I have no idea what you're referring to, so I can't really say where it would be appropriate to talk about it. But if it happened in here, then this seems at least an acceptable place to start discussing it.
@ArdentCoder So, my point there was that they misunderstood (reasonably, based on the phrasing) the message you intended to convey. My advice to you is, rather than pursuing "justice," that you either have a polite conversation to clear up what the message you intended to convey, and reach an understanding, or, more simply, to write it off as a simple misunderstanding, and allow your future interactions to shape your relationship with this person.
I still don't know what we're talking about. I cannot find any messages in this chat room containing the phrase "pursuit of justice" other than the one immediately above.
@CodyGray I did, after the second kick. But I've already told you his nonsense response. All this time, his army has been speaking on behalf of him but he's in the hiding.
And coming in hot right after being kicked is not an appropriate time to ask for a meeting or further discussion. That's something you do after everyone has had some time to cool off.
@RyanM No, I found it. (Assuming you mean your conversation, where you waxed eloquently about the pursuit of justice.)
I cannot see it doing any good to relitigate what happened at one point in the past.
If there is a concern about how this room is moderated, then that's something that can be brought to the attention of other room owners and/or moderators, with all relevant evidence included/cited as part of the complaint.
@CodyGray Don't divert it. I am here after a lot of research on that RO - he is indeed kicky - just type kick/kicked in his search and you'll notice. Accusing me of my tone repeatedly without reasons is very insulting. I think you are not ready to check the convo cuz you want to save that RO from accepting his mistake.
@CodyGray That's not my point. Given my contributions to the site at that time, it was perfectly reasonably to assume I was not speaking in bad tone. When he repeatedly did so, I deliberately talked in ironic tone and ok, he kicked me. That should have been over right there. What did he want to prove with the 2nd kick?
@ArdentCoder This is why I am intentionally not looking up the history or trying to figure out the identity of this particular room owner that you're complaining about. Yet, you're accusing me of bias anyway. I'm only going to say this once: extraordinary accusations require extraordinary evidence. I'm happy to have conversations, I'm happy to have people tell me that I'm wrong (and preferably why), but I'm not going to have much patience for attacks on my integrity.
@ArdentCoder Maybe you insulted their integrity like you just did with me?
Uh, so you can accuse me of being biased? No thanks.
We literally already discussed this in great detail in the election chat room. Unless you have something new to bring up, I don't see any point in discussing this further.
@CodyGray No. It was just a coincidence that the user who had negative actions upon me outside the chatroom happened to be a RO here. I came here to help a small user reopen their post, and that RO interfered poorly - I still didn't react - just obeyed. Further interactions in this room with the RO were all dominating - and I've had enough there.
That's why I'm not complaining about the first kick cuz there were so many factors involved.
@ArdentCoder I'm still not sure what your complaint is. You say "dominating", but that's the job of room owners: to control and maintain order in their chat rooms. You complained about being "kicky", but, again, kicking is one of the primary (and few) tools available to ROs to maintain control of their chat rooms.
We already discussed the fact that ROs need to make judgments quickly with limited information, and sometimes those judgments are not perfect. We also discussed that this site doesn't hold grudges, and that it's best to just move on.
We've also already discussed why your message upon returning would have made a reasonable RO assume you did not take the first kick seriously, even if, and I cannot stress this enough, even if you did not mean it that way. Text is notoriously bad at conveying the amount of meaning that an in-person conversation does, especially if you unintentionally use a phrase with the wrong connotation.
@CodyGray All the privileges you've talked about can also be misused just like, I feel, he did against me. And why won't he apologise for his hasty judgement of the 2nd kick?
@ArdentCoder You keep assuming that a mistake was made. I have no reason to believe that it was. All I know is that you disagree with the room owner's choice. That's fine, but you're biased. Furthermore, I see no evidence that you've calmly, reasonably made your case to this person and asked for an apology.
@RyanM That is a great defense. But I can also say that he really wanted to 'dominate' by proving his quote: "don't try me too much". Why shouldn't I try(ask) him when he was rejecting my reopen requests, blaming me of tones, etc.?
@CodyGray Ha! And here I was just pleased that I managed to get my flag in on that obvious spam post in the SD report before you managed to delete it :-)
I've said this already, but I guess it bears repeating: part of a room owner's job is to "dominate" the room. If folks are appearing to not listen to what they say, and especially if they're appearing not to take a kick seriously, then it makes sense for them to get harsher in their replies, including things like, "don't try me" or "don't test me". I've said things like this myself. I just said something akin to it earlier.
@CodyGray "calmly", "reasonably", etc. : I said "May I know the reason for the second kick?" What is not calm and reasonable here? What is not calm and reasonable is the response I got there.
@ArdentCoder please - let's not keep going over this - it was almost 2 months ago now and nothing has happened since. However, what is happening now is by keep bringing it up you're being disruptive to the room despite being asked to just let it go/stop several times now - and since you're not - that's reason by itself for a kick. Please just stop.
@ArdentCoder Again, I feel like I'm repeating myself. Did you come immediately back from the kick and demand an explanation? That's not going to be interpreted as constructive behavior, regardless of how you meant it.
sure... but you were told that wasn't an option and continued anyway - you've been told what you can do - so either do that... but whether you do that or not - and we'll only ask one more time - stop going on about it.
@CodyGray Demanding explanations had already started a long way back then. When he once closed a meta post of mine single handedly - I demanded reasons - his response was something like "part1 because X. part2, I don't think it should be discussed". Then in this room, reopen request - "No reopen vote from me" (I didn't even ask his reopen vote), he still made that comment despite not being a subject-matter expert - the post was reopened by other sensible users, etc, etc, etc, TOO MUCH!
@ArdentCoder It seems like you have a problem with moderation. You need to be aware that this is a moderated site, both on the main Q&A site, on Meta, and also in chat. There is nothing wrong with someone closing a Meta post single-handedly. I do it all the time. It sounds like, when you asked for a response from the closer, you got one. I don't see the problem.
And when he was already annoyed by me, he wanted to 'dominate' (not as an RO, but due to all those reasons) and started to accuse me of tones, etc. until the point I intentionally used his imaginary tones against him.
You're upset that someone expressed their opinion by saying "I" and "me"? What else did you expect them to say? Give someone else's opinion?
@ArdentCoder Cool. So, it sounds like you lost your cool and thus proved this room owner correct in their initial judgment. Try not to do that next time.
@CodyGray When this is a community site, "I' and "me" is all that matters? If he doesn't think something should go his way then is that a reason to justify his action which impacts other community users? He should have provided reasonable responses, like why shouldn't it be dicussed etc.
@ArdentCoder Of course everyone is accountable for their actions. You haven't made any substantive criticisms of action taken. You're just complaining about tone and other subtleties.
All I hear is "I am mad that my post got closed", which doesn't really mean anything to me.
@CodyGray Why wouldn't I lose my temper? He kept provoking me, I'm still ok cuz he was doing moderation but I'm not okay cuz moderation doesn't mean simply closing and deleting posts without providing justification. I had already expressed my complaint on tone, which was again ignored.
@CodyGray No, that was just history to provide context on why he was behaving with me like that in this chatroom.
Someone telling you that they voted to close your question because they don't think the issue should be discussed is a valid reason, and I don't see any basis on which to complain about that. You can disagree with it; obviously, that's your right. But there's nothing wrong with casting a close vote on a Meta question on that basis.
@CodyGray I didn't tell him to undo his vote, I just asked why he did so and the reason circling back to because he has those privileges doesn't sound reasonable at all