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8:55 PM
sup guys, i was wondering if someone could answer a question about SO culture?
 
You'll probably get a few answers, some useful. You'll have to decide which ones to upvote or accept. ;)
 
Try asking it?
 
Thanks Adrian, that's a good idea. I was wondering is it about this site that draws such miserable boomers to it? Having used this site as a resource for years, I was disappointed to find that so many people here are, forgive me, completely miserable.
Take @TylerH for example. I just got in my first rollback war with this dude, he spammed my one and only post in Meta that's nearly a month old.
 
@Christian Misery is a relative concept.
 
He seems to really hate Flutter, but the weird thing is that it looks like he's just paid to write CSS.
Anybody wanna fill me in on the deets?
 
8:58 PM
@Christian Best not to get personal, heh.
 
I'm just curious if I should be more aggressive when using the site, you know.
 
No! Don't be aggressive - even passively.
 
^^ upvotes Adrian's answer
 
Also, "Stack Overflow" is two words and "GitHub" has a capital H in it.
 
@RyanM I prefer my language as stated, thank you though.
Anyways, anybody wanna give me some CSS tips?
Every time I go to style a button, it's like, ahhh!
 
9:02 PM
@Christian we don't really discuss user moderation here. But surely being "aggressive" is not a good idea. Always ask and explain nicely, if anything bad happens or keeps happening raise a custom moderator flag or post about it on Meta.
 
Okay, thanks @MarcoBonelli. I appreciate it.
 
Sorry, that was a little snarky. What I mean to say is: Stack Overflow posts sometimes grow into more than the original poster had created them as, like yours did: it's a popular request! Correcting the formatting of proper names is just a way of making your post the best version of itself that it can be.
 
I think in 6 years bringing stuff to MSO happened to me only once, and it wasn't even me who posted on MSO, but the asker, to whom I answered. Pretty funny story.
 
Look, if it's a substantive change, I agree. If I misspell a word or something, fine. But if I elect to rollback an edit to just capitalization, I'm not sure it should become a rollback war. "iTs GitHub TM (R) (C) not Github" is really not constructive.
 
Can I ask why you did choose to roll it back, given that the edit changed them to the official spellings?
 
9:06 PM
Small or big changes, grammar is important. I just delete my posts when it happens. I can see that's not an option for you, but you will not win the war.
 
An edit that changes Github to GitHub is perfectly valid IMHO. You should not rollback edits just because they are minor.
 
I slapped a content lock on that for now. No need to have more rollbacks at present
 
Because I found it to be a non-constructive change. It added nothing. I liked my post how it was. There was a rollback button.
 
Once you press that "Submit" button, it is no longer your question, really. It's property of Stack Exchange Inc.
 
Yeah, I guess that's it. I am not the type of person who would see a pedantic change like that to genuinely make the post more helpful (or help anyone express their opinion on the topic easier). We all know that's the case. It's just "uwu, that's TECHNICALLY incorrect, edit".
Yeah, sure. I understand how licensing works.
 
9:09 PM
@Christian Responding with requests for clarification is not spamming.
 
But there is an option to deny edits because they conflict with author intent, no? That is not a valid to reject an edit?
Sounds like something a spammer would say.
 
If you want to have full ownership of content, Stack Exchange sites are not the ideal place for that
 
Was it truly your intent to mis-spell corporate names?
 
@Christian sure, one might get that feeling out of it, I totally get what you mean. An edit that changes words to have proper capitalization is not in conflict with the author's intent though.
 
@Christian Minor grammar correction is not about author's intent. It doesn't change the meaning of the post.
 
9:10 PM
It's not a big deal if you mistype proper/legal names, but it becomes one when you obstinately refuse to allow them to be corrected.
 
Unless.. the author specifically wanted to misspell the word... which would be strange.
 
It was absolutely my intent to not care about the proper spelling of GitHub, yes.
Or, important - the exact proper capitalization of Github.
 
So why do you care so much when someone implements the correct capitalization that you roll it back?
 
So if you do not care, why do you care about it being corrected?
 
Frankly, I just found the edit to be pointless, but it's clear I don't get to actually take that position, right?
I'm supposed to agree that yes, the capitalization must be perfect or whatever, otherwise well, you don't own the comment, we're gonna do whatever. This site is lame. I hope Microsoft sees this bro.
 
9:12 PM
@Christian As I tried to tell you: You cannot win. You can only not post any more.
 
Oh yeah I get that.
 
I had my own defeat on meta, and I stopped caring too much about what goes on there.
 
Absolutely understood. Just came here to read the room. Seems like a bad deal after all, and not even because of the whole invest-time-for-free thing, but more the power-users-are-awful thing. Worse even than Reddit perhaps.
@Scratte This was my first Meta post ever. Literally a month old. It did really well and people were excited about the idea of the feature. But this guy has a bone to pick with Flutter for some reason.
 
@Christian You get to have a position, of course. It's fine if you don't care about the quality of your posts' spelling or other grammar. It's not fine, however, if you rollback an edit that fixes problems with said spelling or grammar. By doing that, especially repeatedly, you're intentionally harming the site's contents, which is a no-no.
 
Tyler, you know that content is not materially better off after your edit. I get your position on it, but I'm telling you, you've probably just been on this website too long.
 
9:15 PM
@Christian It's not "this guy". Someone would have found it eventually and corrected it. There are even users running scripts to find those things.
 
3,000 people saw the post and did not, so I find that dubious. I probably would not have found it as cringe if it had been an organic edit, but it came after the post had been dead forever, followed by taunts about Google and so on and so forth.
 
@Christian You do realize that part of the edits was proper tagging, right? Your issue potentially gets lost without that
 
@Christian I don't care one way or the other about Flutter in particular. I saw the post, read it, and posted a comment requesting some clarification. At that point you posted a dismissively rude response, but I chalked it up to inexperience, and elaborated. At that point you doubled down on the rudeness, for some reason, so I disengaged. Now, you've come here to try and bash me, it seems. If you want to discuss Meta further, or a particular person's actions, you'll need to do it elsewhere.
 
Alright, later guys, later CSS pro deluxe.
Also yeah the tag issue was not a big deal, but tbh it felt like an apt tag to me since I was detailing how the design should look and explaining where the content would go with selector notation, but that was a lot less pedantic (though ultimately, that post *did* focus on how the layout would be presented to the user... i.e. design).

Leaving now though at Tyler's request, just wanted to respond to that real fast.
 
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