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7:57 AM
@kelunik It appears that you might've broken the wiki registration spam check template thing: externals.io/message/119757#119766 (Last paragraph).
 
 
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11:54 AM
@TimWolla thanks for the feedback will address this ASAP!
 
12:38 PM
Morning!
 
1:27 PM
o/
 
 
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3:53 PM
\o
 
 
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5:04 PM
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is there a nice way to say something like "there's no problem we can't not avoid if we keep fixating on them"?
or something about concentrating so much on common pitfalls we materialize them?
I think the optimistic way of saying it is like, "we should choose our problems carefully"
 
5:54 PM
Evening! \o
 
 
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7:24 PM
@IMSoP "I count 7 people who *could* be in the reply list for this message if it
hadn't been trimmed" - fancy writing some fancy words for me to add to https://phpopendocs.com/internals/mailing_list_for_younguns ?
 
7:46 PM
@Danack well, I can explain how I do it (and like others to do), but seemingly Tim and Derick have differing requirements / preferences
unless I'm misreading
 
this might be a email client issue....I don't see duplicates for replies. Though I do see a duplicates for some people e.g. ramsey@php.net , even when not replies.
 
8:36 PM
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has anyone got any news regarding the PHP-FIG PSR 21 on Internationalization?
At the moment I have all the translations of my project saved as constants in a php file and I was thinking of improving the way I deal with those.

I have some data in my database which refers kinda indirectly to the name of those constants and that made me think that I could move the entire translations to the database.. but that sounds extremely bad. I know this is a sort of X/Y question but yeah i'm looking for some standardized way on how to deal with translations as painlessly as possible
 
9:18 PM
@yessure maybe ask on the PHP-FIG discord server? php-fig.org/blog/2020/12/announcing-new-discord-server - though the actual link is waaaaay down the page.
and
yesterday, by Danack
@Tiffany Is anyone in touch with CMB? He normally approves accounts...
possibly neither of these is an optimal number of new packages...
 
@IMSoP You're reading that correctly. Or rather: I do not mind the courtesy copy and consider it helpful in some cases, especially for higher-volume lists. I tend to file the version with the List-ID header into a mailing list directory and the version without (but with the list in To/Cc) into a separate off-list folder.
 
@Danack I'll ask there, thank you!
 
What I find much more annoying is misthreaded emails or emails that include responses to more than one subthread within the same email. I blame Gmail's web interface for that.
 
> emails that include responses to more than one subthread within the same email.
Because you can't find the original message it's in reply to, or because you can't guess what the contents are going to be and so ignore boring stuff? Or something else?
 
The former. I rely on proper threading to use the list efficiently and to look up the context if necessary. That doesn't work if the reply does not contain an in-reply-to header pointing to the email actually replied to.
Likewise the Gmail interface, which doesn't do threading to my knowledge, makes it way to easy to attach a newly written email to whatever email is last in the entire thread, without caring about subthreads. So the responses tend to be all over the place, which is especially fun if the complete authorship info is stripped from the quote as well.
I had such a case recently. Someone replied to some thread I participated in, but to a different participant. I just happend to write the email with the "newest date" and thus the reply was attached to my email and I was confused why the person was responding to words I did not write.
 
9:38 PM
Do you fancy writing some words on "reply to the appropriate email" - for phpopendocs.com/internals/mailing_list?
 
I can look into that. It's primarily an issue with the Gmail web interface, so I would need to bring myself up to speed with that first. I believe the short answer is "use the reply button on the email you are actually replying to and not the text input Gmail helpfully adds at the bottom".
 
9:51 PM
@Danack Not having words for you yet, but looking into how that website works, it appears that the "Edit content" link at the bottom of that page results in a "File not found" error.
 
thanks.....
 
It appears the issue is that you are linking to a "main" branch, whereas the repository actually uses "master".
 
And missing an adequate number of tests to stop that happening.
 

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