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01:57
@nebulae thank you ... your post of this kitteh has brought me fresh hope for humanity.
@RaghavSood wake up I know yer there...I think we are both wrong
@petey Huh. I didn't know libraries did that
heya... this is forgivegod (changed handle a little bit ago)
Heh I know. I read everything here, though exams don't let me post as much as before :P
ahh
that guy didnt post his xml so I'm not gonna bother adding the non constants link
aahh damnit i gotta do it
02:06
Heh
okies...i see I'm a bit over 10% of your karma...I'll take a break til you reach 34k
ni ni
Lol. I don't post much nowadays. Most of my rep comes in from older answers getting upvotes
I'm in that boat too
had a hot streak posting several answers a day for a while, racked up lots of answers and now they pay dividends
Yeah. I've got about 1.3k answers now. So I show up fairly often in Android related searches I guess.
now I'll answer maybe 1 a week if I happen to see one that I know that hasn't been answered
02:12
Pretty much the same here. I got bored of answering NPEs and NetworkOnMainThreadException, so I usually answer more unusual ones now
Though I occasionally answer the simpler ones too
man...I can not break 1000...
frustrating...
you can and will ;-)
I didn't come to SO for a good month
but I got to 700 in a month or so
but now...I am cursed...
If you go for the 100 consecutive days badge you'll prolly pass 1k before you get it
I'm averaging about 2.5k/month this year
If only my apps paid out that much...
02:16
jajaja crazy
man you know what happened....
I was on day 90 and I logged in from my cell..but for some reason it didn't get registered...
back to 0
I missed one day earlier this year
Otherwise I'd be at about 400 consecutive.
I got jacked pretty hard by christmas day when I was going for that badge
Instead I'm stuck with 259
wow
how do you guys do it 32k?21k?
431
02:18
13k
This day. This is the day that ruined me.
I've got so many devices that are connected to the internet, that it's practically impossible for me to not be online
@Ahmad Exactly that. My friends at school find it creepy that I'm never logged out of Facebook chat and that I can reply within a few minutes usually, regardless of where I am.
Plus, the new StackExchange Android app has Push notifications for inbox and chat!
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It's pretty easy for me to not be online.
Oh man that's so annoying! everybody thinks that of me as well
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02:21
So even if I appear to be online, I ain't there, or maybe I'll just ignore it and say I wasn't there
Yeah I do the same. There's maybe 5 people to whom I'll reply when I'm sorta busy. Everyone else can wait
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I learned at my first job that I have to make people believe I'm not always around my phone or email so that they won't ask me to work if I'm not at work.
People tend to write me messages on 2 am in the morning because facebook says I'm online
but I was sleeping damnit
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Because if I'm not at work, I'm not thinking about work, and I don't want to think about work >_>
I have a chrome extension that removes the seen at message
So I just ignore people if I feel like it
Sadly that doesn't work if I check messages from mobile.
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02:23
I don't open an email unless I consider the subject important because of read receipts
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Same for texts
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And so on
@RaghavSood what is that app?
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I also just let people go to voicemail so they can tell me why I should care
nil did you just change your avatar?
user457812
02:24
Yes.
whoa
I have different avatars for you on the screen at the same time
user457812
It will stare into your soul.
This is the Facebook Seen remover, for anyone who cares
awesome thanks Raghav!
Btw there is a new StackExchange Android app?
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02:26
That said, my avatar changed a day ago.
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Or two days.
Its in Beta testing
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So you have the world's worst cache.
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Q: Help us test the Alpha version of our Android App

Geoff DalgasWe are in the early stages of development of the official Stack Exchange Android App and we need your help with testing. To set a few expectations: there will be bugs, crashes, and missing features, all of which will be fixed in 6 to 8 weeks. We are initially targeting Android devices runnin...

Nice!
02:28
It took them a couple of weeks to send me the invite though :P
I think the fact that you typed 3 lines made it pull the larger avatar image
which apparently hasn't been updated yet or something
Nope I got a bigger version of the new one
ok, thats it. I quit. Software is too weird
02:44
Thanks
I will sign up for beta
I downloaded a 3rd party app thinking it was it
03:08
quitting didn't work out so good
 
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04:36
@nil, sorry to bother you
I wanted to ask you why you recommended me to use cloc to find out how long it took for the Google IO app to be done
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Because if the code base is huge, you can make a guess.
it is 294 files
22985 lines of code
user457812
You'd be surprised how easy it is to end up with 294 files just by doing a ton of "extract" runs in IntelliJ.
they used Android Studio, so that might be a factor
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e.g., YOU GET A CLASS, YOU GET A CLASS, YOU GET A CLASS, EVERYONE GETS A CLASS.
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04:44
what are extract runs?
sorry if it is a dumb question
user457812
Running through the code and extracting bits of it to new modules/files/classes/etc.
and why programmers do that?
re-use?
user457812
It's easier to work on small things.
user457812
Code re-use almost never happens in practice.
oh
thanks for the explanation
how long do you think it took them?
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04:49
Dunno.
I was just looking at IntelliJ's documentation on Extract Method
is that what you mean?
user457812
I mean extract in a more general sense.
I see
 
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06:48
@ShrimantBajiraoPeshawe-I You've got write access. I need you to read the rules, acknowledge that you've read and understand them, and make sure you follow them.
07:11
@ShrimantBajiraoPeshawe-I Bye bye
The write removal kinda took longer than expected...
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That's what I get for giving people a chance.
09:40
 
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10:41
Apparently <shape> resources are actually gradient drawables O_o
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I am exceptionally confused right now.
im not sure if i should fear your avatar or worship it
one crazy looking bird
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Everyone should worship the mighty Potoo.
Wtf is happening in oz
Has tony Abbot won or?
Ha. He is the new prime minister. Australia is screwed.
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11:15
GradientDrawable why color filter no work I hit you with stick
i read about him once
is he right wing
?
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Australia, like the US, likes to regularly screw itself.
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Just so when the next election comes 'round, they can get mad at someone
It is like mitt romney ruling America
crikey
11:24
I don't have a snapchat. But I'm curious to know if they come to know if a screenshot is taken via ddms
(As opposed to screenshot taken using some shortcut)
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Screw it, I'm done trying to make ColorFilter work with GradientDrawable for the night.
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I would think just setting a filter and invalidating would work but that's apparently not the case so I need to sleep and maybe it'll turn out I'm just dreaming.
12:50
I heard the internet will be super slow because of Tony.
We'll miss the Australians on this chat.
13:33
That guy gets elected, and then I find out that they've removed the ability to highlight text in Powerpoint 2010...WHEN WILL THE MADNESS END?!?!?!?!
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13:51
:(
Right wing control Australia now.
And my friends will probably lose all their research jobs
Because they're cutting funding to NICTA
Tony's plan is to force all scientists into America
Because that's how you make the economy better (somehow)!
We don't want your scientists, we are already busy ignoring the conclusions of our own scientists....
How many scientific conclusion do you think we can ignore in a day?
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Todays result was so bad I became a member of the Pirate Party
And I've already pitched a large project and they've assigned me as lead developer.
So yeah, going to fix this country myself!
:P
I read part of the page someone linked a while back with the pirate parties views on several topics
they all seem pretty reasonable to me
14:01
Yeah they're great, and they actually reference their claims
My Internet right now is dial up speed. The coalition work fast!
14:24
Tony should have been abborted
@ComFreek Welcome! Please read the room rules.
@Ahmad I already did in the meanwhile ;)
:)
I wanted to ask whether it is advisable to install the normal Java Eclipse in parallel of the Android Eclipse version. Is this just redundant?
There is no Android version of eclipse. (You can do Android development on every version of Eclipse, if you install the ADT plugin)
Do you mean Android Studio?
14:30
No, I meant ADT provided by Google.
There was a stand-alone installer, but I can't find the link at the moment.
It seems that they have dropped the Eclipse download with a pre-packaged ADT plugin.
They removed the link to the version with the ADT preinstalled version of Eclipse from the developer.android.com site
Yeah
Oh I was wrong then
They didn't remove it
@E.Odebugg Yeah.
But using a normal Eclipse installation with the plugin is enough?
yeah
It's the same
14:38
Ok, thanks :) I always had two folders with two Eclipse installations... Finally, I can remove one of it
yeah
also I wanted to ask
when you download Android Studio it comes with yet another copy of the sdk
there is not problem to use this copy with Eclipse right?
Nope
it was kind of hard to figure out how to do it on the mac
(I am new to mac)
I was fooled by trying to access folders inside a .app
didn't know it was as easy as adding the path afar the .app
Yeah that was confusing for me as well
Real men use notepad.exe
14:41
jajaja
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In a VM
I just removed that folder inside the app and set up AS to use my old sdk folder
that works too
I think real men use terminal
jajajja
14:43
@Ahmad Real programmers don't use Enter. They're only coding one-liners. ;)
haha
Ahmad didn't you find a little annoying trying to add libraries on AS at the beginning?
Totally!
But I'm used to it now
Switching from Eclipse to IntelliJ(and later to AS) was really hard
adding libraries is the only reason why I am still using Eclipsle
I saw there is an option that allows you to use the same keyboard shortcuts as in Eclipse
Yeah
14:52
I mean I still do not get most of gradle
Yeah I'm also not really comfortable with it yet
But I'm getting better
Quick question: should JAVA_HOME be set to the JRE or the JDK?
But it's worth the switch
I think I spent at least a couple hours last time I tried to add ABS to AS
I hate that dialog that says they will add support for adding libraries with a GUI
that the will do it LATER
I never had this JAVA_HOME problem. Fortunately everything works right out of the box on mac hehe :)
14:59
@Ahmad I'm trying to install Ant for building Eclipse from source code
Windows ftw :)
Oh haha nice :D
@E.Odebugg Hmm which dialog? Never seen that
Oh you mean when working with gradle?
I am trying to take a screenshot with mac
hahaha one sec
shift + cmd + 4
yeah
wow that is great
I realizing why people love mac so much
lol
15:06
haha
Only one key under Windows :P
this saves the file to the desktop
on mac
yes
on windows you need to paste to paint
@E.Odebugg Yeah...
15:07
don't get me wrong, I have been a Windows user all my life until 2 weeks ago
and I hated the concept of Mac
I do not agree with their business model
but when it comes to easiness of use...
I hated macs as well. Just because I thought they were meant to be for rich snobs
part of my reason as well
I switched 2 years ago. Had been using windows prior to that as well.
yeah
they way I put it is
Hmm I used Ubuntu few days ago. It seems quite nice except I can't navigate with the taskbar at the left side :D
15:09
if you are a new user, with no prev experience
and you are given the chance to pick
But honestly. I improved my workflow by at least 100%. I just rarely use a mouse. Only my keyboard now.
I think most people will use mac
mac is so easy to use, so simple...
it aint easy to use
I mean just for the average user
switching between multiple finder windows is pain without the keyboard shortcut
15:11
what I felt was
"man I want to switch back to the previous internet page, and I do not want to click on the back button every time...how do I....ohhhh(two finger motion came naturally)"
or cmd + <-
Backspace
in Safari
backspace didn't work
and shift + cmd + <- in chrome
15:13
in chrome you can also do the pane
but it is not as smooth as in Safari
and I think most average users will not learn key board commands until there is some familiarity first
I don't know, it just was my experience as a new mac user
I gave up using Ant... so annoying
Ahmed, what is the best way to learn gradle?
their website?
I watched the IO presentation
Googled a bit
I think there is a book coming out about gradle soon
Definitely going to buy it
check this out
you can get the first edition of that book for free
wow nice!
thanks
15:24
no problem
it doesn't mention android
 
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16:38
@Glitch We are so screwed.... howfuckedisaustralia.com
Adam, run for senate next election
Pirate Party needs someone in WA :P
Haha, I might not exist in 3 years ;)
depending on my job opportunities
16:56
So I get this in a comment to my answer, "Ho Fatto Venire DICI TU, ma ho Onu un'errore: Causato da: java.lang.NullPointerException QUESTO E Il Codice Che ho usato per invocare l'Attività Condivisa in ALTRI SharedPreferences values = getSharedPreferences(Banca.SharedPrefName, 0); float valore = values.getFloat("Importo", 0); saldobanca.setText("" + valore); –"
Ummm....unfortunately I only speak English and a little Spanish. Ha!
did you figure it out?
17:13
google translate?
I sure you figure this out by now, but the language is Italian
bleh, code in comments =x
17:46
@ahmad is this really the way to add a library to Android Studio (answer with 109 up votes) ?
64
Q: How do I add a library project to the Android Studio?

AlexHow do I add a library project (such as Sherlock ABS) to the Android Studio? (not to the old ADT Eclipse-based bundle, but to the new Android Studio)

They finally corrected it and translated into English
Yes, code in comments sucks
Yes, I could translate but I'm not going to take the time when I'm trying to help somone
@E.Odebugg thanks, I didn't figure it out because I didn't take the time. I actually started to learn some Italian awhile ago but I don't know how much I remember anymore
18:05
hey no problem
I speak Spanish, and some stuff is similar to Italian, but I still had to go to google translate, jaja
are you familiar with gradle and Android Studio?
I did notice that Spanish and Italian are similar when I was studying Italian
I am not. I have installed AS but haven't used it much yet
yeah they are close
but I think that Spanish and Portuguese are the closest
man I need to learn gradle because I want to move completely to AS
I do not think they will maintain the ADT when the time comes....
for Eclipse I mean
18:21
IMHO, you should probably get familiar but I wouldn't suggest straying too much from Eclipse just yet
yeah...
you are right
but then the learning curve will be hard...
19:04
I am really annoyed by Android Studio and gradle
what is this!!! Gradle: A problem occurred evaluating project ':libraries:facebook'.
> Gradle version 1.6 is required. Current version is 1.7
sick of it
and this to top it off
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Q: Where i can watch in here Brazil vs Australia live streaming

user2757628Watch Brazil vs Australia Live Streaming Link Brazil vs. Australia Mane Garrincha stadium, Brasilia. Brazil take on Australia on Saturday afternoon at the Mane Garrincha stadium in Brasilia, as preparations continue apace for the World Cup next summer. The fixture represents Luiz Felipe Scolari...

I tried android studio for about 12 minutes then was like AGH
went back to eclipse and the android studio install had broken the eclipse install somehow.
some weird path problem. had to reinstall eclipse. so yah, not too excited to try android studio again.
I think something like that happened to me
and it was because when you install AS and then open eclipse
the SDK manager uses AS sdk by default
I had to re install eclipse as well
I am going to put off AS for a while I think...
at least until the officially release a stable version...
19:26
I concur.
20:06
I think waiting on AS as a production editor for now is a good idea commonsware.com/blog/2013/05/16/…
Agreed
20:47
@E.Odebugg Sorry was gone
Yeah that's the way to do it
:)
If you want to make use of the gradle build system it is
Otherwise you can leave out everything around editing the build files
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