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18:20
I see this place has the usual level of developer cheer and optimism ;)
MERLIN
you're goddam right I'm cheerful.
watches way too much breaking bad
Coding is a powerful profession we are in the process of making peoples jobs obselete
except our own.
alex jones was right
Hey @Reno how goes it? @nebulae I'm still in the dark with breaking bad ... should I get sucked into the vortex of the magic picture box for that many hours?
18:31
One day we will make politicians redundant as well
@Merlin only if you like being happy.
omg can that day come SOON?
Coders will code other people's jobs have changed to compile lists of things coders need to fix or rip up and start again because they've changed their minds ... again!
Me? I've been hiding in all the duvets I own pretending nothing really matters
Have you make the wall.e robot work on AI?
I have the brain working, he talks and I took a sojourn into the world of 3d printing to make some custom parts ... I have to pick them up from my friends house. Recently I've been busy with work but had a little time to do some more 3d work ... brb
.. but wall.e does not talk in the movie :(
18:35
@Reno he has a limited vocabulary ... but he does talk ... of a fashion
@nebulae I was thinking about the maps not loading
I know this might not be the best way of doing it
I also got him to activate spotify on my PC over a radio link when I ask him to ... great when coming back home from the pub :)
Awesome
maybe you can have a counter of how many rows there are on your list and then subclass SupportMapFragment and add each map by code...
18:39
If you have spotify premium you can get a developer key so you could probably do the same kind of thing with an android handset and voice recog over wifi
well, i was adding each map programmatically, with a custom list adapter
the problem goes beyond that i believe. lemme find the docs i read...
I dont like the word programmatically
Too verbose.
@Octavian The unicorn was for your benefit
Has anybody seen the oct-meister around here recently?
Who is this person you are talking about
it would be easier if you could just load each map statically as part of your custom row xml...
18:43
Octavian Damien??? The guy who started the room?
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Q: Multiple map views?

ChristianI have an application that has two map views one satellite and one street view. They both keep showing up as a satellite view even though one is set to setStreetView(true); and the other is set to setSattelite(true);. How would I get it so that both views show different maps? Thanks in advance.

that was one of them
anyway, one map view per activity or things break bad.
maybe theres some workaround but those mapviews are pretty heavy, webviews are working ok for me right now :) thanks for the advice tho...
@Reno I'll stop using that word. instead I'll say "with java code"
jajajaj
well, i was adding each map with java code, with a custom list adapter, in java code.
18:46
"dynamically" is a better word
via java code that I write
in java
with some dynamic java
code
code-ception
no problem
don't want
18:48
you when you were doing the ListView and only one map showed you were not trying to use SupportMapFragment?
Sorry
hey can I pass a JSONObject into a webview or do I need to pass a string and parse that into json in the JS?
I was using the SupportMapFragment.... dynamically... with java code.
ok
hahaha dynamically...
posted on September 05, 2013 by Tor Norbye

We've just released Android Studio 0.2.7. This release contains a number of really important fixes: IDEUpdated the IDE base to the IntelliJ EAP build #132.27 sources (previously, we've used nightly snapshots)Editing.aar (Android Archive files, which are used when you for example use a Gradle dependency on the support library) are now properly handled by the editors. In earlier versions, the lay

go ahead and try it, you'll see what I mean pretty quick
18:51
The subs are wrong. DYNAMICALLY
I can't believe I used to watch this
hehe :)
neither can I. believe.
BELIEVE IT
I used to watch hercules.
with the centaur.
I loves that centaur. I wanted to BE a centaur.
Can't beat Ulysses 2031
18:54
Saint Seiya anyone?
@nebulae Have a unicron instead :)
hahah unicron :)
b.b.b.b.but that's a thing right? Just not the thing I wanted to type doh
I have to watch U2031 now
After I finish Gintama
I answered my own question. cannot pass JSONObject. must pass primitive. meh.
I'm remembering why i dont like working with webviews now
19:04
Googling how to pretend being an adult
actually these webviews work pretty good.
Good you are now ready for the Firefox OS
ha
hahah
yah ok
actually, I'm looking forward to spikes browser
have you seen?
Whoa I just learnt about this from you now
looks pretty cool hey?
19:14
I wonder what she replied
I bet she was expecting diamonds.
:D
I got an offer from Spikes yesterday. I think I'm gonna take it.
gratz. what do they do?
they're making a secure browser
19:22
wow nice @nebulae
hey @Pyrodante :)
how are you doing?
Im good
swamped as usual
hows you? whats new?
I am making SOAP calls... so not so good
my baby is a month and a half old now
yay! congrats
19:24
I find babies scary but congrats
bow before your future dictator
aww omg
adorable
also: laundry!
haha cute
19:25
Thats the winner
:)
Hah
user457812
And that's another job application rejected outright.
oh hey nil, what?
you're rejecting applications?
user457812
I applied for a developer job last night and it was rejected 12 hours later.
user457812
19:28
That makes it a record for me, seeing as most never respond.
Oh that sucks
I find that weird as Ive looked through your github repos and find you to be quite employable.
Where did you apply?
user457812
Centene Corporation. They're sort of regional in that they have an office in Montana.
19:30
You could always apply for Metova vOv
@nil, neudesic is always hiring, and they have a lot of remote employees. if you don't mind consulting.
user457812
My first programming job was a consulting contract
user457812
And last, technically.
they would want you to work with a team though. a team of people. like, humans.
Actually Metova is aggressively hiring right now
user457812
19:32
I'll look at them. I don't keep up on companies.
I don't see any beavers
Lies!
Found this on there :D
I'll take it back then :> NO, I WON'T TAKE IT BACK
I googled it
19:37
Is drinking wine with cheese acceptable dinner
depends on the type of cheese
I lost the box so I don't know
The latest episode was sad
I think he's going to die
same here
No. Stop.
19:40
thats exactly what Vince wants you to think.
> 403 Forbidden
better?
Ah now
I liked it better when it was not showing
:|
user457812
I don't recognize the "the protagonists are the others" one
user457812
19:52
Unless it's literally a reference to The Others (that Kidman movie)
20:02
Guess the guys at Hot Watch Kickstarter Project are more than a little pissed by the Galaxy Gear ... how to kill a crowd-funded project ... way to go Samsung
Still at least it looks better than the Gear
The gear is 300$
$300 a waste of money for an ugly accesory
Patented (Patent number 8,515,505) Hands on Talk Technology ... hmm I wonder if Samsung licensed it???
@nil Lost, perhaps? But i'm not sure I agree if the Others are really supposed to be the protagonists
Anyone wants a cheap VPS in US?
20:16
how cheap? (I'm interested)
user457812
@DavidMays Never saw it, so I have no idea.
don't bother watching past 2nd season. seriously.
20:40
you know what always messed me up going from java to javascript and vice versa?
what?
the for(foo : bar) vs for(foo in bar)
I was surprised too when I saw it for the first time, but I am glad there is such a construct in Java at least, shitty syntax or not
user457812
I like for (foo <- bar)
@mistrfu ty....I'll chekc them out
20:43
np
lol nil
user457812
Scala. It has things.
I was just alt tabbing back to say must be a scala thing
but you won
I really do like arrow syntax. it makes sense.
I think it has one too many characters
what about: for foo ← bar do that
;)
user457812
It's technically not a for loop either.
20:47
see row 1 col 3 for the cat
what is it technically?
user457812
It's a for comprehension.
if it starts with for and its not a for loop, then scala is confusing.
user457812
for (x <- y) yield x returns a y.type[x.type], sort of.
user457812
So if y is an Option[Float] and x is a Float, yield x returns an Option[Float]
user457812
20:54
113
Q: What is Scala's yield?

TempusI understand Ruby and Python's yield. What does Scala's yield do?

user457812
Basically that.
kinda pythony
user457812
More or less the same as python, albeit just via syntactic sugar
STOP READING MY BRAIN
user457812
I was just pointing out what you said was correct -_-
20:57
oh
haha
then start reading my brain
user457812
I'd probably hate the ability to read other people's brains.
user457812
The eyes are green. Your cat is now charged. Please unplug your cat. http://t.co/UWgWDfT39k
user457812
How the hell do I link tweets.
user457812
There we go.
my kid dropped into to comp sci today.
2 days in and she was like, nope. I dont think so.
21:00
into to?
I mean dropped comp sci
I mean no
she dropped intro to comp sci
gosh that was hard
that makes a lot more sense
yah well
you lost me for a while there
I know what i meant
21:01
tell her to learn javascript and save your money.
user457812
University or just like a kid kid?
nil knew what i meant
10th grade
user457812
Was going to say, 2 days into university and changing your major..
user457812
Quite a lot of breathing room if someone's in 10th grade though.
yah, she changed it to japanese... so thats cool =) I guess.
still, I was all stoked to do her homework for her
user457812
21:03
I tried to get my sister into programming, but that never worked.
she said it was super uncomfortable, the m/f ratio was like 25/2
which i can relate to, was the same for me in uni
user457812
Yeah, there were only two women in the two CS classes I did take.
I wanted my wife to learn Haskell .. she didn't.
the other girl in my class was this (I thought) nice indian lady
she stole my work and tried to pass it off as her own
the prof figured it out, almost failed ME for it.
user457812
How nice
21:08
lol right?
user457812
I don't know why someone would go into CS and then cheat.
I was totally floored, she seemed all sweet and mild mannered
user457812
Or really any program. What're you going to do with a degree if you cheated and don't know what you're doing? O_o
she was in way over her head though, and had a really hard time speaking up and asking for help,
it was a very culturally diverse class and she got steamrolled by a few of the other guys in there, the ones who thought she should be home with the kids making dinner. I felt bad for her.
Im sure they thought the same of me :)
user457812
Ugh.
21:12
25/2 ration? wow.
user457812
I don't know that I ever saw that happen with either of the women in my class, but I honestly didn't pay that much attention to any of my classmates unless they asked for help.
user457812
Hopefully the situation's better now, but I have no idea.
this was over 15 years ago now.
I bet things have changed
professionally, Ive never seen any scenario like that.
Fun fact: In Iran 60% of the Comp Science graduates are female. Which is a lot more than in any other country.
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user457812
I think the only thing I worry about right now is that even if "brogramming" was originally a joke, it seems to have somehow become real.
user457812
21:15
And Iran wins.
user457812
If it's in the 50% range or thereabouts, that's where it's supposed to be.
I think Ive only ever worked with 2 other female programmers in all my career. and Ive been on a lot of teams.
most of the time they seem to go into management of some sort, really fast
user457812
My hope is that if I ever get a programming job, I don't end up in management.
user457812
I likes my problem solving funtime.
lol, Ive resisted so hard.
I don't want to manage anyone. I wanna sit n code.
on that note, Ive been asked to be on a sxsw panel o.o
Im scared
so scared. omg.
21:19
What's that?
I said yes because Ive got like, 6 months to prepare
user457812
It's a slight concern for me because every group project I had in university ended up with me as the person leading it despite me always trying to put it on someone else. >_>
user457812
Eh, panels are fun.
Oh never mind googled it :P
user457812
21:20
Though I also like speaking in front of an audience even though it terrifies me.
I don't do public speaking. its not my thing.
I don't like communication in any form I can't backspace
guys I need some advice from you
user457812
I did public readings of my work and volunteered for presenting things, so I kind of got used to it.
I am trying to learn proper ways of coding, trying to get better overall
user457812
Maybe it's a stockholm syndrome thing..
21:23
I have seen that Google published the 2013 io source code
do you think it can be a good reference?
user457812
shrug
Yes
It's good
You can learn about networking, handling Android's fragmentation, responsive design and a lot more
user457812
I usually just refer to the source code 'cause I want to know exactly what a method does.
user457812
Android's documentation is rarely sufficient. >_>
Heh me too
21:27
yeah I figured they will implement everything the correct way
do you guys have an idea of how long it will take a programmer to code all that? is it just one person or this app is big enough for a team?
user457812
Code all what?
user457812
Oh, right, the app.
The IO app?
the google io app
yes
user457812
What's it say if you run cloc on it?
21:29
sorry, what is a cloc?
I think the IO app was made by Roman Nurik and only a few others.
user457812
user457812
Also applicable is sloccount, but it doesn't recognize as many things
I will look into it, I am getting off work right now
talk to you guys later
thanks for the info
nil, thanks for cloc, haven't used it before and it's awesome
21:34
running my first cloc command
user457812
I only really use it to see if something I did reduced the amount of code I have.
user457812
Less code is usually an improvement, anyway.
Current desktop for the work VM
@RaghavSood YOOO!!
user457812
My desktop's never visible.
21:37
so GoogleIO app is just 16k of java source
hmm it's alright
Considering it's only a schedule app
Mine is currently 10k :(
But I'll get rid of half of them by the time I am done
@nil I know usually mine is not either but its just something i kinda wanted to have some fun with... To me the desktop is an extension of the person or people behind it. Its the place where you can show off who you are and its the first thing people usually see.
.. the person or people in front of it?
So according to this theory I'm really untidy
21:39
because if you sit behind your monitor, you cant get much done...
user457812
In that case, I will show you mine.
here is the cloc
And not organized at all?
I thought that was nils desktop for a minute
hahah
21:40
You don't need a GUI, when you have your terminal
@nil I will bother you later
got to go
bye all
bye
is it wallpaper sharing time?
Reminds me. My Comp Science teacher said this today: The terminal is used to run programs, that you can't run in a normal way. Programs, that are downloaded illegally for example.
user457812
O_o
user457812
user457812
21:43
My wallpapers.
WHAT
WHAT??
your comp sci teacher said that?
Yeah. No joke.
user457812
It's funny how un-computer-savvy CS instructors are. Usually because they're actually math instructors.
Gotta love that women :)
my desktop:
21:44
Yup, she is a math teacher as well.
those are not excuses. those are reasons. all valid.
user457812
"I can't test everything" really is a valid excuse.
user457812
21:46
You ever tried doing OpenGL unit testing? Holy crap the things people will do to religiously adhere to unit testing.
yay for sublime text
what a great app
Yeah :D
I love it
me too
How did you do that thing with the terminal?
user457812
I'd guess iterm2.
21:48
Looks neat
its total terminal
user457812
Either that or the old plugin for that thing that lets you use terminal in a quake style.
between that and geektools...
cool! thanks
I have it mapped to option~ for things that need to be fast
user457812
21:50
Yeah, looks like it's the same as visor.
@nil That link looking thing in the wallpaper... Was that from the anime Humanity has declined?
I have honestly been wanting to use Sublime text. :(
Use it
Now!
DO IT!
It's awesome
I think ST3 beta is already out
I haven't updated yet though
21:56
Anyway to integrate android SDK into it? -- Kinda stupid question since people have been doing it to fucking VIM but I wanted to ask.
Android SDK? o0
You want to do Android development on it?
Of course.
I havent tried but Im sure its not a problem, just have to do the adb foo through console
maybe write some build scripts
Could be a fun project. I kinda want to buy it now but I'm majorly lacking in funds still.
for ant
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Q: Developing Android on Sublime Text 2

Matīss Jānis ĀboltiņšI wanted to start developing for Android, but found it terribly hard to set everything up so it would work on Sublime Text 2. I know that I'm supposed to download and set up the Android SDK, but how, where and why? And how do I compile my projects and run them? This is a complete mystery to me....


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