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6:12 AM
The recent trend toward higher speeds with AVX-2 SIMD is interesting.
But, we may need to be aware of the clock-down problem that Intel CPUs have with the AVX instruction
https://blog.cloudflare.com/on-the-dangers-of-intels-frequency-scaling/
PHP is often executed in many process. The AVX-2 instructions improve the efficiency of single instruction performance, but threads running in parallel that do not use SIMD are subject to clock down. This can affect servers with high RPS
On the other hand, these problems are mitigated on CPUs from IceLake or later:
https://travisdowns.github.io/blog/2020/08/19/icl-avx512-freq.html
I would like your opinion on this.
 
how to sneeze by the wrong way?
 
 
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7:53 AM
@zeriyoshi It's mostly the AVX512 and FMA-class AVX2 instructions that downclock iirc.
 
8:11 AM
Yes, I believe that up to AVX2 is already positively available. But there is already a proposal out there for AVX-512:https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/6361

Also, I have tried several times AVX2 SIMD for PHP acceleration in SKX (Skylake-X) environments, with poor results and a tendency to get worse. I guess this is partly because I don't fully understand the characteristics of the architecture.
 
 
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10:36 AM
hey guys
so i made a bounty for a question, just checked i have two correct answers both fixed my code
one was clearly 17hrs earlier but i like the second one better, both are very correct
is there a way i can award more bounty points to the second person, after awarding the initial bounty to the first?
 
 
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12:38 PM
@BobbyAxe just award the one you deemed better. It's your bounty to issue as you see fit. If you want to award some to the other answer you could just add a new bounty. But it's not necessary, Qs often get multiple correct/good answers.
tho I personally may be reluctant to award the later one if it seems like it was written off the back of the much earlier one. Which may be obvious, or not
 
 
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1:39 PM
Watching these Hogwarts Legacy streams is killing me... I've got to get the game. It looks so good!
 
Wes
1:55 PM
@MarkR ah good news
wait @PeeHaa and @Ekin are getting married? wtf I've been away for too long
a love born because of PHP.... how unf...awesome :D I joke. I wish you an infinitely happy life friends <3
 
They got married a few weeks ago
 
Wes
wow congratulations!
 
2:11 PM
@Wes That brings up a good question Wes... @PeeHaa @Ekin Was there any PHP theme along with the wedding at all?
So, I've been doing a lot of ancestry research as of late. I thought I had a lot more Irish roots than anything, but it looks like most roads lead to Scotland in my ancestral past. Irish comes in second, followed by England, Germany, Switzerland, French, and Netherlands. I really want to do a 23 and me test now to get more info. It's been very interesting to research.
One of my Scottish ancestors actually came to Virginia because he was involved in the war with England and was captured, became an indentured servant, was taken to the British colonies in America, earned his freedom eventually and married a woman he met in Virginia.
Another Irish ancestor was a stow away on ship to Jamestown.
There are a lot of unfortunate things that have happened in history, but some of those incidents led to me even existing. Really quite interesting to think of everything that has occurred in our pasts that brought us to being in the first place.
steps down from soapbox, looks around ...good day.
 
Wes
a friend from turkey told me they paid an "earthquake tax" for decades and that money which was billions has strangely disappeared. curious. this dude is a surgeon and is volunteering with medical aid since the first quake. basically nothing has been done in the first 24 hours. people trapped under the rubble at -5°c with no supplies unlikely survived. he estimated 100,000 deaths, which is quite a lot more of the 5,000 "confirmed" so far
 
This seems to be a common occurrence with government and money. They always think there will be more later to use when needed, so we'll just use this earmarked money for something else more practical for now.
In some cases this is okay... but when it comes to emergency funds... it should be saved for said emergency.
 
Wes
2:40 PM
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peehaa's tuxedo.
sorry couldn't resist.
 
Wes
2:56 PM
a php themed wedding would've been hilarious tbh
 
3:08 PM
@Wes 🤯
 
3:28 PM
@StatikStasis Sweet. :D Is that a thing or joke?
 
Joke
@Wes HAHAHA!
 
3:40 PM
I would watch that. :s
 
Wes
this stuff is nuts.
i predict bing gaining 50% of the internet search market share in the next 5 years
just read the complexity of that analogy
 
I'm going to be contrarian here and say that analogy sounds very forced and doesn't make sense. I bet ChatGPT will pick a handful of different objects related to the old west (like a wagon wheel) and use that to describe anything you ask it to describe "like a cowboy." In this case, the parts of the wheel it uses are not all that analogous to HTTPS, but it sounds like it fits.
 
Wes
@Danack Paperback £19.99 looks like
 
@ramsey confidently incorrect
 
@Tiffany Exactly! And the danger it that it sounds so correct and confident in its description that others will assume it is correct.
 
something about parrots also - jwz.org/blog/2023/02/the-bullshit-fountain
> ChatGPT is a part of a reality distortion field that obscures the underlying extractivism and diverts us into asking the wrong questions and worrying about the wrong things. Instead of expressing wonder, we should be asking whether it's justifiable to burn energy at "eye watering" rates to power the world's largest bullshit machine.
 
4:09 PM
I haven't used it as a rubber duck, but my impression is that it would make an effective rubber duck...
 
Wes
 
we tell people to "google it" which... as time has gone on... it's become a prompt engine for finding relevant information
requires enough knowledge of keywords to know what to look for
 
Wes
an attempt was made and that's mind blowing
 
I'm not saying it's not an amazing feat
 
I imagine chatgpt to be an extension of that... to be able to converse with an interactive engine to ... bounce ideas off
that eventually lead a person to figure out a problem on their own
 
4:11 PM
@Tiffany The problem is that good search skills used to be a thing, but now, those same skills return shit results
I feel like internet search has been pretty bad for the last decade
 
right... it depends on the ability of SEO... trying to find a specific blog post on a topic relevant to an issue .... next to impossible to find the blog post because I have to wade through a sea of other people who have posted something vaguely similar and their SEO is better
 
If chatgpt can fix that, great! I mean, what is a search engine if not a Markov chain to guess what the next likely thing should be?
 
there's some amount of balance of privacy concerns with google knowing too much... and making it easier to find something I've looked up ages ago... google having the ability to tell me I visited a page on M/D/Y date
 
true
 
I'm curious about using chatgpt for writing cover letters... because it's an activity that exhausts my creativity for a day...
 
4:17 PM
I'm curious about using it for writing prompts
 
@ramsey An ol' cowboy couldn't abstract much more terms than this? Take it or leave it. :)
 
4:58 PM
@Tiffany I've actually used it for this purpose. Ex. Write an email to board about sales performance in company, write an email about written warning concerning [insert issue]. I have to go back and wordsmith it, but it inserts all the pleasantries of the start and end of an email so I can just go back in and plug in the content of the email... which is a time saver.
@ramsey A rock song for you from ChatGPT. i.imgur.com/NLQHJG5.png
 
Fun, I just upgraded my machine to latest Debian unstable... and now it doesn't boot straight through.
Need to go through recovery mode... but then it works fine.
@ramsey Didn't you have a twitter bot markov chain at some point?
 
5:23 PM
I suppose my opinion with chatgpt is that it can be used as a support, a tool... but not as a replacement. It fails too much at getting stuff correct to be a replacement... then there's stuff like vice.com/en/article/k7bdmv/… that makes me uneasy
> But the developers warn that the tool still has significant limitations and should not be used for consequential decision-making.
 
5:49 PM
yooo @Wes
 
Wes
6:10 PM
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10:03 PM
@TimWolla / @cmb any word on that crypt issue? I don't see it in the release log...?
 
cmb
@ircmaxell That has been postponed to Feb 14th (there is another sec fix pending, which has to be coordinated between different projects).
 
@cmb sgtm, but a bit surprised at it...
 
JRL
hey all, been a while since i've been around
how is everyone doing?
 
Wes
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10:34 PM
Will be moving into a smaller apartment in a month :/
Because New Mexico scoffs at the idea of rent control and bans it outright
 
10:48 PM
@Trowski Are there any resources on using amphp/http-client to create API SDKs, or do you know of any API SDKs based on amphp/http-client that I could refer to as examples?
 
11:16 PM
@ramsey Nothing focused on creating an API SDK library. symfony/http-client can use v4 of amphp/http-client, though that's probably not what you're looking for. The docs for v5 look up to date and are fairly thorough. Any issues or questions you have?
 

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