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6:07 AM
testing room dao with flow runBlocking keeps running for ever without completing. Not sure what's the cause any one with similar issues?
 
 
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8:54 AM
good morning!
 
9:11 AM
Morning!
I have an application conversation at 1330 im nervous cause I dk what to choose
 
9:50 AM
Just fly with your gut, it will work out
 
My gut says do the package delivery and wait till covid settles down
In the meantime realize the app im working on
But society says "waste of talent, you just graduated"
 
Than do that
nothing wrong with that
 
You are an employer right WarrenFaith
 
if you share your app afterwards and you can use it as a reference, its fine
no, I work in a company but I am also responsible within the hiring process
I know both sides of the interview table
 
morning everyone
 
10:05 AM
@WarrenFaith how would you respond to someone who has been working sidejobs for a year after graduation?
Is that a red flag or not?
 
10:16 AM
@MwBakker It is only a waste of talent if you are talented to begin with
 
Touche
 
Tim
@MwBakker him not replying should say enough right
 
Maybe he's busy
 
10:30 AM
A side job outside your "profession" is not a red flag. When you do your own app in the mean time it is even more like a dedication to that app.
A red flag is for me someone who only lives in his profession. Like programming as profession and when asked for hobbies he says "programming".
You need something off work to balance out (and no Netflix is not a valid hobby imho)
 
Lol alright
Im considering doing the package delivery so I still get the physical labour I know lack (gyms are closed) and I get to be outside
 
just make sure you tell in your CV that you worked in that side project app during your side job
 
Also I can work on my app in the meantime
I will
 
I live by the phrase: "I made my hobby to be my job"... this being said: I rarely program during my free time
 
Shall I inform the company why I am in this dillema? Will that be appreciated or will this work against me?
After all I just want to be on my highest productivity
Which I am afraid I wont be working from home (but remote is a different story)
All in all: being at the same place every day doesn't work for my character
 
10:36 AM
You mean when declining their offer?
 
When saying im in consideration
 
I would just say you need x days for consideration for their offer. And than you can say yay or nay but you should not go into much details why
honestly: not their fucking business
 
But if I ever do want to work for them after covid they may say "well well well, look who came back in with its tail between his legs"
@WarrenFaith my dad told me the same
 
hm... you could say that you appreciate their offer but you decided to go on with a project that is limited but not yet sure for how long and that you would like to come back when this is done to apply again if the position is still open
 
@WarrenFaith yeah that could be possible
 
10:41 AM
the main key is being polite and nice
 
I always am
But sometimes also too honest
 
worst thing is when you say nay and come back like a week later because than everyone know you speculated on getting another job and it fails and they are just a "backup" now
 
yup
 
@Developer00 sorry, your Q:A ratio is 7:1 and therefore Germany wins. Based on our rules I can't let you in. Try to answer some questions and give back to the community!
 
But if you say you have other talks and then choose them you let them know they are a well considerated and thoughtthrough choice
 
10:44 AM
true
 
This was the most starred message last year on this day:
Jan 21 '20 at 12:27, by Raghav Sood
grrigore? More like grrignored
 
Last question: if covid is over, the app is finished and I decide to go abroad for a project abroad: you think the lack of work experience will take its toll?
For example a project in northern Spain or such
 
Well, the only thing I would say you are lacking experience of might be in regards to team work and processes
you need to make sure that your app as a project is dominantly shown, best case with store link
also make sure that you used some things like testing, CI, maybe even ticketing on your app project, this way you can honestly say that you worked with the default setup you would also expect in a team
 
11:50 AM
Ticketing?
 
Tim
making tickets
 
I didnt perform testing myself other than unit testing
@Tim like penalty tickets?
 
Tim
make feature X, fix bug Y, those kind
 
@MwBakker unit tests are good, be ready to share some metrics like line coverage etc
 
@Tim did that with scrum
 
11:52 AM
and yes: tickets like a story to describe a feature, than sub tasks that split the work needed to be done in technical tasks like "create database", "implement ui", "create animations" etc
 
Alright
Ill be leaving soon
 
12:04 PM
finally figured out that it was not runBlocking causing the test to never complete. Using toList did. Repalcing it first works fine. wated almost a good 3 hrs on this
 
Tim
the terminal operator that never terminates
 
yes its confusing cause the dev docs say using list should work.
Fake repo pattern here https://developer.android.com/kotlin/flow/test
i might have found the reason here stackoverflow.com/questions/62499073/…
 
1:08 PM
alarm manager is killing me
x.x
 
that is quite alarming...
 
1:40 PM
Just finished the interview
They want new software for functions inside their new factory which is something I immediatly became enthousiastic about
Except for that most software is written in visual basic, still!
So I told them that if they want me, they need to be open to adapt to full C#. Net or related software languages
Or that, if I would be creating the software I would rather not do it in ancient languages
I dk maybe I had too much critique at the developper that was included in the interview, I asked a lot of "why" at their developping processes
They maybe think Im a bit of a jerk, but at least they know what I stand for and that furtheron im enthousastic about their operations
I also told my handicaps since its not only about good things, being perfectionistic was maybe a red flag to them cause I hammered on wanting to use more modern languages at new produced software
 
what lang are they currently doing it in?
@MwBakker everyone answers perfectionist, it's a cliche. Don't think that will hurt or help you.
 
Tim
VB
@MwBakker I don't think they think that. "Why?" is the best question you can ask as a programmer and it shows you're curious and eager to learn
 
1:57 PM
I think it also depends on the tone. If you say "why" in a curious way, then I complete agree with Tim. However if you ask it in a critical like "thats stupid, why would you do that" way, it's definitively bad.
 
Visual basic, php sql html/css
At a sudden point the developper had defended himself "learning C# is on my list" but I mean.. Why not immediatly
@Tim i wasnt just curious, I was frustrated. Im not going to work with ancient languages on new high tech stuff
@JBis i didnt say perfectionist, I told him how my tunnelvision costed me half a year delay on school and brought some trouble during my internship
Then the discussion about "why VB" came along and I think I became too much of a risk at that point
But at least I have been utterly honest
 
How large is their codebase? Not easy or cheap to switch to a new lang
VB is def old. I don't think the rest are unreasonable.
 
Tim
how old was that developer?
 
My age
 
PHP sucks but it's not insanely out of date.
 
2:02 PM
@JBis then I guess Im not easy or cheap
 
Tim
interesting, in a bad way
2
 
Im just thinking along with them, you cant use that language on a process of which the machine costed a few million
 
Tim
> In the 2016, 2017, and 2018 Stack Overflow annual surveys, Visual Basic 6.0 maintained its spot as the most dreaded programming language among the respondents, with respectively 79.5%, 88.3%, and 89.9% votes.
 
Dreaded is bad right?
 
Tim
yes
 
2:04 PM
I mean no offense to VB, it was good back in its day.. Probably
 
Tim
like to be scared of having to work in VB
 
But just not relevant anymore
 
Tim
especially for you, just looking for a nice starting job, time spent learning a legacy language like this is time wasted
 
^ agreed
You could also explain to him, it will be more expensive and more difficult to find vb devs.
 
Tim
I didn't realize how old it was really. The last release was in 1998 and microsoft stopped support in 2008
 
2:07 PM
@Tim right? I thought the same
 
Sidenote, I haven't done too much with it so maybe too early to tell but I'm liking c# a lot more than Java.
 
Welcome home, son
 
Nonamericans, will y'all be watching biden inauguration?
 
Tim
yeah
what time is it? We also have a curfew press conference to watch
 
2:23 PM
12PM EST
 
@Tim that was at 1pm
 
Tim
oh I though there was a follow up tonight
so curfew from 20.30 to 04.30
 
2:38 PM
@Tim they are not allowed on the streets at that time xD
If they really stand behind their idea
 
Tim
lol true XD
 
good luck with that mwb
 
yo
@JBis why would we?
 
just wondering
 
@Tim you seriously gonna watch it?
@Raghunandan oh nice catch
 
Tim
2:49 PM
what else is there to do
 
watch a movie?
sleep
 
literally anything else
 
Tim
please if you know of any good movies
I sometimes think we have seen them all
 
have you seen catch me if you can?
 
Tim
yes
that was nice
 
2:55 PM
spotlight?
 
Tim
yes last year actually, also nice
 
bb and I liked The Platform. Have you seen that?
 
The Lost City of Z?
 
Tim
no my girlfriend does not want to watch 'foreign' movies. I watched parasite by myself lol
 
well
 
2:57 PM
Tim, I think your girlfriends racist
 
aren't usa movies foreign?
 
Tim
yes hence the quotes
 
Concussion?
Some people hated, I thought it was very good
 
Tim
no
 
Frida (2002)
Dead Poets Society (1989)
Children of Men (2006)
 
3:04 PM
@Tim if you try lmk what you think.
Dark Waters was also really good.
I'm big fan of Mark Ruffalo
 
Tim
making note
 
You prob won't like but one of my favorites was The Big Short.
i think i've watched that movie over 10 times
 
no country for old men
 
Intersteller was also great movie. They published a study based on the science from the movie.
 
Tim
big short is really good
 
3:15 PM
@Tim wow racist
your gf only watches dutch movies then?
 
Tim
it's not racist if you don't try to hide it
 
so if you are open about being racist you stop being a racist
wow
@JBis hmm
 
3:29 PM
4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days (2007)
The Death of Mr. Lazarescu (2005)
Charleston (2017)
made in romania
 
4:09 PM
@ballBreaker @grrigore need help
 
Tim
boy are you pinging the wrong person
(not grrig)
 
where do you live tim?
 
australia
 
Tim
yeah I'm an aussie
cunt
 
poor aussie
 
4:14 PM
well I am offered job to sell leather products on ebay, amazon and they will provide me the accounts but idk anything bout how amazon ebay work
 
Probably a scam
 
and I don't wanna just get those accounts suspended
NO! I personally know this company, have worked for them in the past and their production capability is massive
 
whattsssuup
 
^
 
Tim
4:18 PM
why did they offer you a job you don't know how to do
 
Can't really answer that but think of it as just a part of the job
 
*part of the scam
 
Tim
part of what job
 
Not a scam 101% sure of that, but if you don't trust me..
@Tim I made them softwares and website
 
4:25 PM
hahaha
 
Tim
but you don't do that anymore
 
@Tim I am working for their sibling company rn, they produce bats for international cricket teams
 
Tim
ok
 
ex machina was a fun movie
you've probably seen it though tim
 
Tim
yes
 
4:31 PM
have you seen the original Old Boy
or if you're lookin for any action movies, the Raid movies are amazing action movies, like legit the best
The Raid: Redemption is fucking epic
 
calling someone a scammer is rude btw @RaghavSood
 
Tim
careful to speak against him he will ban you
2 hours ago, by Tim
no my girlfriend does not want to watch 'foreign' movies. I watched parasite by myself lol
 
like if I care
 
oh you're looking for ones to watch with her
scratch those off the list then lol
 
Tim
well we live together
 
4:34 PM
maybe you should watch Frozen
lmao fair
 
Tim
we've seen it man
 
xD haha
 
might as well watch biden's inauguration
 
imagine there was an assassination attempt
that would be exciting
I feel like the US is overdue on assassinations
 
no harris
 
Tim
4:35 PM
I'm watching the inauguration but mother of god I have trouble staying awake here
 
lmao
 
lol yeah I figured I'd just watch the highlight reel
 
Tim
there's like 100 random people lined up to make the same speech
 
jesus
I'd rather watch trump's sex tape than watch that
 
lmao
see told you should have elected trump atleast this inauguration would have been fun
 
4:37 PM
is it just a joke or something like that actually exists?
 
Tim
yeah man it's real
currently lady gaga singing the national anthem
 
@asim both haha
I don't think there's a publically available trump sex tape out there, but there's no way that one doesn't exist
 
Tim
actually that last part does not make it more believable I guess
 
lmao the last part makes it way more believable to me
 
imagine one getting leaked while he was president
 
4:39 PM
"and then kanye west puts the crown made of iphones on joe biden's head while lady gaga signs the national anthem. Ah true moment in our nation's history"
 
Tim
that would have been the 127th more embarrassing thing to have happened to him
 
apple if fucking garbage
and oAuth is fucking garbage
 
is* true
 
"ahhh and here comes brad pitt to recite the pledge of allegiance"
 
apple oAuth implementation is hot pile of shit
 
4:42 PM
steve jobs died for our sins and that's how you repay him Ivan?
 
inglorious bastards is fun movie
 
lol
 
yeah its fun to see jews portrayed as heros instead of cowards for once in a movie
 
Tim
wait lmao I'm watching the 2003 inauguration
JLo is on the stage
 
hahaha
 
4:47 PM
@ballBreaker I watched as comedy
 
yeah its a funny movie
 
who's gone
WHO?!?!?!
 
ahhh he's never gone, he will live on in our hearts forever
 
4:51 PM
oops maybe I'm in the wrong room ^^
 
haha
 
Tim
good to see that corona crisis is already over in the US
 
I have bad news for you if you think donald trump is going to disappear after today
 
hope didn't cross the line
 
hail donald trump xD
 
4:51 PM
@Tim haha I thought today is when everyone magically remembers that corona virus exists
 
@ballBreaker haha
 
@Chulo it loaded now
 
@asim yeah but nothing dangerous did happen at least
 
did anyone see the stuff on putin that's come out in the past day or two?
I thought that was way more interesting than the US stuff
 
putin is so bad***
 
4:56 PM
@ballBreaker nope, what happenned to him ?
 
yeah he's horrible
@Chulo Navalny released detailed investigations into Putin's wealth and corruption a day after he was arrested
and it's quite damning
 
interesting I will check
 
why would putin do corruption? he is the kim jong-un of russia
 
but anyway those guys no one can touch them
 
thats why it does't make sense
 
4:59 PM
I'm trying to find the actual documentary he made but im struggling
 
to shut down people
 
its buried by news articles about it
smh
@asim its because russia is not an actual dictatorship so it's corruption
ahh here it is
in case anyone is looking to burn 2 hours on an insanely interesting topic
 
OMG! deserve watching .. thanks
 
haha I started it last night expecting to skim it and ended up watching the whole thing with my eyes glued, really reveals how corrupt their putin government is
 
we are freeeeeee!
yay
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
 
5:13 PM
🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
but why
 
congrats on USA for doing the bare minimum wooo
hehe ;)
actually am happy for you guys though, hopefully things get better
I wonder what it's going to take to regain respect globally
 
thanks :D
 
congrats
 
hopefully it'll be like the obama admin and we barely ever hear anything xD
 
i have a feeling this will be an exceptionally great presidency
at least by my metrics
 
5:18 PM
yeah fair
by my metrics it will be the same shit different day haha
 
I hope that he will continue to withdraw troops from afghanistan putting an end to the war
 
i basically joined zoom and told my teacher "hi im watching inauguration so i'm not paying attention"
 
"lol jbis for the last time, I have a boyfriend"
 
lol what
 
lol
 
5:27 PM
hahah dont worry about it
 
Nov 9 '20 at 17:12, by ballBreaker
no sorry, my condition is that if you want to use me to become a Canadian you'll have to gay marry me
 
even in 2021 with a dem president we've got these religious hallelujah people
 
@ballBreaker yet you recently purposed gay marriage publicly to everyone
 
hahahaha
I'm an anomaly
@JBis I mean your country was founded on religious freedom (ie:extremism) as a founding tenet so I wouldn't be too surprised
 
blek
 
5:33 PM
hehehe
pew pew
 
ok im taking bets, how long till the next cnn alert about Trump?
 
uhhhh not sure what that even is
is that your guy's versions of amber alerts
 
CNN
nvm
 
lol is it like a news alert then?
sorry I don't watch news
and also like people to unnecessarily explain things that are mostly common sense
 
5:53 PM
@ballBreaker yeah, on your phone
 
ohhh lol that sounds really miserable, do you have that?
like you just get a notification about trump on your phone? fucking christ
do you think that affects your mental health at all?
 
a lot of people (most?) get news alerts on their phone
@ballBreaker meh, i like to stay informed
 
@JBis o.o for real?
 
the only annoying ones are pop culture shit
 
looks like 25% ish percent of people in the US use news apps
 
5:59 PM
"Kim Kardashian gets head stuck in chair" and shit like that
 
lol
damn dude, yeah I could never in my life do that
 
@ballBreaker Apple has a news app preinstalled that I think by default sends minimal alerts (can be turned off), then people add additional apps
 
the only notifications I want on my phone is shit that's directly related to me (email, text, messages)
god that's literally gross I can't believe you do that
 
You don't want to hear about Kim Kardashian's struggles?
Her life is really hard
 
haha god no
every celebrity could die right now and I literally wouldn't care
 
6:03 PM
i just don't get why people care about what they say and do
 
yeah me either
As much as I wanna call those people losers, I also do get it. Everyone has their own escapes. Mine is in fiction and for some people their escape is in reality but outside of themselves
 
@Tim tim is right
 
can parler.com come back already so someone can take it down?
we should create a volunteer bot net, we have scheduled DDOS sessions and you can choose to participate or not
 
Lol
 
6:24 PM
you want it to come back so it can get taken down again?
I'm just looking forward to like, 4 months in the future when I can start unblocking everything
although I feel like that's hopeful
 
@ballBreaker yes
 
6:40 PM
hehe oki
 
Ola Amigos
 
eyyyy!
how's it going man, long time
 
Yeah, think last time I was in here someone pissed me off XD
I've got a low tolerance these days
 
hahahah yeah I think it was CF wasn't it
I feel that though
 
lol haha
my ssh password won't work -.-
 
6:49 PM
use keys :D
 
your sssshhhh password won't work?
maybe try to not whisper the password
 
yea
 
or better yet don't shush your computer
 
fucked up stuff
 
@ballBreaker lets give 1,000 joke points to bb for that one
 
6:50 PM
im the king of joke points
@grrigore maybe caps lock is on :D
 
nope as you can see haha
idk man
 
did you know if you hit shift while caps lock is on it will change it to lowercase?
is that a known thing
 
yeah that's like a grade 1 thing
 
damn, thought i was about to blow some minds
 
hahah you might!
I actually almost always remap my caps lock key to enter
 
6:54 PM
WhAt ArE YoU TaLKinG AbOUT CAps IS OfF
 
I left it alone on this computer, but I like having enter on both sides
makes things surprisingly quick and it's good for WASD controls
 
i think im trying to ssh into the wrong hole
 
lol
 
hmmm lmao
 
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