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09:00
XD it's pretty exciting to be building a new state from 0, sorry if we're a bit annoying.
omg I just got like the most amazing idea
Spain PM—What they are claiming to ask people is to to renounce their status as Spaniards and Europeans. This is nonsense. Why should they lose out on their right to be Spanish and European? This goes against the destiny of time.

Radio Interviewer—But Spanish nationality will not be lost. In the case of the independence of Catalonia, the Spanish nationality will not be lost by the citizens of Catalonia.

—I don’t know why it won’t be lost. And European nationality neither?

—Because the law says that a citizen born in Spain does not lose their nationality even though he resides in a foreig
stay tuned, will report back
@iCoder rejected, you have no answers in the android tag. Answer some stuff.
09:07
^this was the idea?
LOl
that was Spains PM?
yup.
inspiring character.
tall as a tree, dumb as a rock, as we say here.
in spanish the conversation is more fun, because there are a lot of Brain_Not_Found faces and long silences while he was thinking
3
there you go, with subtitles
LOL no that was not the idea
will report back in a few weeks
09:10
oh, ok.
any hints?
oh, btw, national-catolicism (spanish fascist dictatorship's ideology) is back on the tracks apparently, the leader of the church in spain has ordered prayings around the country for the "sacred unity of the country, and the sanctity of the king".
09:25
morning lads
another long day of runtime permissions ahead
morning!
Hey guys, is it good to have a switchToFragment method in a baseActivity? So I don't need to always use the FragmentManager and transactions and all.
i don't know if it's good, but i have something similar too.
Well always repeating the same code also isn't good
my snipped requires a (FrameLayout container,Fragment fragment,FragmentManager manager)
but it's the same in essence.
09:36
@miva2 I think it's fine
and if you ever need some extra logic there, you can change it only there
I was also thinking of including the FragmentManager becasue in one case I need to add extra flags
Thanks Sarge
Yeah I already added a second one for the cases that don't need a backstack
I think I can remove the boolean though.
@RED_ ugh you're dealing with M permissions?
that thing is awful
M permissions are aful? :(
well for devs they are
yeah it's a pain
09:42
oh, too bad :(
doing a big refactor at the same time because it pretty much requires it
and trying to cut down on permissions because asking for something liek GET_ACCOUNTS is going to scare the user like nobody else
I htink that is also a point of the new permissions :)
To ask fewer permissions I mean
Shit, I forgot to commit. My uncommited changes is full of unrelated stuff xD
two things i've found, GET_ACCOUNTS is for 4.0.3 and below, and USE_CREDENTIALS has been removed in 6.0
I jump from one thing to the other all the time lol
i don't want to live on this M anymore
next friday i go to the Madrid Games Week.
like the E3 of spain.
09:49
nice
the best part : it's a class trip.
with the teachers ,& a hired bus.
my edittext suddenly stopped hiding passwords, whattt
HIDE_TEXT not requested. (just a joke i hope).
this game should be pretty good
after i add the use_credentials permission back I bet it works
this makes no sense
or not
09:55
check the xml just incase you resetted it to normal
nah it's set to textPassword
something weird is going on
maybe it broke with 6.0
"we think users should see what they type in" - someone at google deleting that line.
cool, give us pictures and a detailed report! ;D
10:37
i'm blaming 6.0, our app that's live, pointing to API 22 works just fine and I haven't touched that file in months
11:04
let the hate flow through you.
11:26
o/
 
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12:31
@Praveen you've got write access. Please read the room rules room-15.github.io
12:50
I have read and understood the rules
I have read and understood the rules
o/
:) Yes
I have read and understood the rules
I am the rules
…almost
I always forget why ass bourbon is such an important thing
12:57
@Praveen Thank you, kind sir
can I change the package name of an already published app?
I have to start writing a firmware updater through Bluetooth today. Going to be a fun day
I have to write a rootkit for Android phones by Friday
Yay
I guess you'll be having more fun than me :P
Well, to be fair, mine is already written (in vb.net. and updates through a USB port) I just have to reproduce it in Java and integrate it into my app to use Bluetooth
@Mauker You can change. But, it will be as new app with your new package name
13:03
I have to write one that roots the device, installs the actual rootkit, unroots the device, and deletes itself
I swear this is not illegal
Okay, it probably is. But it's for a good cause!
Sounds like some shady business you've got going on over there, Raghav
And now the NSA knows what you're up to
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Lol. Research project for Indian gov. device tracking
And now the NSA knows you're working for the Indian gov as a spy.
do you have a choice to decline that work?
If I could, I'd very likely avoid such things
13:11
even if it paid well?
You mean paid app?
Yes, even if it is paid app also.
if it's paid well, that's certainly some shady business
finally back in berlin
13:37
o/
What's up mauker?
publishing an update of an app
Nice nice
My boss after I changed the color scheme of the prototype: "Yeah, indeed it looks way more beautiful"
I'm just waiting for the design team to catch up with that
13:41
\o/
Now I'm trying to animate a SearchView
tried to simply use a LayoutTransition
But it doesn't feel right
seems too slow.
Hmm. Can you change the duration on the Transition?
ugh they're working on our roof at work and it drives me nuts
I can
Got a little better
Neat.
Just one thing that is bugging me now
my toolbar have an icon on the middle of it, instead of a title
13:55
2nd day. Videogame programming & animation.
the animation changes the visibility of the items to GONE immediately
To create the space for the expanded SearchView
Are they gone, or moved to an overflow menu?
gone
but when I close, the icon reappears before the animation is finished
and do they reappear when you take off focus?
that's the default behavior as per the docs
13:57
Oh that's buggy.
Yeah, I was thinking it was default behavior, but I'm surprised they reappear to quickly, but I guess it makes sense.
It does
But it looks a little weird to me haha
Do you have the FB app?
I do
When you focus their searchview, it takes up the whole thing, but also adds a back button. It's a cool little animation, not sure how they did it yet, though.
Yeah, just saw it
it slides the "chat" button, and brings the back button
14:00
wanna try this?
might work as you want to
Mauker can you gist your xml? Are you using action items on the menu? Maybe instead of action items you can use your own ImageView, and then you'd have full control over the translations yourself?
It's more work, but you can do it how you want it to be done.
I can
wait
I've hidden a gem there as well
there it is @McAdam331
14:15
Is there any way to make the search view part of the toolbar's XML?
I'm not sure we can do that on ToolBars
but wait
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Q: How to use SearchView in Toolbar Android

ShudyThe code on which I am working, is using a Toolbar and inflating a menu. Here is the code private Toolbar mToolbar; mToolbar.inflateMenu(R.menu.chat_screen_menu); setupMenu (); private void setupMenu () { mMenu = mToolbar.getMenu(); if (mMenu != null) { if (mChatPager != n...

Yeah I just stumbled upon that too
I've done that
You've done tons of things Tristan
yeah you can put anything on a toolbar i think
14:22
how do people get anything done with iis?
they install xampp and say it's IIS ( i know, bad joke)
What Eric said. I'm sure this can be done. You can do whatever you want with a Toolbar.
It's a lot of effing code, but the screenshots look promising.
my web app works fine if you run it by itself
but fails with the most useless error message ever when you run it under iis
Hmmm
404? 400? 500?
user457812
14:30
Error 6 The handle is invalid
user457812
Errls, errls for everyone.
as best I can tell it has something to do with python and 64 bit vs. 32 bit
but that doesn't tell me why it would work by itself and fail under iis. Or how to fix it
Background
The error indicates insufficient permissions to access the registry for remote control operations using Remote Registry. The problem can often occur on machines that were upgraded to XP/2003 from Windows 2000.
In Windows XP, the Remote Registry Service is logged on as the Local Service user. However, By default, Windows 2000 does not have a built-in user account named Local Service. Instead, the Remote Registry Service is logged on as Local System.

Upgraded machines can persist with registry permissions granted to the older user account, preventing remote access.
This is a win7 machine
and it is shutting down now. But I'll give that a try once it comes back up
14:33
then disable antivirus and restart IIS
modern antiviruses might interfere
I don't have one on this machine
but I still don't get why it would work fine when it serves itself
why IIS? does it have any unique benefits?
it's what the client wants to host under
is the only benefit
because Active Directory
enterprise user management
14:36
if left to me it would be on some flavor of linux with nginx or apache
@McAdam331 It does, but I'm wondering if it's worth the time. That means I'll have to drop the entire SearchView interface... developer.android.com/training/search/setup.html
that's why we can't have nice things©
(about IIS and client)
I just couldn't figure out how to really animate the SearchView
Yeah...
I'll leave as it is for now
14:40
Mauker, chess?
yupp
I also would like to play, if you want
feel free to invite
meetings all day, feels like such an unproductive day
another meeting in 15 minutes too
that feel when you set a bounty on a question and it doesn't get a single answer
bring the question to us
or increase the bounty
14:47
6
Q: Nexus 6 display performance, PWM and flickering

Sarge BorschDoes anyone have any information about Nexus 6 (and its "brothers") real display performance? I'm worried about PWM/flickering, that usually exists in AMOLED displays and makes them completely unusable for me. (For example, all recent Samsung phones have flickering issue and because of that they ...

I don't think I can increase it because reputation is almost gone already
18 views 0 replies on my question from this morning, can't be a good sign
and if that phone is really rare, it's unlikely that it will help…
@SargeBorsch I have both an international and US Nexus 6. I can run tests or something if you like
I could at least upvote it
LOL I just helped a coworker rubber duck debug something. Their code was
MyTextBox_TextChanged() { MyTextBox.Clear(); }
14:53
wow, cool!

It would be nice if you do things like: (I'll try to describe what's possible with ordinary equipment)
set the screen to display 1 reasonably thin white vertical line on black background
and take some photos of it while rotating the camera right-to-left or the opposite, with short exposures — so if it flickers, the line will not be "continuously" blurred
Exposure should be as fast as possible while it's still enough light to see something useful.
and test it at brightness levels 100%, 40%, 30% I think…
So everytime they typed something, it cleared the box and they couldn't figure out why they weren't typing anything ha.
hahahahaha
and I'm sure it will attract visitors if you post it on your blog
I saw you have one
I have a blog?
You should create a "programming gems" category
Humor
14:54
hmm, a website
I'll give this a shot sometime today, though
thank you 8)
I am just thinking to stop dealing with these stupid other-manufacturer-made phones with stupid Android update delays and other stupid problems, but this one potential issue is very important and this phone is not available in our local stores so I can't just come in and look at it… :/
anyone got an Android m device that can test something for me?
@RaghavSood is captioner a meme generator?
Yeah, except there are no preloaded memes
15:01
I guess, Google-made devices can upgrade to new Android (incl.beta) versions at any time?
not all of them
for example Nexus One is no longer supported
hmmmm
so there is a limited lifespan for all devices?
Planned obsolescence or built-in obsolescence in industrial design is a policy of planning or designing a product with an artificially limited useful life, so it will become obsolete, that is, unfashionable or no longer functional after a certain period of time. The rationale behind the strategy is to generate long-term sales volume by reducing the time between repeat purchases (referred to as "shortening the replacement cycle"). Companies that pursue this strategy believe that the additional sales revenue it creates more than offsets the additional costs of research and development and opportunity...
Even Galaxy Nexus is done since 4.3
15:09
@codeMagic are you a NSA spy?
I would tell you be then I'd have to kill you
That means no, he just likes to sound threatening.
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And from this day on, @McAdam331 never showed up on room-15 again
15:17
Mauker wouldn't you miss me?
I would
hahahahaha
Wow I got 4 stars for that joke? I didn't even think it was that funny. I'll take it, though.
15:20
Whey just followed after me
And I like to put stars wherever I like even if that doesn't make sense
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I doubt that you will star this.
Guys, is AWS really worth the price?
what is AWS?
Amazon Web Services
LOL I just got hailed as "God Programmer" from a muslim
15:24
lol
AWS is only worth it if you really need that flexible scaling
Otherwise Linode or DigitalOcean are easier to maintain
I just got $75 free credit from atlassian
idk about it
Best decision of the day: new WordPress theme.
This image basically describes Room 15...
user image
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My nexus 10 not starting - this is a good morning
15:29
woaaah
is the old n10?
nice Adam
@CptEric is there a new one?
material <3
15:29
It is probably refurbished; android 5.1.1
Good question Warren
I figured it goes well with the theme of my blog posts.
@Eenvincible have you tried recovery > wipe caches?
you mean hold down the volume button with power button?
@McAdam331 fix that search bar!!!
I know, that's the only thing that's off. :( It's not that bad though.
15:33
yea...get into recovery and choose wipe caches. might help
@Eenvincible if it's the same problem as my nexus 7
let it charge during 1 hour
then press power + vol down 25 seconds
then i'tll start
1 hour ahha I feel sad having to wait that long; it was 100% charged when I shut it down last night
I tried this with my friend's nexus one
it's the most awesome thing
sometimes at 30 min it works
15:34
well my Galaxy Nexus randomly discharges even when turned off
Let me try that
it's a problem with discharging compeltely
not sure why... but it happens around 50% of the time
my samsung galaxy tab 10.1 not starting
what's wrong with the fucking samsung
15:37
everything.gif
none of the edittext password inputtypes work in Android M, what is going on
argh
It is Samsung, after all! Ask @cM
how has nobody noticed this
passwords are so 2014...
sorry red, can't help
maybe when everyone gets a fingerprint scanner I just use that
going to open an issue in the bug tracker though
15:39
i suppose it's a carpet bug that nobody cared during 6.0 devolopment
@jyoon it just went berserk. wont turn on.
my dad's tab s loses battery percent while charging
that happens with my galaxy s4
what is wrong with them on M red?
passwords are not hidden
in edittext when you use inputtype textPassword
15:51
?
I've done it in the past. I'm pretty sure it was
preview 3?
I feel like the guy making us compatible with M here would have noticed that by now
i'll try with a blank project
shit... it's my project, how embarrasing
still makes no sense mind you
@Mauker I got this fixed about 3 days ago
getting them to release is the hard part
@Reno how?
16:06
Black magic and blood sacrifices
seems fun
Welcome to Samsung
Huh
ctrl+t on mac swaps the last two letters of the last word
Lets just say no cats were harmed
Leftover from Emacs, apparently
16:10
does anyone know of any setting that might suddenly make passwords visible app wide?
hahahaha
seems to be every edittext I create in my app
something weird has changed
Does your parent theme style override the password type?
doesn't look like it, only thing I changed recently was textprimarycolor
user457812
Need more owls.
16:13
Swap your parent theme for a normal one, see if that fixes it
trying now, maybe it's something to do with AppCompat
it is the theme
kill me
good thing I had meetings all day to mask my productiveness of nothing
i even opened a bloody ticket on the issue tracker
16:23
thanks for pointing me in the right direction @RaghavSood
<item name="textAllCaps">false</> caused it
what the hell...
?¿
that makes no sense at all
getActivity() is a good way to access context on a Fragment?
yeah, very odd
yes Mauker
it's THE (registered trademark) way to do so
XD
16:29
It feels odd
hahaha
thanks
lunch time
i know
see ya guys
they could just create a
getContext()
that could just do the same
Yeah, indeed
and avoid Gramatical issues
16:37
whattttttt iadded textAllCaps back and passwords are still hidden
what the hell did I just spend my day doing
Android
Been there, done dat.
@RaghavSood works only in a terminal…
i spent all day fixing a json parsing
couldn't made it work
coworker comes at afternoon, runs for first time
everything works
i suspect the backend guys broke something and fixed it during lunchtime.
meetings meetings meetings
mmm

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