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JRL
12:14 AM
hmmm
is master not building right now?
i'm getting a build error in ext/sockets/conversions.c
ah, only with debug on
because then autoconf adds -Wall
 
12:44 AM
-Wall should be enabled all the time
 
JRL
well gcc is failing to build master because of unused functions in ext/sockets
for me
in debug
 
JRL
1:41 AM
well, that makes it kind of hard for me to debug
 
 
9 hours later…
10:20 AM
Mo/rning
 
 
1 hour later…
11:22 AM
@Danack interesting behavior between IM6 and IM7 (draw failure when default font not available) forum.remirepo.net/viewtopic.php?id=4339 FYI I will make these fonts a dependency of the IM package to avoid other questions
IIRC you talk about this in a commit setting default font for tests, btw, error message is not very clear... will try to thing if a better failure is possible
 
11:34 AM
How is it resolving without a mime magic file, or which ini setting should i be checking
 
cmb
@ln-s there's a build in database; use php.net/manual/en/function.finfo-open.php, to use your own
 
the docs make it sound like the ini setting is always the path to a file
ok
 
cmb
12:04 PM
Any ideas why several mysqli tests are failing for the nightly DEBUG_ZTS_MSAN CI? Too slow? Different configuration?
Also any idea what to do about the Laravel test suite failing in the nightly community CI?
 
12:26 PM
@cmb It looks like OpenSSL is missing, but it is puzzling me too
 
cmb
@Dharman ah, indeed; I wonder whether this is missing intentionally.
 
cmb
1:23 PM
Can anybody explain why Cirrus CI/FreeBSD allows to modify a file with mod 0444? Test case. Result.
 
IGP
1:52 PM
o/
 
2:08 PM
Morgens
 
2:51 PM
Good mornin, good moooornin
 
3:05 PM
Mornin'
 
@RemiCollet yeah.......fonts are a shitshow. tbh, I think the whole 'using system fonts' is a dumb thing to begin with, as fonts are data files that should be shipped with an application, not something applications hope are installed correctly on a system.
Figuring out what to do about fonts is on my 'todo list'. My guess is that adding support for variable fonts to ImageMagick is the way out of the mess, and the ImageMagick guys are open to that idea "PRs welcome" - github.com/ImageMagick/ImageMagick/issues/4604
 
IGP
Just got out of a meeting. Management's been doing hard drugs again.
 
How is your job hunting going?
 
IGP
Not great.
May I amuse you with the story of the lastest big idea?
*latest
 
3:25 PM
Feel free to post, but I suspect it's going to be more sad than truly funny.
 
IGP
Alright.
 
btw for job hunting, making it be a regular task that you do for a few hours per week, rather than having it be a 'special thing' that you only do every few years, might make it less of an emotional drain.
 
IGP
Even if your job's not awful?
 
Yeah.....unless you're working at your dream job, and you're pretty sure that it's the opportunity of a lifetime (e.g. working on your own startup) then spending an hour a week on either updating your CV, talking to people about what their company is like to work for (which is a good thing to do at conferences), or even just thinking about what you want to do next (and maybe starting a project on github that shows your interest in that stuff), is all something that pays off over time.
Just looking at job adverts can be a little depressing, as to quite a large extent, it's the worst companies that have trouble recruiting that do the most open advertising of jobs.
 
IGP
That's an interesting take. I'll try to take your advice starting this weekend.
But anyways, here's the story.

So this company is not a dev company. It has a tiny IT area. The websites it offers are mainly about employee management and hr. Rather than a generic one size fits all, all the business logic is custom made for each client. The workflows the clients want to see range from nonsensical to absurd to me. So... the company's manager decided we should start building a site that offers generic solutions with the possibility of customizing if the clients pay more. Every current project has to be integrated there.
 
3:41 PM
I have the strongest sense of deja-vu: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/11?m=53497263#53497263
 
IGP
Indeed
 
> all the business logic is custom made for each client
Is this hell? This is hell, right?
 
Theoretically, if the company was charging enough per client, that business model could work.....but yeah. One of the problems with so many companies is that they don't track the cost of software development and maintenance, so the sales people get bonuses for selling stuff that is going to make the company lose money.
 
IGP
3:56 PM
@LeviMorrison I hope so. It means things can only get better.
I have no idea what their finances really look like. They had a very big growth last year according a meeting I went to when I first joined, but for all I know that's just a sales pitch for investors to dump money on the company
I think the team is small, so the company might just be getting big money by taking on too many projects.
I have a feeling "maintenance" is not really a part of the vocabulary here. There are only new requirements.
 
4:13 PM
finally installing xdebug ... for a work project ...
 
@Trowski yup, that did it, thanks!
 
5:21 PM
lol, nice^
\o
 
o/
 
5:38 PM
TIL domain names can contain emojis
 
hmm? I thought that was a trick browsers played for us, accentuated characters being seen as such?
 
It's punycode
 
^ Yeah I guess it's just a Punycode representation of the emoji, but I assume the DNS server has to transform it so
Unless it is the browser that does converts it to punycode
 
o/
 
5:51 PM
\o
 
@Tiffany You gave me a command (months ago in this room) that transfers a file from the local computer to the server (an alternative for Filezilla), I cannot find it here, do you remember what was that?
 
scp ?
 
yes that, thanks
 
scp localfile username@host:.
 
 
3 hours later…
8:50 PM
yup, that
or if you need to download from a remote server locally: scp username@hostname:/path/to/file . where . is the current local directory
. can be changed to another local directory following linux file paths
 
9:04 PM
Found today that while executing a PDO statement, the exception throw contains a code which is a string, when using strict types and passing the code to a rethrown exception PHP will complain that the $code argument in the exception must be of type int, personally I would consider switching code to string in \Throwable
Something strange in 7.4 is that the error states long not int

https://3v4l.org/c8i4m

Fatal error: Uncaught Error: Wrong parameters for Exception([string $message [, long $code [, Throwable $previous = NULL]]]) in /in/c8i4m:3
I believe, the case with PDO is due to the exception code being yield from MySQL itself
I had 4S0 something looked like a mysql code
42S02
Trying a query on a non existing table
exact error
mysql> select * from t;
ERROR 1146 (42S02): Table 'my_db.t' doesn't exist
so to respect the original code, the constructor should just take in strings
 
Is anybody up for a round of among us by any chance>?
It's been soo long I played, but we are about to start a round with me, Ekin and Felix in a bit
@StatikStasis stahp working noaw!
 
There's an AmongPHP discord server :P
 
I thought peter was already there
 
Might be someone bored
Ekin and Felix are, PeeHaa isn't
Sent an invite over discord @PeeHaa
 
9:23 PM
I feel you like did that before :D
 
probably
slowly trying to get all of the original Among Us r11 players in there :P
cause then we have enough people to play on a semi-regular basis
 
 
2 hours later…
10:59 PM
@PeeHaa lol- cannot at the moment. =/
Also.. have you tried Disgaea yet?
 

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