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00:29
Good morning guys
00:42
lol Niko what are you doing here? :p
I'm back on developing iOS now lolol
And swift 2.2 is really different compared to the beta version of swift
it's really nice language
ahahahahahaha
 
2 hours later…
02:34
@NikoYuwono LOLLLLL
Welcome back to the light side.
@EnricoSusatyo Haha, are you still developing IoT apps Enrico?
Yeah.
Not really focused on the IoT side, but yea still has that component.
You still doing those?
I'm mixing Swift in as well once a while... But when touching old code I still use a lot of Obj-C.
It's very time consuming if I was to rewrite all in Swift.
02:53
Nope, I'm on medical side now lol
Hmmm, you can try to rewrite it per module
which I'm also doing right now
have you ever heard of protocol extension?
it's really nice feature in swift 2
Yep
But still there's no point since there's no feature upgrade by converting language
Because I have a backlog of features that needs to be implemented.
Also, for some reason I can't figure out how to share @property declared in .m to the .swift class.
03:51
Hmm I think because the header is being imported in the bridge header file, you can't use the property inside .m
 
1 hour later…
05:20
Hi @NikoYuwono @EnricoSusatyo good morning
Good morning @harish
No need to ping everyone.
Jay
Jay
anyone ever used OBjectMapper from cocoa pods?
i wanted to know if there was a way to combine two variables
Mmmm no I haven't.
Closest one I've used is RestKit, but I'm kinda slightly against it. Not as stable as I'd hoped.
05:46
hi @EnricoSusatyo
ಠ_ಠ @GurumoorthyArumugam
@EnricoSusatyo how are you
bai
bai @harish
bai @GurumoorthyArumugam
@EnricoSusatyo having issue in
05:47
need help. how can i achieve this @EnricoSusatyo ?
mac application
my button is not visible @EnricoSusatyo
@GurumoorthyArumugam did you worked on the mac application?
@harish nope only iOS and Android
@EnricoSusatyo did you wored on the mac application
Jesus Christ, you guys.
Guys, as per room rules. Don't ping them particularly :)
05:58
:)
Enrico you have any idea in my question
i can't find any best algorithm
@GurumoorthyArumugam should we use algorithm for solve this?
yeah do you have any other idea ?
If you guys don't stop I am going to lock the room and kick you all out
Don't ping people for no reason
06:21
we stopped already
scary borrrden :o
Is that your interview question?
no i'm preparing for interview
I'm sure if you show some people what you have tried so far and where it is going wrong they will give you some help
06:25
ok fine. i'm trying something will post here once its done.
@borrrden did any one know about the mac development
LOLOLOLOLOL
Lock it, borrden. Party's over.
Also Guru, read an algorithm and data structure book – every programmer should read it at least once.
Those kind of questions are covered there.
Ok fine, have you read it before? if so can suggest me some books?
Well I used this at university...
Introduction to Algorithms is a book by Thomas H. Cormen, Charles E. Leiserson, Ronald L. Rivest, and Clifford Stein. It is used as the textbook for algorithms courses at many universities and is commonly cited as a reference for algorithms in published papers, with over 8900 citations documented on CiteSeerX. The book sold half a million copies during its first 20 years. Its fame has led to the common use of the abbreviation "CLRS" (Cormen, Leiserson, Rivest, Stein), or, in the first edition, "CLR" (Cormen, Leiserson, Rivest). == Editions == The first edition of the textbook did not include Stein...
But that question you posted... It sounds quite easy and you should be able to do it without reading the book.
06:50
ok thanks
 
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08:12
Morning
Sorry @Owatch didn't get a chance to go through your math problem yesterday
will try and find time today
08:41
It has been resolved.
But thanks.
09:10
kk
What was the answer ?
was it correct ?
09:41
I am working on osx drivers.. If anybody know some forums or people who work on drivers for osx , please let me know
It wd be nice if someone can help with the question
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Q: Symbols not found - IOUSBHostHIDDevice - OSX kext

matt007I had to convert an existing driver to OSx10.11 (Previous Question). I have replaced the deprecated and removed classes and methods to new ones introduced in 10.11. Now the kext builds successfully but cannot load the driver. The OSBundleLibraries was updated after issuing command kextlibs -x...

09:59
Hardcore, i played around with it once but i cant be of any use tbh. Your question gets an upvote though
10:16
Thankyou Dev2rights. I am kind of in a stuck situation, as I cannot figure out what needs to be done to make progress.
are you building some funky custom hardware?
I am trying to convert existing driver to support OSx 10.11. The hardware is gaming mouse and game pad.
OSx 10.11 redesigned the whole usb stack.
And drivers need to be updated for the same
@all Hello! Can anyone provide a clarification on this, please? I have a similar question like this.

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28396357/ios-trial-app-without-in-app-purchase-mechanism

Does freemium app model work in this case? Or Apple will still reject Trial/Demo apps?
10:26
@DoNotDisplayMyName They will reject it.
or you will have to use apple subscription models.
and apple will get it share
@matt007 Thanks for the suggestion. But, what if the client wants the trail app to have full functionality? (It is mainly because the app has very limited functionality, without that the app is nothing)
You can not release the app with greyed out functionality.
So you need to remove it completley
Or
You will have to give them a subscription through the store and give them a free 14 days trial. You cant avoidf paying Apple to do that
your client will need to suck it up
Haha.. I will let my client know that is the only option. Or he can simply put it as paid version
yes.. that might be the best option. Some things simple doesnt work out with apple.
10:41
Thank you :)
Your uisng there infrastructure
they want a cut
However 30% is too much, IMO. And then it is always unto the clients and users
 
4 hours later…
14:31
@Dev2rights It was not correct. I had forgotten to normalize the vector when I was done with the expression. That was why it was different.
ahh
cool
14:51
Sigh. The things I go through.
Anyways, using my book now instead of an internet reference. Much better. Since it was based on the book.
kk good luck
It's not for school btw.
Trying to figure out how to compute roots of polynomials easily.
This is one technique that took me a while to find, you can use some other stuff like Eulers method to try and approximate it but they depend on initial estimates being close enough which I couldn't figure out how to do in a way that a computer might.
cool , whats it for ?
A project of mine.
Something that does calculations for you.
Derivates, etc already figured out.
cool sounds like a good way to learn higher maths
15:00
Problem was why you can use pythagoras to solve second order polynomials
There is no such formula for anything after 4th degree.
Or no known method for solving them.
yeah
makes sense
and surely it needs to work to the nth degree too
So there are only a couple things you can do. One was to try and approximate.
Using Eulers method basically.
But if your estimate is off at all, then it actually diverges or cycles.
And you never get to the root. And thats a nightmare for me to handle.
yeah sounds liek a nightmare to debug
15:02
And there's no actual way to get a good estimate as far as I know. I saw something that tried using a method where you begin at points and have them all simultaneously converge/diverge by applying the algorithm. But they might all diverge if they are picked wrong. And how do you even begin?
What if an equation crosses zero at x = 100000
Then what. How many points do I spawn. IDK...
So I binned it.
And looked more, found you could do it by creating a companion matrix for a polynomial, and then compute the eigenvalues for it. Which is what I'm doing. Since doing that requires finding the eigenvalues, and that requires the QR factorization method, which in turn requires the Gram-Schmidt process or whatnot.
Cool
Matrices are damn useful in a lot of areas of math, i only learned them when doing Geometry tbh
but a friend who has a masters in Mathematics was showing me some of the uses in other areas
this is an interesting one
Don't worry. I'll probably get it working for one or two easy examples. Then have it be completely inadequate for all other use.
Well keep at it, this stuff isn't easy
Matrices and Vector's are damn useful for loads of things
Im guesing you have used them a lot though in your course right ?
A little, it's a course I'm currently taking.
But we're in the beginning.
However, I had used matrices earlier in another course, so I knew basic vector operations, etc.
yeah
i will say this though
FUQ rounding errors
Always get tripped up on roundign errors
as i always presume ive done somethign wrong
15:10
My book warns about that.
lost 3 hours today with it
I don't know how it would matter that much unless you're doing some super precise stuff though?
well when calculating postions things skip and you don't knwo why
integer overflow errors are a pita too
ITs unavoidable though with floats
I'm seeing you working on some sort of 3D game.
And the door just won't close right.
0.9999999 - 0.0000001 = 0.9999998000000001
15:14
jesus.
yeah
so annoying
im trying to abuse numbers here though to get a feature to work
it causes issues when you are multiplying many values as that oveflow adds up
and when rounded can push the thing a whole unit out e.t.c.
What are you doing to fix it?
There is usually a round function that sets all the leadign bits to 0's in most languages
previous things i have done is using fixed point math
which is fun
but a total head job
using doubles which are more accurate in things like Java as they don't use the FPP
but is slower as it isn't dedicated
one trick is to multiply the number by say 100000 , do the equation and then divide it back down by 100000 when your done
ooooh.
or do the same thing shifting the bits and shifting down when done, you lose accuracy of the end though
depends how accurate you need to be
 
4 hours later…
19:01
Hey has anyone ever used PubNub before?
No?
I can't figure out how to download their SDK
they give me the command line code but I keep getting error messages
@Owatch do you know command line code very much?
I don't know, if its their own set of commands I wouldn't.
Just use my terminal for compiling in C, Java, and using git.
 
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20:37
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Q: how to customise AppRTC to receive call

Durai Amuthan.HI have integrated AppRTC in my project and I am able to join the WebRTC call in the room of https://apprtc.appspot.com using RoomName appClient = ARDAppClient(delegate: self) appClient?.createLocalMediaStream() appClient?.connectToRoomWithId(String(roomId), options: nil) I am abl...

21:14
trivia question for anyone who cares -- I see some questions where people talk about being already able to compile with Swift 3, but I don't think that's in an Xcode beta yet. Or am I missing something?
 
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22:28
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