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dreams of electric sheep
I'm very unsure of what "WARNING: Don't forget to set JAVA variable referred to node-java." means here ( npmjs.com/package/boilerpipe ). I'm using Windows7. Does someone using Java know? (this is a NodeJS wrapper of the boilerpipe Java code)
@Emilio Welcome to the Java Chat, the room for Java enthusiasts! Please use a code snippet tool when posting code snippets. If you have an Android question, you're in the wrong place! And remember: this is not tech support! Thanks for visiting and have fun! :D
01:05
morn
night :D
it's dark here, but still morning
it's dark here, but still evening :D
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01:48
coughs
 
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04:59
So... for my next semester of college (which starts in about two days) I am enrolled in 5 courses; one person teaches 3 of the courses, and somebody else teaches the other 2 courses online.
@JennaSloan what courses?
05:26
sneezes
Zoe
Zoe
05:53
Morning
Morning
\o morn
howdy y'all
06:09
Morning
Good Morning all
I am Android Developer . I want to develop webservices in java. Could anyone help me regarding that. Thank you
Zoe
Zoe
@MdMaidulIslam google it
@MdMaidulIslam go through some tutorials about it..what else can we say?
Oracle has a good tutorial, you can start by using that.
Give me best tutorials sites. I am confuse . I checked so many sites. I can make sign Up api. But I am not satisfied. and Expart developer know exact tutorials site @SurajRao.
06:21
If you're using Android Studio you only need to make sure you have a JDK installed and you're good to go following a tutorial
There are no expert level tutorials
If you're lucky you'll find some pay-for material that's intermediate
@eFox think he asking for java web services tutorials.. Yeah and he will have to go through docs
Zoe
Zoe
@eFox android studio is horrible for desktop projects
@Zoe But for getting started it's fine
Though it seems that he's not at starting level but rather has some experience following some kind of tutorial
@Zoe which IDE do you recommend? eclipse , netbeans or intellij?
@eFox could you please send me the exact link ?
@SurajRao please share exact tutorials site. you can judge that which sites is best. so please share
06:27
@MdMaidulIslam What exactly do you want to learn?
@SurajRao @eFox we need to develop eCommerce type of project on Android and Iphone. so we decide we will develop on java. I know java. I know eclipse very well. know netbeans bits. Editors is not a issue I hope. I need get and post both. and I want to try to retreive data from database and give result as an customize array not direct datbase data.
and I also receive json data and update database
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Q: Spring framework - How does auto wiring work?

overexchangeIn the below code, package com.ca.spring; import org.springframework.context.ApplicationEventPublisher; import org.springframework.context.ApplicationEventPublisherAware; public class MyEventPublisher implements ApplicationEventPublisherAware{ private ApplicationEventPublisher application...

I do recommend that you read the entire JavaEE tutorial
Not sure, if he understands we services at first hand. Why to use them? What problems with previous to web services?
@eFox I search by so many keyword but not find these . Thank you very much .
JavaEE spec is going to explain the mechanics and nothing more than that
maybe docs.oracle.com/javaee/7/tutorial/partwebsvcs.htm#BNAYK the other link I added was of Java 6
My repo on github has good info about, why to use web service
You can take a look
@SurajRao @eFox @overexchange I worked with restfull webservices . It is the latest tools. I hope . So please tell me what can I do ?
@overexchange Could you please share?
follow link shared by suraj
in that case
axis2 is better than jax
so it is up to u
Why axis2 but not jax
Google it
06:47
Okey could you please share the link.
we can Try every possible methods?I want to try from the basics ?
Zoe
Zoe
@SurajRao I'm a huge fan of all the Jetbrains IDEs, so IntelliJ
@eFox you can't get started. There's only Android projects that can be created in it
Correction: you can't create Java modules without creating an empty project and creating a module manually
It's still easier using a Java IDE (meaning not Android Studio)
@SurajRao @overexchange @eFox I see all of your links. I found @SurajRao link that How can we create restfull webservices . I found @eFox that Filtering Requests and Responses. and I am very confuse when I see Axis2 and JAX. Please share me how can I make restfull webservices example sample tutorials that contain put and get request. Like signUp and signin API. Please
@Zoe editor we can decide later first choose the technology ,framework ? which java framework easy to develop restfull webservices
?
Zoe
Zoe
07:05
@MdMaidulIslam No clue. I don't do Java and web
07:17
Ignoring his comment literally
@SurajRao Nice learning of the day
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Q: IOC container & accessing Implementation from the container

user1787812Background As mentioned in this article, Inversion of Control can be achieved through various mechanisms such as: Strategy design pattern, Service Locator pattern(SLP), Factory pattern, and Dependency Injection (DI). Am missing clarity in above statement, because below is my understading. ...

07:43
@SurajRao @eFox @overexchange please let me know. I am waiting for your positive reply and guide me proper way . Thanks
@MdMaidulIslam there are many different ways to do it even in Java.. depends on you and scope of your project... Thats something only you can decide
@Zoe thank
@SurajRao I need restfull webservice .
I will use token service, micro services, job scheduler letc
@Tavo Howdy Tavo ^^
And hello all other people ^^
Zoe
Zoe
Hiya @geis
07:55
@MdMaidulIslam Please stop mass-pinging people. Usually if someone can help, they will do so. If there are many people talking, you can ping someone you are having a conversation with to make your messages more visible to them but don't ping 3 people at once asking a question :)
Okey thanks
08:10
Thank you geister
08:59
@geisterfurz007 yo!
moans
09:56
groans
sneezes
Zoe
Zoe
10:13
coughs
cheeses
Zoe
Zoe
10:31
@Wietlol Oh no!
@Zoe heh TIL
@Zoe try #3 or #4
Zoe
Zoe
@Wietlol try #1
oh noes
Zoe
Zoe
11:12
@Wietlol take a seat, please
This is an intervention
interview?
nah, im busy
Zoe
Zoe
11:27
I didn't write interview though 🤔
i dont read what you write
Zoe
Zoe
You clearly do
i do dont read what you write
11:58
I wont not use no double negatives
My head hurts
12:30
@wonderb0lt why no floats?
12:43
sniffles
Zoe
Zoe
@Wietlol why floats?
why double?
why does neither of you understand they are not funny?
Zoe
Zoe
@geisterfurz007 because neither has pun precision?
@geisterfurz007 you are the only one that thinks it is not funny
12:54
And the next thing I am closing...
this room is me, zoe and you
and occasionally other people that come along and remember they dont give a shit
ow, and @OakBot
@Wietlol Type /help to see all my commands.
@OakBot /help
i see room for improvement
mostly on Oak's side
Zoe
Zoe
@Wietlol not only though
i already said oakbot is also here
what more do you want?
13:09
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Q: Copy file into specific directory in java

FawkesBelow is the code for copy a file from one directory to another directory. For eg: if the filename is Red-Already over,Red-Already Over(slow),NEFFEX-Destiny,then it should create a directory name red and copy the file into it, For another artist it should NEFFEX folder and copy the file into it. ...

@Fawkes cool story bro
@wi
Zoe
Zoe
@Fawkes thanks, needed something to close
@Wietlol whats the story??
your story
13:13
i mean what is the error in the story
there is no error
its just a cool story
it would be a question if you asked something
but you havent, you just told us a nice story
let me tell you a story
once upon a time, a thread got closed
now how is that for a story?
because that is the story of people who dont know how to ask a question
okay understood....
you first have to know what you really want to ask
then, you simulate your problem on a smaller scale (smallest as possible)
that link can help you how to get such an example
then, you can throw it to SO users and they will understand what your situation is, what you want and where you are struggling
seems to be the best way to get answers
Zoe
Zoe
@Wietlol the only way*
@Zoe dont lie to me, dont you dare to lie to me
you can always ask @Wietlol, but you must be prepared for some real shit
also, documentation sometimes helps too
but people usually dont like to read
Zoe
Zoe
13:25
Allow me to rephrase:
When asking a question on Stack overflow, or to anyone, anything or anywhere, the only way to get answers (with few exceptions where not applicable) an MCVE has to be included
o/ javanites
Zoe
Zoe
Example: If my unit tests fail because of an exception and I asked you (@Wietlol) to help me explain why (and that's all the info you get) would you be able to give a good answer that could help solve it?
13:27
@Zoe you bet i answer
will it be helpful? probably not, but i will answer
Zoe
Zoe
and get it right?
there is no "right" answer
Zoe
Zoe
edited the original message, check that one instead
you bet i give a good answer
and it could potentially help you solve it
indirectly ofcourse
In software engineering, rubber duck debugging or rubber ducking is a method of debugging code. The name is a reference to a story in the book The Pragmatic Programmer in which a programmer would carry around a rubber duck and debug their code by forcing themselves to explain it, line-by-line, to the duck. Many other terms exist for this technique, often involving different inanimate objects. Many programmers have had the experience of explaining a programming problem to someone else, possibly even to someone who knows nothing about programming, and then hitting upon the solution in the process...
Zoe
Zoe
you're missing the point
13:29
@Wietlol hey!
nah, im just an asshole
hey someone-who-doesnt-give-a-shit!
way too few of people like that
I'm literally staring at a red bar under an import of a class which is verified to be included in my project in eclipse
whyyyyyyy ;_;
nope
Zoe
Zoe
actually, that doesn't matter
still a mess, but not my case
Zoe
Zoe
Invalidate caches?
13:40
I tried a good ol' fashioned clean to no avail
But I verified the existence of the class from eclipse so I know it's there. sigh
let me try restarting eclipse
you guys get to use java 8 at work?
we use java9
try using NetBeans or IntelliJ
Zoe
Zoe
"get to"?
Just use the one that's fairly new, but not straight out of development
I'd consider myself lucky to use java 8
That said, I'm not lucky
We use java 7
maybe next year or 10
Not really up to me :)
I know the feel. The joys of legacy development
oh you can't imagine the half of it
When I got this job, felt like I walked into a Dilbert strip
13:54
Hi All
Hi @Sayros
@Sayros o/
That profile picture *-*
@Neil because eclipse :>
@Neil Yeah I started with Java 8 ^^
Hey Michael! Nice new profile pic :D
@Zoe we use java8 for aws stuff as it doesnt support java9 yet
which i can understand
Zoe
Zoe
@geisterfurz007 I started with Java 7 :> Back in the good ol' days before stuff got complicated :P
14:05
anyone still use java 7 or earlier here?
@Zoe jaba isnt complicated
I'm feeling left out :(
Zoe
Zoe
@Wietlol pun based on the increasing difficulty in which I have developed programs. I used Java 7 back a couple of months before 8 was released (IIRC) so what I developed in Java 7 was considerably less complicated than the stuff I write now (which happens to be in java 8)
@Neil java uses a strict policy of 3 up-to-date releases
what's there to understand? jabba is just an alien mobster criminal
14:05
1.9, 1.8, 1.7 is up-to-date
everything below that is deprecated
1.9 is hipster
1.8 is stable
only reason we upgraded to 1.7 is because the latest version of weblogic required it, go figure
1.7 is soon-gonna-be-a-messed-up-project-cause-next-year-it-is-deprecated
pretty sure otherwise they'd be happy with java 1.4
also, Jaba isnt as unstable to upgrade as stuff like php
in Jaba, you can easily upgrade to newer versions and have very little stuff to fix
Zoe
Zoe
14:07
yeah
with the exception of a few deprecations
I honestly wouldn't mind groovy. it's even backwards compatible and lets you precompile for optimization
that does limit its functionality though
@geisterfurz007 Thanks! :D
i still dont understand why people dont make the compiler be able to upgrade/downgrade projects
it knows the new version, it knows the old version
let it compile the older version with full source code data, then decompile using the newer version
Zoe
Zoe
@Neil There's also Kotlin and Scala
@Neil groovy is fine, its easy to use when you are used to java, but it has a few hipster features which are quite annoying
14:12
Not too familiar with Kotlin
I'd like to learn more about Scala
groovy is.. weird to some extent
you attach context to code being executed
I think that could really be misused
what was the first programming language you learned?
jass
@Wietlol let me guess, you learned Jass for starcraft I?
WC3
i never liked SC
No? I played both SC religiously
WC3 too later, but less
I learned QBASIC as an intro to programming (no, I'm not that old.. the computers were a little outdated)
never heard of QBasic
14:26
@Neil yuk
don't bother googling it.. not worth it :)
let you draw pixels in black, white, cyan, magenta, and beep at different tones
@geisterfurz007 finally settled into my new job...
Hi folks BTW
Nice! Congrats :)
I played yankee doodle dandy to annoy the teacher (he didn't know which pc was doing it)
First one I learned was mSL before the first school programming course and PASCAL after
14:29
Learned how to program my calculator after that TI-BASIC I think it's called
/afk Gone to grocery store. Hi angry wonderb0lt :)
@geisterfurz007 Cya later
@Neil it does more than my language
it allows you to return an exit code, read out arguments, print strings (literals and from arguments) and do integer calculations
maybe not such a terrible starting language for messing around in retrospect
Zoe
Zoe
14:45
@Neil once you get used to it, you'll find it's incredibly helpful. the null safety and the ability to set default values for input (and call arguments in any order for that matter) is incredibly helpful
@Neil you mean mine?
@Zoe I'll look into it then
@Wietlol Well mine :) just because it let me design programmatically which is something which really appealed to me in high school
Surprising that there isn't a kotlin chat room yet.
@Neil QBasic?
@Unihedron there was
Heya @Uni!
14:56
hey jerry!
#oldmemeisold
Zoe
Zoe
lol
it's not an old meme
@Wietlol Sounds like there is a story behind it..
14:58
@Michael you are just old
"oldmeme".equals("oldmeme")
"oldmeme".equals("old")
Zoe
Zoe
@Neil In Kotlin, == is used to compare Strings. It calls the equals method automatically
@Zoe how do you do reference equality?
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