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JRL
JRL
00:03
i will still need to bat-signal someone who know the opcache and JIT on the implementation though
it's still impossible to correctly preserve implementation precedence between competing implementations consistently on > and < until > is separated out into its own OPCODE
that also involves fixing the constant ZEND_UNCOMPARABLE so that it makes more sense
which also involves making sure the INF and -INF comparisons with floats dont break
@JRL Congratulations! WTF are you doing in channel???
JRL
JRL
@Crell ha, my wife and i both wanted to just chill at home and do nothing on our day after :)
Can relate... (I got married in March.)
JRL
JRL
congrats! :)
belatedly
@JRL Congratulations but also.....stop thinking about internals. I propose a new room rule, no talking about internals on the day after your wedding or birth of a child or any other joyous life event.
also, did you have a nice cake?
JRL
JRL
00:17
ha, yes. i actually am not a sweets person generally, but i loved our cake. banana cake with vanilla custard and marrionberry filling, with a vanilla cream cheese frosting, and about 1/3 the usual frosting you get on a cake.
great flavor, pretty light, not overly sweet
Sounds great, I would say send me a slice in the post, but that's maybe a bad idea.
JRL
JRL
fortunately, virtually all the cake was consumed at the event
as was virtually all the food
was not super interested in handling tons of leftovers
Sounds yummy.
 
11 hours later…
11:12
We had a cheese cake. A cake, made out of cheese.
11:39
Cheese cakes are delicious though
12:38
Morning
I love cheesecake.
 
2 hours later…
14:44
Should === deal differently with array access warning?
$arr['foo'] === 'moo', this never needs to warn, because null or unset is false enough
$arr['foo'] === null; <--- false if foo is not set, but maybe unexpected then? Pja.
15:12
@OlleHärstedt that's not the point, but catching typos, so if you had set $arr['fo'] = 'moo';, you wouldn't be notified
15:23
@bwoebi Ah, good point
Thus I suggest the operator ==== :D That checks typo
Hm, but the idiom if ($arr['foo'] ?? 0 === 1) has similar issue with typo?
Answer is to just not use array
Is this an rvalue/lvalue thing?
@OlleHärstedt that's why you don't use ?? unless necessary and try to design your code that it needs ?? as little as possible
15:53
By never using arrays... ;)
@JRL Congrats, but also get out of here lol
Writing the migration this year is somewhat painless as not too much was done
Well at least the MVP of it
Hahahah.... BB scrounger emails security@ and Ondrej has officially had enough of it: """this is open source project run by volunteers. If you are security expert I would expect you to know that."
He's been (rightfully) getting uppier and uppier.
16:19
Hi!
cmb
cmb
@Girgias Yay, we have a volunteer! :p
That anonymous user who submits notes with "Did you forget to document something?" almost every hour should be banned. Or probably, we should not allow anonymous posting (but require email verification).
Yeah that one is annoying
Or just disable comments. :-)
Also ban people using php.net addresses when they clearly don't exist
or just in general... as php.net holders should know better and fix the docs
cmb
cmb
16:34
@Girgias That might be a bug (or feature); if you don't enter a full email address, you get that main.php.net domain for free.
@cmb Why would PHP need 100 recursions of compressed files for phars? Shouldn't "5" be more sensible? (Or rather, I think just "2") might be enough. tbh, IMO it should never have recursed.
cmb
cmb
@Derick Yeah, should not have recursed in the first place. The actual number doesn't matter to me; 100 was just something to start with. :)
make it 0b100 and the patch looks OK?
as for the n+1 bug, the suggestion in there seems reasonable. I can have a look at that (tomorrow)?
cmb
cmb
16:53
@Girgias I've checked that: if you enter [email protected] or leave the field empty, your name is "Anonymous". And apparently the mail server appends the main.php.net domain in case the domain is missing; in the manual such notes are displayed without domain.
@Sara is that the same one you posted on AmongPHP about modulus?
@Tiffany No, a different one.
17:15
@cmb Huh
cmb
cmb
Other than that, the validation is foolproof. :p
@cmb Is this where one should point out that actually the pipe is a valid character in an email address? ;-)
Flowchart: [ You have a character ] ---> < Is the character valid in an email address > --No--> [ Are you sure? ] ---> [ The email address is valid. ]
cmb
cmb
17:47
@TimWolla That might be something special with the mailer software. Anyway, maybe a small improvement.
18:11
is the correct way to state a class property is using Class::$property, even if $property isn't static? and the reason for it is because there isn't an object associated, it's to delineate "this is a property of this class"
@Tiffany How would a non-static property be instantiated on a class if the class itself was never instantiated?
Or do you want to simply reference the uninstantiated property without accessing it?
 
1 hour later…
19:41
@cmb I assume this is intended as a protection against shell injection, because something does (did?) an exec somewhere.
And I was (partly) joking there. The pipe actually is valid, but if someone actually uses such an email address non-ironically then I guess it's acceptable for us not to accept it.
 
1 hour later…
21:02
Greetings All!

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