store .
11:54
what do you mean with "used"? the account used to download an app?
yes
Account that currently activated to playstore
that could be different accounts
Let's say i have 2 gmail account configured in my android device , i can get That two account information using AccountManager but i can not able to find out which account being activated in google play app .
ok, that's clear
I'm not familiar with the relevant APIs but would be surprised if this information can be accessed
There should be a way , afterall i am getting all that a/c information so there should not like security reason according to me
12:11
It's Ok to use a ScrollView as a top container on a Fragment instead of a FrameLayout?
hm, I'd think so
Yeah, works just fine
Happy I didn't blow anything up
o/ morning
Morning
o/
12:34
What's up adam?
12:47
not much.dont have class for like four hours yet so i'm being lazy
might go throw in a load of laundry and do my next blog post.
what will it be about?
Hi All
I have a question - Does locking the phone screen kills the running Async task ?
Animations
Don't think so.
It depends passiondroid, why don't you just try it and find out?
13:05
30 upvotes to go for bronze badge on android :D
another morning of nothing but meetings, what a waste
yeah.
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A: Should I generate android GCM registration ID app specific or user specific?

MaukerYou could try the following things: When the user logs off, send a request to delete the token on your server, and erase it on your app; Once the user logs off, you could simply remove the association of "User ID" to "GCM Token" (Or Registration ID) on your server. And when someone logs in agai...

am I forgetting something?
13:40
GAIZ!
Have bug -> set minifyEnabled to false -> works
How to debug? ;__;
I find it weird that no permissions are required to get push notifications and GCM working
I mean, hello everyone! o/
Hello miva o/
on 6.0 i only ask for location, and push notifications work
Doesn't it ask fewer permissions when you use GCM or something? I might have just made that up.
Goodluck on your android badge mauker
I only get upvotes on one answer lol. No one likes my other answers :(
13:44
let me check your answers
Well, your most voted one is a good answer indeed
it asks for no permissions with GCM, which is cool, i guess users can still disable notifications on ap er app basis but it's not permission related
does anyone have two androidManifest files in their project? one in the root and the other under src/main ?
would like to delete it if it's not required
I've edited one of your answers @miva2
I got an edit! :o
14:01
I got an approved edit! :o
wtf did you do, I got +80! O__O
Yeah thanks for the edit! Must have been from the time when I didn't always use thisyet
the ` I mean
gah, i wish there was an easy way to see where a permission is being used
I said I was going to see your answers hahaha
upvoted the ones I liked
Doesn't mean you need to bump my score like that D:
They were good answers
14:04
good afternoon
Thanks :D
Good afternoon
good morning!
Ola Eric, como estas
Hola Eric, buenas tardes. Como te va?
14:08
Dammit, I forgot again to give my size for the SO shirt. I set an alarm tonigh to check my mail!
Hmm... does anyone know how to debug something caused by minifyenabled? It's got something to do with SSL pinning which I know next to nothing about.
I just made a sandwich and then realized we're out of chips. This is the lunchtime equivalent of pouring your cereal before noticing you're out of milk.
3
i'm okay.
2nd postproduction class.
You mean you eat a sandwich with chips?...
Don't ask, just wave and smile @miva2
You don't have potato chips with your sandwiches?
14:11
sandwich with chips. that's the most english lunch i've heard.
With potato chips you mean fries or chips?
bag chips.
I mean chips, not fries.
That sounds like a really interesting combination
not that crazy apparently haha
14:13
Well I have never seen that before.
'ts weird.
Depends on the culture
seen from a culture where lunch is the strong meal
it's weird.
Eric, isn't there bacalhao a bras (spelling?) in spain? it's fish with chips.
spain is too big to say there's something on it XD
you've got 8 different cultures
14:15
Well, I learned something new today.
Well it's from Portugal so maybe only that side of Spain
it might. being ~1500km away from where i live, i've never checked.
we make cute salads with bacallà (Cod)
Are you really spanish?!
that looks awesome
catalan.
and this is my city's surroundings "national food"
it's called cassola de tros
14:20
I was just kidding man ;D
a lot of different meats and vegetables
I bet you guys have amazing seafood.
all cooked on low fire
I live near a really big lake, so we get awesome seafood at restaurants near me too
The chorizo is amazing
14:21
you guys made me hungry
not chorizo!
somewhat tastier blood sausage
brb video time.
my uncle and aunt have a house in Barcelona, they bring us a whole ton of chorizo when they come back.
we call it black sausage.
used for omelettes, salads, stews...
i like chorizos
we have great seafood.
14:23
I want chorizo .__.
fideuà.
Eric, why do you make us hungry?
great, now I want qdoba for dinner later
so you stop your united kingdomian eating habits and come here enjoy life.
whoa that looks nice
14:23
mwahahaha.
see you in 20 minutes
cya
14:47
o/
back home
feels so good
o/
wb
September 30th is the release date for OSX El Capitan.
Welcome back Ahmad!
How do you guys feel about this line to signify withdrawal vs transaction? Previously I colored the text of the transaction amount, but I might take this idea instead.
15:00
I LOVE IT
The red and green on the left? Maybe make it a bit thicker? It's hard to see.
Isn't red and green hard to diferentiate for color blind people?
Is it?
15:03
But it's a nice and clen
Hold on, running an alternative idea (using colors on the TextView) gimme one sec.
clean distinction
Whoops. I set the background color next textcolor of the TV.
I used 2dp thickness on that Miva. But you're right, kinda tough to see. I'll test with 4 and see if it's too intrusive.
Yeah 4 sounds better to me :D
4 is good. Since everything runs on a baseline 4dp grid anyways
15:06
btw, I'm not a designer and often tend to have different opinion than most people so don't listen to me too much.
Here is a screenshot using colored texts instead. A friend suggested I put a minus sign infront of withdrawals. Is that over kill if I've already added text color? And here is the 4dp divider, which personally I like more.
Not being a designer doesn't mean your opinion is any less valid. In some cases more so. I'm trying to think from the user's perspective here. What would be most useful to the user to see the difference in transactions?
Adam, I'd probably use colored text
bit more saturated colors
I just used the holo_red_light colors for testing, but I kinda wanna go grab the material color codes for those two.
4dp is definitely better than 2 :)
generally, look how others do it, e.g., banking website
and yeah, 4dp is better
15:10
Well the checkbook app uses lines, which is where I got that idea from.
4dp is good, it's not intrusive at all IMHO.
The colored text is what the published version has now, so I need to consider that. But I'm changing so much that I want to go big or go home, even if that means overhauling everything in the UI. The only thing I want to make sure I don't do is screw up the database for the existing users haha
Hmm, not sure which is better, lines or colored text.
I'll ask a couple friends and get some feedback.
also, I'd prepend a - for withdrawels
Not sure about the -
withdrawing -100$?
no worries, I am
15:12
lol D: I appreciate two points of view, I really do. Weighing pros and cons is important.
you could also test if the currency couldn't be removed from the list entries
Why do you prefer that, cyg?
I'm using the NumberFormat class to format currency, but I don't have to. I'm pretty much dead set on that though, because I can't think of any reason why you wouldn't display currency as currency.
it's common (-> banking websites, statements) and makes deduction clear
I think if you want to put the - sign it should be clear that the -100 counts on your account and you are not "withdrawing -100"
I do include a negative sign if the account balance ever goes negative, I think. But not with transactions.
15:14
you could also experiment with appending - (or additional +)
that's what my bank does on paper statements
Accounts can have a negative balance, transactions cannot. Transactions have a value, and the effect that value has an on account is based on whether it's a deposit or withdrawal. That's just how I think of it. But everyone looks differently.
Like banks are always a good example =p
I will try it, Cygery. That's the only way to really know for sure ha.
Banks are probably the best example ha
yep, keep testing
JUST ADD EVERYTHING!
15:15
:D
Perhaps meeting half way to use the colored indicator and the - is a good start. That's what I'm going to test first because I have the indicator in now haha
what if you add both a + and a - in the same transaction so people can choose
And make the color randomized so there's more variation
"I'm just gonna choose for these all to be deposits. Yay money." LOLOL
15:17
better stay serious
Yes, people will think they have more money than they atually have, thus spend more, thus using your app more, meaning more revenue for you!
Okay so the minus looks odd unless I made the text red also but I think it'd be weird to use the indicator and colored text.
ok serious now. Don't listen to me.
Gonna try the other now
Yeah. This is serious matters. We have 29 users at stake. -.-
to sum my advice up: no indicator at the left, green/red text for amounts, prepend minus for withdrawals, remove currency from text in list items (add it to a header or so)
15:20
I don't understand the last point.
The rest are here.
just use "100.00" etc. in the list without the $
dunno what's commonly used for negative amounts, is it -$100 or $-100?
the first one looks strange imho
I've always wondered that. What I can do is make the number negative and see how NumberFormat.getCurrencyInstance() does it.
I'm not a fan of no dollar sign
I looked at some bank stuff, -$xxx.xx seems standard.
ok, I guess currency sign yes/no is a location-dependent question
I'd make the colors a bit more saturated, at least the green
larger font size, too
and basealign it with the description
thesis calls, laters
15:48
The baseline is aligned, I think. Ill double check.
Gotta run to class. Thanks so much for the input @cygery and @miva2 I really appreciate it.
@McAdam331 are you using the dash(-) or the minus sign(−)
@McAdam331 also using both colored text and border looks nicer
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