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@ircmaxell good point.
@hakre what are you using for graphics editing? gimp/inkscape?
@dyelawn yes, but more gimp. inkscape is slow on my windows computer. it's better on my linux computer but it also needs a lot of ram. I also use libre office draw.
not familiar with libre office, does it produce vector images?
nvm, looked it up, am a dumbdumb
@dyelawn yes, it's for vector imaging, it also produces graphs from spreadsheets.
What's up?
20:02
it's not really an artistic drawing program but it's okay to illustrate a little.
the lacking usability of inkscape and consistent crashing of gimp was what made me invest in illustrator/photoshop/fireworks
@webarto balkan weeks at my lunch supplier this week ;)
@dyelawn well I also use illustrator and photoshop, but gimp and inkscape also have on pluses on their side compared to the others. So I don't judge anymore that way.
@hakre @dyelawn office: libreoffice; graphics: gimp vectors: inkskape cad: blender
You actually need to use software for some time to know what/how things are done.
BTW, I may be joining IETF... Talking with our director of standards here on Monday
20:05
@hakre just personal opinion, of course, but illustrator is much more intuitive than inkscape to me, and gimp was extremely unstable on my machine (granted, haven't used either in almost 2 years)
@hakre programming: netbeans, geany, jedit (what else?)
programming: vim; finally weaned myself of the dreamweaver.
@ircmaxell whoa, that's big. any specific groups you are looking into joining?
@hakre I had a burger yesterday, still not hungry :D LMK if you plan sometimes to visit this shithole part of the Europe :)
@dyelawn yes I love illustrator a lot, too. One day I might program a clone for linux. Just basic shapes and curves. Purity and precision.
20:07
Need to discuss with them... But I want to get my opinion into the HTTP 2.0 ring
@hakre good, clean vectors are indispensable for my primary work (brand identity design)
because I think that proposal will be the death of web applications
@ircmaxell We need the return of the hypertext again.
All this facebook and twitter crap is polluting the hyperspace a lot.
Nobody talks about the problem of electronic dumb.
@ircmaxell you haven't blogged about this, right? I'd be curious to hear details.
@crypticツ bookmarked. that's epic.
20:13
@hakre It's the only way to be sure =oP Birth certificate or it didn't happen!
@igorw I'm thinking about it
I have a few blog posts to write
@ircmaxell why didn't you make monads interfaces in your monad gist you did last week?
because I didn't need one right then
@ircmaxell fair enough. just curious if there was something i was missing.
@crypticツ you need to see: imdb.com/title/tt0182789
20:22
@kaᵠ I saw it when it came out, it made me cry =o(
nice one
why no wordpress representation in FIG?
@dyelawn HA!
@crypticツ I will create an institution that will offer birth certs for computers.
@hakre Verisign Birth Certs
20:31
00001001 Verybirthing Sign Certertz PLC
(better start with zeroes so it's at the beginning of the (printed) phone-book) ^^
Orphans will not be able to use the interwebs =o(
A birthcertificate is given when the ethernet umbilical cord is getting cutted and the W(L)AN connection has been established shortly after.
rofl
@hakre what about (home-made)/assembled computers?
now serious question: why doesn't orgmode babel support php?
@dyelawn because PHP syntax is akward. you don't wanna parse it.
20:36
@hakre @ircmaxell doesn't your phpphpphpphp thing parse php?
@hakre The horror of waking up from the Matrix and realizing you are possibly running on Windows
What is a long version of "made a mistake in my regex"?
most of the parser itself is generated by bison, right?
> I am trying to search for a subject for a match to the regular expression given in the pattern but it is not working correctly.
@igorw not this rec2... thingy?
20:39
@hakre yeah all my php builds keep yelling at me about re2c 0.13.4
pce
pce
re2c compiles regex to c code (fsm?) ?
ah, re2c is by helly
@pce sort of
I actually got a reply about XOR thingy (asked if there was a reason not to implement it) from re2c creator.
Really?
20:41
hi,how to build a smart crawler which indexes only data which we want
I'm sorry to say this @SaranshSharma but I think you're in the wrong place.
@SaranshSharma send it to a good school and instill it with a strong sense of discipline
@SaranshSharma make the crawler smart in the sense that you can model your understanding of wanting.
> not having XOR in php ini sounds like an oversight/bug. Surely nothing related to re2c. If re2c had been the reason, then would have just fixed the tool.
Seems like a cool guy.
marcus is trapped inside googleplex
20:43
well i would only index what we want
hi @PeeHaa埽
Evenog bithces
@igorw :D Seems like a good place to be trapped in :P
morning peehaa
@SaranshSharma Then you are the crawler. Now box yourself into a software package ;)
20:44
lol
@PeeHaa埽 Eggnog batch
@webarto sure, they have "free" pizza 24/7
heya @hakre! @ka! @webarto!
pce
pce
@SaranshSharma could you define what we want?
@webarto Kinda long time.... What are you up to? Still budy in your new home??
20:46
yeah we need to go the defined news sources like lets say newyork and we need to index those pages which is our interest of topic
sweet, my raspberry pi has arrived. now wtf do i do with it.
lets say we are talking about defence we need to index pages which talks about defence
@SaranshSharma you'd probably achieve your goal more quickly by just reading all of the pages and copying them all by hand.
@dyelawn hahahaha are you serious
@dyelawn cool, ordered one a few days ago as well
any ideas yet?
20:49
tv-like box of course
@igorw a lame one; just going to set up xbmc on it in my kids' room
@crypticツ hey hey Windows is pretty nice as a desktop. As long as you don't run windows crash 8
pce
pce
@SaranshSharma if you could filter markov chain based pages, then rank crawled pages, and tag it by Domain/Titles/Headlines, crawl, advertise and track a lot...
Hey Chris bitach!Q
I see you lurking there
That's my middle name
Evening
20:51
i had fancy ideas of running my personal crm (local domain; runs on node) on it, but don't think i could make it work
:-D evening jo
is there any open source
@dyelawn wait, a website that runs on node? is it possible?
@pce
is there any open souce
@PeeHaa埽 Yeah, dude, current status, I'm mostly AFK, need to supervise workers. What's up with you?
20:52
@SaranshSharma sure, there is. but we won't tell you where.
(hint 1: it's in the internet)
3
(hint 2: start your search on wikipedia)
@igorw i think so; it works right now running on a vm on a box i leave on all the time
(hint 3: it's a huge topic, we can not answer your questions in a way that would satisfy you - neither today nor within the weeks to come)
pce
pce
(hint 4) hire a php developer ;)
@webarto eeeeeh. The tiles look nice. I just can't amigaine taking a shower there in the morning ;) I'm also supervising workers only in my case workers are stupid colleagues and external shitheads
Buy more free software!
20:54
lulz
@webarto emm looks like digital-camo (hard to focus eyes on it)
@hakre I think you meant: download more porn
DOWNLOAD ALL THE PR0nS!
@hakre did it
And yes I am at this level again ;)
That Balmers peak kind of leveling?
20:55
@igorw is that not supposed to be possible?
@hakre Balmer peak and beyond :D
@kaᵠ Not only is it rep whoring like a pro I actually really like the text
@dyelawn that's why I haven't ordered one yet
@PeeHaa埽 thanks! just needed a few votes to get past 200 :)
done, and done. thanks
20:59
@dyelawn It's perfectly possible, it's just generally considered to be a bad idea I think. Unless you are really good at JS. It's just way too easy to write a horrible mess of unmaintainable code. Personally I'm undecided, but I think JS isn't particularly well suited to the dynamic content generation model - it would be quite good at static content though.
@kaᵠ np you deserve it
@DaveRandom all this crm does is maintain contacts, schedule phone calls/appointments, notify me of those appointments at the appropriate time, and allow me to take notes on those items.
so... who started writing the cv-pls addon? @PeeHaa埽 / @DaveRandom ?
@PeeHaa埽 It's a setup for jacuzzi :D You are a manager or something? :)
how can i see that (history?) in github?
21:02
@DaveRandom bitch like you is hard to find :D bitch = developer
and btw... wanted to get a clone of the chrome-cv-pls and it's missing bunch of stuff
@kaᵠ @PeeHaa埽 gets far more credit than me, I didn't contribute a character before v0.19.0
@DaveRandom see... how would one know that?
@webarto Actually the term for me is buatch. Important difference.
/beer>'; new beer();
21:05
The later the day, the better the questions: "Notice: Undefined offset: 1, 2, 3 & 4"
@DaveRandom Duly noted.
@kaᵠ how do I find you on facebook?
@DaveRandom wow, nice, thanks and.... looks like you're the main guy on it, even if peeha started it
@DaveRandom would you suggest using something other than js for something simple as described?
21:06
@hakre you don't ! why facebook?
@kaᵠ I thought you like it and wanna become my friend on facebook. that's why!
@dyelawn What it does isn't that relevant (the way I see it) - are you making any use of a multi-process or just running everything in the main thread?
@dyelawn pretty much what @DaveRandom said. CPS makes JS rather unsuited IMO.
@hakre facebook is crap (IMO).
myspace ftw
21:08
nope
yet another variation of godwin's law?
xanga rocks my socks off!
^^ had to Google that
I think @rdlowrey brought it up the other day. or was it someone else?
haha, old technology that got replaced by wordpress
21:10
I need moar friend requests. Please apply for friendship now if you feel friendly: facebook.com/hans.krentel
Holy crap, anything that got replaced by wordpress must be crap
@igorw slow down with all the acronyms, i'm just a novice :). @daverandom i treat each appointment as a separate process, for when i'm on a call not paying attention and on a gchat
@dyelawn Continuation-passing style, aka passing callbacks as an arg to every async operation.
21:14
@dyelawn Errr... I think you might have missed my point a little :-P I mean actually processes on the machine, as in child_process.fork() or the WebWorker API port thingy
(which I've never used, anyone played with it?)
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had a productive day of skiving today
was supposed to install 11 instances of our cms system on 11 different sites and train the customers on how to use it
@igorw rad vid
@wes I wouldn't pay $1. Maybe $0.75.
:-P
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21:20
lol
@DaveRandom well conceding the fact that i have no clue what i'm doing, i think i understood you properly. i run a child process that writes input to a YAML file. at the end of the day, that YAML file goes into my database
i instead switched apache from prefork to worker, switched php fcgi to php fpm and upgraded php from php 5.2 to php 5.4 on centos. all without breaking plesk. i then realised how shit plesk is, set up a virtual server, installed centos with bind9-mysql, mysql, apache+php-fpm for the front end, postfix and courier both linked to mysql, set up a database and all the tables required to drive all the demons, and then used lighttpd as a control panel server AND...
... because i was still bored, wrote a new light weight server control panel to manage all that in php from scratch
far more stable, far more usable than our plesk server. so im gonna buy some new servers, install my setup, and fuck plesk off completely
sounds like it's time for a release party!
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what about cpanel?
@dyelawn :-X no offence but... wut? Firstly why would you need a whole process to deal with just that (you should be able to make one process do the job of several there) and secondly why are you writing YAML to a database instead of just the data it represents?
21:22
LMAO is short for ... . — hakre 11 secs ago
dislike it for the same reason i dislike plesk, it places too many restrictions and takes too much control over your server. my own control panel lets me choose how i want my server set up
@DaveRandom bad phrasing; i don't put the YAML file in a database, i write the objects described by the YAML file to the database
@hakre Lithuanian Men Are Orange?
and i'm never offended; again, no clue what i'm doing, that's why i'm here lurking all the time
@dyelawn Ah ok, that makes more sense. Kinda. Hang on I'll be back in a few minutes, I'm interested in this so I would like to talk about it more.
21:24
allows me to use modern stuff such as php5.4, fpm and worker (or events if i decide to go apache 2.4). only reason i havnt gotten rid of apache all together for nginx or lighttpd is for compatability reasons. we have 6000 sites, of those 6000, around 3000 have a custom htaccess file for rewriting. there is no way im mapping all of those to nginx or lighttpd configs
^ so much crap (not only the question also the answers)
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@bizzehdee good to know
@DaveRandom What is it with this "Orange" all the time?
also, plesk and cpanel manage a seperate vhost file for each domain controlled by the system, so with 6000 sites, thats 6000 vhosts. and for each one added, plesk/cpanel restart apache, and that can take upwards of 10 minutes
@hakre Opaque then. That one is presumably true more often as well.
21:27
with my panel, single vhost to manage all domains, instant restart. although i did build in overrides to allow any domain i want to have a custom vhost
@DaveRandom what? I don't understand.
Well I'd imagine a higher percentage of Lithuanian men are opaque than are orange.
I hope so, anyway
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@bizzehdee how does it work? why don't you make it open source?
translucent people are usually not particularly healthy
@wes: because it would only be useful for a web agency like mine, for general web server management, it wouldnt work as well as other panels. ie. if you manage 5 or 6 sites, plesk or cpanel are good. if you manage 5 or 6 thousand sites per server, thats where i need my panel
21:30
As a person who had a Lithuanian roommate during college for a semester and as a floormate for a year, what is going on?
@DaveRandom ok. ping when you're back, always appreciate the edification
@Matt I was just proposing a definition for LMAO
@DaveRandom OH.....
I just randomly got a bunch of Careers invites if anyone needs/wants one
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ah... by the way... someone has experience about cpanel? how does bandwidth counting work? using apache logs? because one of our stupid hosts logs every single request twice, and we think that is the reason the bandwidth usage is very high
21:37
@DaveRandom i'm good; got one for my "jquery answers" a few months ago. most shameful day of my life.
so can i give you a quick breakdown of my use case and objectives and get some critique?
@wes Unlikely. WHM is more intelligent than that (assuming it's a full WHM setup - if it's just cPanel then it probably does just use the log analysis tools).
@dyelawn Can you share codez or is it proprietary? At the end of the day for something like this that would get you the best critique.
GitHub repo would be the best way to share codez, that way people could actually help you improve it as well
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@DaveRandom how can i see if it is whm? it is a shared host
@DaveRandom not proprietary, but not ready to be shared. it's a mess. i do plan on asking for code review when i've got 0.0.1 on github. but i might be wasting my time with 0.0.1 if i'm way off base.
@wes One sec, I'm not actually certain, it's such a long time since I did any shared host admin, I still have access to a couple though
proprietary stuff is in the goodies, like email and fax
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21:43
@DaveRandom ok thanks
@dyelawn That's kinda the wrong way to look at it. While you code is all over the place is the best time to have it on GitHub - it's when it most needs external contributions and it's when it's of least value to someone if you were to one day decide to make it proprietary.
@DaveRandom: what i dont get is.. WHM is brilliant, one of the best tools i have used, but, when you drop out of WHM and into cPanel... URGH!!!! its fucking terrible
@daverandom fair enough. I'll let you know when it's up and greatly appreciate any feedback.
@bizzehdee Yeh but you have to remember that cPanel is designed to be idiot proof and to be used by idiots, so it will be limited. WHM lets you really break stuff. And I mean really break stuff.
@DaveRandom: yep, i am aware of how badly you can break things. turned SBL's on in WHM once and set up the wrong SBL's in the list. accidentally blocked every single email coming through the server for 4 days, and didnt realise.
21:49
@wes I can't get in to any of the cPanel logins I have, someone has obviously been buggering about with the server in question (I've sent the person who it will be a strongly worded email). But there's a pretty simple way to test this anyway - put a 100MB file on the server, download it, and see if it costs your bandwidth 100MB or 200MB.
If it is because of double message logging, the bandwidth used will be exactly double. That should be pretty easy to test.
@bizzehdee I've done stuff like that on phone systems. The thing about breaking phone systems is that no-one apart from the boss wants you to fix it because everyone is enjoying the silence
@DaveRandom: was asked a few months ago "can you block us from dialing out certain numbers on the phone system"... thought i could. so i went to our "number block list" on the phone system's admin panel... added in that number.. was fine, couldnt dial that number
@bizzehdee What system is it?
went for my dinner... came back to 30 panicing sales staff who couldnt dial any number that contained the numbers 0 or 1 or 9 or 4 or 2.... turns out there were quite a few options i missed, and the default option is a wild card option
some alcatel bullshit propitiatory thing. its shit. want to ditch it
lol yep, was gonna say, screwing with dial plans is a bad idea unless you know what you are doing
Outbound dialing is a lot more complicated than you'd think until you try and configure it
we just get a lot of requests to "no longer call this number", so we thought we would make sure we cant by just blacklisting the number.. turns out only asterix has that functionality (as far as i know)
i wanna go for asterix when we upgrade
21:55
Proprietary is not necessarily bad. The open source pabx scene leaves me seriously unimpressed
@bizzehdee You'll regret that
I'm not going to do my asterisk rant again, if you want to read my opinions on the subject use the chat search :-P
really? it bad? only really heard "its better than the ones your usually supplied with"
i just want to be able to filter outgoing numbers without having to call O2 to add it to our filter at their end (we use o2 to supply 2 ISDN 30's)
Soft PBXs all suck. You want Avaya if you want to play with the big boys for a reasonable price.
There is literally no PBX platform I've ever worked with that won't let you block outbound dialled numbers
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@DaveRandom ok, it's not that easy because is a shared host but it produces a lot of traffic, actual 100mb traffic could easily be made in 1 hour... i should try in early morning to notice the difference in the bandwidth counter..
Sometimes you have to get a bit creative with the dial plans, but it's always possible.
@wes It still shouldn't be that difficult, just take a sample of an hour. Look at the usage at the beginning, look at the usage at the end, and tot up the requests logged during that time period, simples
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:P because you think the cpanel bandwidth counter is in real time? sometimes it takes hours to update itself, who knows why
22:01
@bizzehdee O2's call charges are embarrassingly low. We just couldn't compete, even on the BTW silver tariff
@wes :-(
That does make it more of a challenge
@we
@wes hi
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@humphrey hi
@wes I need heed help please have u ever used Drupal
@DaveRandom: we get 100,000 minutes for £1200/mo
we get 2 fixed landlines on that too both with 24mbit DSL on them :)
@bizzehdee How many channels active on the I30s?
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22:05
@humphrey you pinged me instead of, for example, @DaveRandom because i look like a noob and he does not?
(there's a very good reason to avoid soft PBXs, unless things have changed drastically in the last couple of years all the available I30 cards suuuuuuck)
30 on one and 25 on the other
@wes The boy has a point :-P
...and that £1200 includes line rentals or no?
They cannot be making a profit from that
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i never used Drupal, well, except one time... i had to update a very old version. never saw so many warnings and notices in the same page in my whole life
Like, there's actually no way they can make a profit
36 month contract, and we paid like 2 grand set up
Even if you are dialling all O2 network numbers it's probably costing them more in electricity
@bizzehdee That's how much BTO charge for an I30 installation
They've not put a lot on top of that either
(it would actually be ~£1800 wholesale)
@wes you don't work with symfony much, huh?
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22:09
@dyelawn lol
we had BTO fit the lines, we had to pay them directly, £250 went right to BTO (two hundred and fifty)
second line was 300. paid o2 2 grand for each, and they sent out a guy who spent 30 seconds each time connecting a box to the line BTO fitted
@wes ok am intending to do a classifieds ads website but now am looking for the easiest platifor which will give me a great template . do u ahve ant Idea ? beacuse we Junior programmers we do not have design skills that's y am choosing that option. housetostay.co.za
What's going wrong here? I could reduce my code to something like this:

$a = array(&$a);
function fill (&$a, $i = 3) {
if (!$i--) return;
foreach ($a as &$tmp) {
$tmp = array($tmp ,&$a);
fill($tmp);
}
}
fill($a);

It always crashes with some stack overflow in the zval_mark_grey function in the zend garbage collector...?
22:11
@bizzehdee Ahh £2K per circuit starts to to tip it in the other direction.
It's an odd model though, get all your money up front and then bleed money through your ears for the rest of the term
also, @DaveRandom, its 1200 for 100,000 on 55 channels now, but 12 months ago, it was 1000 for 50,000 on 30 channels. when we got the extras, we negotiated the shit out of them
we were going to switch and go directly to BT, when we said that, O2 just gave us everything
You know what, no offence, but I'm bailing out of the conversation now. Only because I thought I'd left all this crap behind me, it's such an insanely and pointlessly complicated topic
Being a field engineer was way more fun
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@humphrey osclass.org
its ok. im too tired to be bothered anyway :)
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On another topic completely, I am now officially middle-aged: I have just booked a holiday with Eurocamp
@wes appreciated
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@DaveRandom how old are you?
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22:15
lol
@DaveRandom: im still a 12 year old that looks like a 28 year old... bought a nerf gun from the toy shop near the office, took it apart, beefed up the air cylinder, put it back together, and started shooting people in the office
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28 and you are married and have children? why did you ruined your life so early? :P
air cylinder for the pump action of a nerf gun is nearly 10mm thick, drilled it out to 4mm thick, thickened the compressor with a big fat washer. and boom! MORE POWER!
now you KNOW when that rubber "bullet" hits you
im gonna put my hat in with @DaveRandom, im also 28, also married, also have a kid
married nearly 4 years, little boy is 15 months old
@wes Not married and only 1 child. Oh yeh, Fight The Power!*
* Weekends only. Please note that power fighting is inadvisable while your child is awake
22:20
doing ANYTHING is inadvisable while your child is awake
brb smoke
@bizzehdee s/inadvisable/impossible/
hmmn.. lets check my emails... ohh, wait, i cant because the child is sat on my knee randomly hitting every key on the keyboard... ok, ill put the laptop away.. ohh, i cant, because he crys now im taking the laptop, which is now HIS toy, away
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:P
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brb smoke too
i cant eat unless he is eating, because he just comes and stands next to me, mouth open, going "AAHHHHHH!!!!!", meaning "give me the food now, i want the food.. give me the food"
one of the most infuriating ones is cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry me:"why are you crying. please stop crying" cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry me:"there is nothing wrong with you, i have checked and tried everything" cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry cry baby: "oooo. a cat" happy**happy**happy**happy**happy
WHAT THE FUCK WHERE YOU FUCKING CRYING ABOUT!
22:27
@bizzehdee With mine it's usually because I wouldn't give him a(nother) biscuit
I've run out of places to keep them that he doesn't know about
doesnt like having his nappy changed. screams the second you try to tip him back and tries to roll away, or get up and run away... and doesnt stop until you say "all done", he will carry on and on and on, unless you say "all done"
@bizzehdee Have you considered adoption?
we have figured out a golden goose though. my car keys. anyone elses keys, he doesnt want anything to do with. but, no matter how upset he is, no matter whats wrong. give him my car keys, its like someone flipped a switch. he just shuts up and sits and plays happily
@wes thanks but those files are not available for downloads I have tried several time but nothing I could get
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22:31
@MadaraUchiha lol
@bizzehdee Until he finally gets bored of those too :P
@bizzehdee Seriously man, Goodies gingerbread men. They're actually not very nice (they have like no sugar or salt or anything interesting) but all the kids seem to love them
@PeeHaa埽 what are you expecting to get out of meta.stackoverflow.com/q/171933/166899?
@bizzehdee i think this generation is really bad at "growing up"
on this happy thought i will go to sleep because tomorrow i have to be at work
@wes still same thing mybe there is a problem at my side
22:39
Can someone make this a of this? OP made another question regarding the same issue. I'm out of votes.
@DaveRandom: he doesnt seem to be in to biscuits or even sweets in general, hes mainly for the yoghurts. im sure he can hear me picking one up out of the fridge. if i pick up anything else, he carries on with what he is doing, if i pick up a yoghurt, he comes running
@wes thanks I managed to grab 1
but now are these drupal themes or they have there own platiform
@MadaraUchiha derp, sorry tired =o(
aaand i am out of votes
22:45
Tomorrow I need to tackle the driver problem thing
have a good night , boys and kittens
Need to install ATI drivers for Ubuntu
yey
@MadaraUchiha I haz same problem with nvidia
yey
23:16
@dyelawn I just saw that in the sidebar and actually lol'd
'When Jon Skeet's code fails to compile the compiler apologises.'
23:32
@hakre I wasn't aware strings had accents. I'll have to get @Jocelyn to send me a couple of strings, see if I can tell the difference.
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How do I rename an item in xml, using php? Here's my question, with my code so far: stackoverflow.com/questions/16114603/…
23:50
@DaveRandom another French programmer asking a strange question?
@Jocelyn No idea, but he seems to want a string with a french accent. I guess mine would be too british.
@DaveRandom in French we love to put accented characters in almost every word. Otherwise the language would be too simple :-)
@Jocelyn Oh yeh, we like to screw foreigners over by breaking our own language rules all the time :-P
I need to brush up on my French actually, I'm going for a week in June and I haven't spoken a word of French since I was about 15
je no se pas
je ne sais pas*
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23:57
@Jocelyn Well, I understand the first 3 words...
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