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o/
 
Tom
5:55 AM
hello
 
6:24 AM
Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood Morning Everyone!!!!!!! :D
 
7:06 AM
morning o/
 
heeeeel - finish to dig his tunnel into the chat room - LOOOOO - gasps for air - PEOPLE
 
Tom
people should be written with different letter cases
you fight for breath
 
Don't underestimate my capacity to shout
 
prove it
 
You heard that?
 
7:26 AM
lol
wait Im waiting for your sound
 
Shouldn't be long, unless you're on Mars
 
No, if your in France, I need to wait for 8 hours
aprox 10600km, and sound travels at 1235kmh
 
Hum... Never did the maths before, didn't imagine it'd take that long
 
10600km is ground distance.... if your sound can pass through the earth then it might faster
 
The speed would be different in a solid medium
Probably way higher
(Ok, for instance, it's 17x faster in steel than in air)
And now I will have to go to Physics.SE to dump the problem on their hands, thanks
 
7:40 AM
earth will just absorbed the sound waves
Ancient One might have ability to do that, she may teleport the sound wave to anywhere
 
8:01 AM
I said I knew how to be loud, not how to tore the reality apart
 
Nice, a topic worthy of r15, you nerds :D
Good morning
 
8:23 AM
Morning Medhi
 
nerds
 
Nerd
 
Hello everyone! I am testing for push notifications. I am getting notifications on Oreo and lower versions. However, I am not getting one in Android Pie. Can anybody help?
 
how is everyone doing?
 
Hello
 
8:37 AM
\o
 
8:49 AM
Greetings!
 
Hii
My AS is on fire.. not working properly at all :(
 
another day to overcome
 
XD
 
HDD15x HDD SATA 6,0 TB Enterprise
8x RAM 16384 MB DDR3 ECC reg.
 
Tom
is kiosk mode problematic on android?
 
8:57 AM
It begins.
 
Tom
and is android-x86 an option to consider?
 
@Tom imho, kiosk mode and AR/VR are the future of android
 
kiosk is very situational, why would it be the future?
 
Online since 23-10-2019 09:02 (UTC). Running on develop@355b70d. Uptime: 0h
 
because "offline" digital signage is already progressing exponentially replacing traditional offline advertisement and services
 
9:02 AM
whats kiosk?
 
and the Kiosk mode would be the only way for users to interact with such stations in a variety of cases (for ads purposes or for actual services such as tickets appliances that are standalone today, information requests etc...)
 
Can confirm, just converted a car TV to a Raspberry Pi kiosk yesterday
At a glance information is valuable
 
Tom
ty
 
that's just my opinion, better do your research
 
No, just take what we say as gospel
Critical thinking is for the weak
7
 
9:12 AM
Lies?
 
Yesterday I found out that a mac book does not support miracast to the TV
 
Many TVs support Airplay
If all else fails, a chromecast will work
 
9:48 AM
The UI of my AS is fucked
 
Sounds normal
Vim doesn't have such issues btw
 
I know right
Does data binding work on androidx?
 
not sure why not
 
This was the most starred message last year on this day:
Oct 23 '18 at 13:03, by CptEric
a shitty newspaper
 
10:08 AM
It works
 
10:34 AM
@RaghavSood remember when you told me to use Vim to do some Java?? I'm not dead, but i'm still trying to exit it
 
Pfft, you don't need to exit it - vim has a way to do everything you need to on a computer
If you really want to go all in, run vim inside emacs
Then you're really at an OS level of functionality
 
Can I draw with my intuos in vim?
 
Surprisingly, no
Looks like you need to learn some Vim plugin dev
Normally, I'd tell you to abandon the tablet altogether and embrace the cli gods, but I recently got a remarkable tablet that is surprisingly useful and more efficient for certain workflows
 
if (inputText.isNotEmpty() && inputText.length <= 2) {
    this.error = "Username is too short!"
    button.isClickable = false
} else {
    this.error = null
    button.isClickable = true
}
I have this in my binding adapter but it doesn't get on the true of the if when inputText is "a"... WHY? :((
 
looks like a char array to me
 
10:49 AM
inputText?
 
yes, it's not a string, "length" in java is only for arrays
 
It's kotlin
 
oh
 
I tried everything but it doesn't seem to call the adapter when I change the text
 
o/
 
11:04 AM
\o
 
Hiya Netpork!!!!!! :D
 
11:20 AM
We spend too much on managed services: cloud.google.com/customers/coinhako
@MehdiB. @IvanMilisavljevic Do I qualify for Huge Scale now :D
 
hahaha yes :D
> Cuts deployment time of new services by 50%
this is awesome product wise, but not so fun, development wise :D
 
It's actually worth it for the web/trading teams who need to iterate faster and have near 0 user facing downtime
For my side of things, not so much of an issue
 
> Speeding up account verification with AI
raghav, they put you on account verification?
 
hahaha
 
Better, I cloned the parts that do all the work and we use them as a service now
 
11:29 AM
> — "Not Raghav Sood", Software Engineer (DevOps), Coinhako
Why do you go with a nickname in your testimony?
 
Because I'm not the devops engineer :P
That's a real person, he manages the overall infra
I only do the blockchain related stuff
Which accounts for the majority of our spend, so...
 
fine, then it's fair
 
11:54 AM
class LoginModel(private val apiInterface: ApiInterface)
should be ok with

@Provides
fun provideLoginModel(apiInterface: ApiInterface): ILoginModel {
return LoginModel(apiInterface)
}
It's ok to set apiInterface to private?
 
always make all fields private unless you have a reason not to
 
I got this error: ApiInterface cannot be provided without an @Provides-annotated method. I thought it might be related
 
no that just means dagger doesn't know how to create ApiInterface
 
aww shit
Yes, thank you
I think retrofit is not set
 
@MuratKaragöz this is awesome!
this was what I meant a few days ago by reinforcement learning, when an agent learns from its environment through trial and error
it's a very fancy discipline :D
 
12:06 PM
yea really interesting
is there a presentation about how that stuff is coded
 
imagine having time for all that
:/
 
What's the best book you've ever read?
 
The shortest
 
12:22 PM
Goood mornight folks!
 
o/
 
\o gitignore
 
I unfortunately don't have time either, especially for complex topics like that...
 
yeah
I wrote a sick rust program yesterday
 
@grrigore Like generally or to learn...
squint
Rust?
 
12:26 PM
@Nyakouai generally or to learn :D
 
what does it do, Tim?
 
Generally, there are a lot of great books, but I'd recommand the Name of the Wind par Patrick Rothfuss
 
it loops until you guess the correct random number, and gives hints towards the solution. It's very neat
 
To learn... I don't read books to learn, Internet has tutorials and videos, which I think is a better medium to demonstrate and explain
 
Schedules for android dev summit day1 and day2. Streams start later today
5 bucks to whoever can spot mark or adam
 
12:35 PM
Can someone have a look at some data binding related code? It's killing me and I cannot spot what I'm doing wrong
 
@TimCastelijns nice, so like "warm" , "warmer", "very cold" etc. ?
 
I want to validate my TextInputEditText if there is some input shorter than 2 chars
And it seems that the adapter is "not listening" to my changes
 
@MehdiB. no that is too easy. Just higher/lower
the only person we know that does databinding is not here today grrig
 
:(
 
12:54 PM
my OP7 updated today and now the navigation style I was using is gone
 
I really liked that 3 buttons on mobile phones
So I have a View match_parent, match_parent and a cardView above it. When I click the cardView it seems it clicks the View.. How comes that if cardView is above the view?..
is this because the cardview has no elevation?
 
@TimCastelijns are you flexing on us with $$$
 
bro I got the cheapest model
 
1:09 PM
haha
also, o/
 
Hiya cM!!!!!! :D
 
"My Iphone MVXII hasn't the navigation style I like anymore - Are you flexing on us? - Bro, I got the cheapest model" :P
Probably not the best argument you could use ;)
 
on which side
 
Hey, Womps!
 
How is it going??? :D
 
1:11 PM
Just that the cheapest of something isn't necesseraly cheap. I just thought the logical fallacy was amusing. Not saying you were flexing
 
Decent. Could be worse :) How are you?
 
Tim spendin' money like it's nothing
 
RO spy pay, probably
Do think to tell us if it's good, I'd like to change my old phone but don't know what to pick (Won't dev on it anyway)
 
it's better than I hoped for
battery lasts for 3 days
 
Now, that's a selling point
 
1:16 PM
yeah so how many would you like to order?
 
Well, given the state of my funds
A dozen
Minus 12
 
@codeMagic I'm oooookey :D
 
Apparently I can not use Array#includes to check if an object exists in a javascript array
 
ok great, they are delivered!
 
lovely
 
1:18 PM
D:
 
@TimCastelijns same for me with the OP 6t, that's now my only criterion to buy a new phone :D
 
Good to hear, Womp! :)
 
OakDev requested access. Rep: 163 - Questions: 3 - Answers: 16 (ratio 4:21.3)
 
oh boy
 
!accept
 
1:21 PM
So AS won't create new activities
 
@OakDev welcome. Please start by reading the rules and confirm you have read them before saying anything else.
 
I'm on version 3.5.1
 
user11867329
I read the rules.
 
try reading again, OakDev
 
user11867329
I have read and understood the rules
 
1:23 PM
yay
 
slow clap
 
WELCOME OakDev!!!!!!! 🎊🎊🎊🎊🎉🎉🎉🎉
 
user11867329
"Hey that's mine!"
 
bingo
 
user11867329
Can I refer you to an android security post on security exchange about Android?
 
user11867329
1:24 PM
Both for bragging rights and the actual good information I will probably discuss here or make reference to.
 
user11867329
Feel free to decline.
 
lots of fine words
 
you can post anything safe for work and tech related
 
you can add a link here to something you wrote, if that's what you're asking
 
@MehdiB. or cat related
 
1:26 PM
mehdi hates cats
 
I was carefully crafting my response exactly for that
I like 1 cat, not 10000000 cats :D
 
user11867329
@TimCastelijns

>>Communicate in English to the best of your ability. We don’t expect everyone to master the language but we do not want to see chat-speak (e.g. “u r vry gud i m new dev lol”).

Please don't bust chops at a guy for following the same rules you are so fond of.
 
user11867329
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A: Can a stolen Android phone with USB debugging enabled have screen lock bypassed?

OakSecurityA sophisticated threat actor could potentially exploit the Android Debug Bridge's key file permissions by switching your phone's motherboard to another same model phone and some tinkering. From then on, provided he knew how to get there, even an encrypted device might be under threat of full de...

 
Oak chill man :P
u r vry formal
 
We are not a serious bunch @OakDev, we joke a lot - when not talking about technology :)
 
user11867329
1:32 PM
I'm just saying.
 
user11867329
Been waiting freaking 24 hours
 
I joke a lot and nobody ever laughs
8
 
"lots of fine words" is a reference
 
user11867329
to gain access because I didn't say the exact magic words
 
user11867329
@TimCastelijns Awww, that makes more sense.
 
1:33 PM
👍
 
@OakDev you could also rephrase that to: because I didn't read the rules :D
anyway, we're glad to have you here 👌
 
I was so excited when I was accepted that I actually read the rules :D
 
user11867329
@MehdiB. I read the rules the first time I was told did you read the rules and proceeded to say yes.
 
user11867329
lol
 
user11867329
Am so exited about the best answer on post I sent you
 
user11867329
1:35 PM
I went to security, cause I had a lot of security questions and stuff. But the admin Shroedder
 
@grrigore You mean nobody laugh at your jokes.
 
user11867329
Completely power tripped on my question
 
user11867329
and then proceeded to review my old question as well
 
@Nyakouai yes
 
user11867329
Told him "never seen a power trip like that and Ive been to jail"
 
user11867329
1:36 PM
so I went on the first android post and dropped the gemzzzz
 
I reviewed the case. He was right
 
which case? grri's?
 
the case of schroeder closing oak's question
 
I may have bricked a server sitting in some datacenter in Germany
@MehdiB. Wanna go for a drive
 
@MehdiB. what? what?
 
1:46 PM
@RaghavSood XD why not DO or AWS?
@grrigore it was a joke referring to this chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/47658398#47658398
 
They won't give me 128 GB of RAM and 75 TB of HDDs for <200 eur a month
 
nailed it Mehdi :P /s haha
 
wow stingy
 
user11867329
@TimCastelijns The first one, you're right. He was.
 
user11867329
Second one, let's argue about it.
 
user11867329
1:57 PM
The Tails/Remmina one, I'll argue about the utility of that question on Security Stack to my death.
 
user11867329
So it went > Deception >> shock
 
I'm finding it hard to follow what the tails question is about, although I don't know anything about the subject
oh, the mod's edit kinda made it more difficult by deleting the tl;dr
 
your comment about him power tripping is so childish, I don't care what else you have to say on the subject
 
@MehdiB. LOLOLOLOL
 
what are we drama'ing about now
 
2:09 PM
also o/
 
Hey ball !
And Mauker
 
heyo
 
hallo
 
I showed up late to my own meeting today so that was cool
Thought it was at ten, but it was at nine
who schedules meetings at nine
apparently me
 
hi
 
2:10 PM
HR, often
From personnal experience, HR tend to think their time is very valuable, but yours is not. But maybe I just had a long streak of bad luck :P
Was that an important meeting?
 
Hiya Mauker, bB!!!!!!!! :D
 
I mean
Not really
I'm over it lol
 
yo
 
@W0MP3R heya womps o/
 
timmy and other folks
@TimCastelijns lol
@TimCastelijns nice
too much drama already
i hope murat had a good time
@grrigore looks like people laughed at this
 
2:16 PM
Yay <3
 
The first people to star it were also the first to tease griigore about that ;)
 
a star is a star
I'm like 6 star funny
 
That's enough to call the army with the tanks and the helicopters. That's a level of funny
 
gta vibes
 
Those ppl are living in 3019 when we're in 2019
 
2:23 PM
Given the denizens of my office, I think I live rather closer to -500 000 BC
 
I giggled and cried at the same time
 
... Sorry?
 
lol
 
Don't have to be sorry lol. I felt sorry for you
It was funny, yet I felt sorry
 
It's okay, I like explaining in five different way the same thing about a dozen time a day
Keeps my brain active
 
2:27 PM
wow
 
All this mansplaining that Nya does on a daily basis
 
which 5 different ways?
 
Plus, I might be one of them. Still waiting for the woodplank in this gif to break
 
@Nyakouai It's just that what you said is sad, but funny at the same time
Like, makes us feel like laughing, but deep down we know we're supposed to feel sorry
 
@ColdFire Usually, one of the way to get the point across is to doodle
 
2:28 PM
I'll stop now
 
maukerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
 
CFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
 
Aha, I get it Mauker :P I was joking further
 
mauker.separateGoodAndBad()
 
Is it immoral to stare at a coworkers ass when she isn't looking
or is the right thing to do to make sure she is looking
 
2:29 PM
@Nyakouai So, you know that I was truly amused by what you said, but dreaded by its true meaning?
lol bb
 
That's usually the kind of humor I go for
Workplace ethics 101 is down the corridor, bb. Or I think, can't remember if I attended it or not
 
How can I use BaseResponse without T? I have a class BaseResponse<T> in Kotlin?
Should I make this a data class?
 
> Our Sycamore processor takes about 200 seconds to sample one instance of a quantum circuit a million times—our benchmarks currently indicate that the equivalent task for a state-of-the-art classical supercomputer would take approximately 10,000 years
this is a neat read
 
@grrigore sorry I was trying to be funny :D
 
Me too
 
2:33 PM
@ballBreaker You know when Mauker said it was sad and funny? Kinda get the same vibe from these articles. It'as amazing and a bit scary at the same time
 
why do you have BaseResponse<T> if you don't want to use T?
 
Google's quantum processor scares you?
I guess I can see why
 
@TimCastelijns I use it when I get data (T) from the response, some responses have a "" data
 
"" is also a value right
 
Yes, but I don't need it
In java I used Observable<BaseResponse>
 
2:35 PM
that's not good, raw types are allowed in java but discouraged
kotlin doesn't allow it I think
 
So I should make a "BlankResponseEntity"?
 
@ballBreaker I graduated 2 years ago. Soon, we will be the dinosaurs of programming, about to be hit by the q-meteor-bit
 
I mean I don't care about the data, the T in the response I get
 
@MehdiB. IBM eh
@Nyakouai Eh, I don't think personal quantum computers are viable for another 20 years
Also dinosaur programmers make more money than current ones
Way harder to find someone to code your deprecated system than your new one
 
2:37 PM
20 years is still well within our working years ;)
 
I think you should handle the case where T represents "" rather than changing the model
 
@ballBreaker to be fair, IBM is a leader in quantum computing, so they're worth listening to :D
 
eh
I'll take your word for it and continue to ignore IBM
 
@TimCastelijns Sorry if I don't get this. In the api interface I have to add Observable<BaseResponse<something here>>
 
2:38 PM
And that something should be an object
And I don't care about that object :D
 
can use <*> maybe
 
@ballBreaker DataCap, FileNet, CaseManager, MessageBroker, Portal, Forms, MQ! these names always scared me 😂😂😂
 
or Unit?
 
or <String> and just grrigore ignore it
 
@MehdiB. oh god, I use all of those daily
 
2:40 PM
Thank you I'll give a try
 
@ballBreaker i used all except the Forms and Portal one :D
 
Wait so this article you linked
Is basically "Google is good, but not as good as they say, and still better than us"
From what I can tell
The title and opening implies that they "rigged the test" but in reality they just didn't fully utilize the super computer that IBM created and would know how to use better than Google
But still, 10000 days vs 2.5 days is a big difference, if what IBM says is true
but 200 seconds >>>>> 2.5 days
So the whole thing is a little misleading in a sense
 
@TimCastelijns yes
you can use * tho
 
Is the databinding guy here? :D
 
@ballBreaker it's basically an academic war, so we probably won't know which one is valid until google responds or ibm publishes a benchmark
 
2:48 PM
NERD FIIIIIIIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
nerds fight
 
fight fight fight
form circle
 
@MehdiB. But yeah I mean a 1e4 speed-up is wildly impressive, but 1e8 even better of course so I guess We'll see
 
@grrigore no but let's try to summon him.. @MwBakker
 
So he's the guy
 
2:51 PM
MWB
 
only if 'guy' is applicable for his preferred pronoun, otherwise expect a ban
 
I can summon him from instagram probably
if you are desperate
 
oh shit I said 'him'
 
@TimCastelijns haha
 
you also said "his preffered pronoun"
lmao
 
2:53 PM
@ballBreaker only if he's not busy :
 
I sent him a message for ya
 
Thank you bb
There he is!! The databinding guy <3 Hi @MwBakker
 
o/
 
digging my own grave
 
im at the side of the road
my car died
 
2:57 PM
of :(
 
is it correct to use the possessive pronoun 'my' here, considering I don't own the piece of land my grave would be placed in yet? Or is that falsely assuming possession
 
but I can help till the mechanic arrives
 
it's your grave, even if the land it's not yours
 
@MwBakker I need some help with data binding (gist.github.com/grrigore/ec8c57de5b9a334b1995e868e249b1c4) the adapter is not being called when I change the text... Whenever you have time to have a look
 
im at my phone now so Ill look at it at home
 
2:59 PM
Sure, no problem
 
which hopefully wont be long
 
Good luck with your car
 
haha thank you
 

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