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3:59 AM
Can we have a joke RFC next April Fool's day, anything entertaining and wholesome, in the spirit of HTTP 418
Maybe something with cats :P
Computerized Abstraction TCP Server... I dunno
Cache Abstraction Thread Safe
 
 
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6:22 AM
@kelunik finally blocks: 3v4l.org/EbtNF /cc @Danack
@kelunik Thinking something like this?
 
 
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11:21 AM
@Trowski That might be a good idea, too, but was thinking about @bwoebi's case with the unreferenced delay inside Future::iterate()
 
 
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1:13 PM
@Trowski I can see how that is useful, but that is a giant WTF.
Aaaaaaaand not mentioned in the RFC - wiki.php.net/rfc/finally
 
1:29 PM
@Danack IIRC that was not part of the initial implementation either
 
1:40 PM
@bwoebi so weird behaviour slipped in without being part of an RFC......even better.
 
2:06 PM
@Tiffany +1
 
2:30 PM
I think we could use something lighthearted
Not something that a lot of time is spent on, but something that gives people a chortle
 
2:42 PM
A kitten() function, which does... I don't know what.
 
Mar 31 '16 at 22:46, by Danack
please only do Aprils Fools if they are i) funny ii) likely to fool people......the way that some sites (particularly slashdot) just post obviously false stories, is deeply unamusing..
And they have to be amusing even once you know it's a joke. e.g.: youtube.com/watch?v=tVo_wkxH9dU&ab_channel=MySwitzerland
 
One certain angry Latvian said it better than I ever could: April fools' is fucking stupid for most projects
 
3:19 PM
morns
@PeeHaa hey it's hacktoberfest again, is there anything you need on jeeves or something? There's just one week left and I haven't done anything.
 
@mega6382 Soooo there is one thing I needed to look at
2 days ago, by PeeHaa
hmmm I am getting a login error from SO
Login seems to be broken
 
3:34 PM
@Danack spirit of HTTP 418
 
@Crell Do something really crazy, like rename all the operators to be hebrew.
 
That's not fun :(
Rather that borders too many issues and isn't really that silly
What brought this on: a lot of stuff happening IRL that has made me seek out lighthearted stuff a lot more to keep my mood up, reading a tweet about HTTP status codes, and remembering HTTP 418 was a thing
And given everything going on in the world, something lighthearted and silly would be nice for April Fool's. Assuming things are still doom and gloom by that point.
I intended this only as a silly RFC that wouldn't reach voting, like the RFC about including Nikita into PHP
So wouldn't break anything in PHP, something to give a laugh, generate some positive/happy energy and then move on :P
 
3:59 PM
how about announcing a replacement for pear/pecl, to skip over pickle, and call the new one "pearcle"?
 
@PeeHaa ok, great will check that out. :)
 
Let me know if you need any info or I need to tag something in a certain way or do anything really :)
 
Sure, no problem will let you know.
@Tiffany I think the joke is that this is already the case with some operators in php like the infamous 'T_PAAMAYIM_NEKUDOTAYIM' :p
 
4:24 PM
@mega6382 yeah, no, I got that.
PHP has its history, but making an April Fool's joke based on that lacks tact, particularly given the current situation in Israel.
 
@kelunik I guess we could throw if a number of exceptions have been collected but the iterator has not ended. Would likely need to be implemented on each collector, not in iterate?
 
This has already expended more energy than I intended. I'll either throw something together as it nears that time, or not. (Re: April Fool's joke)
 
@Tiffany my biggest regret is that we never voted on that rfc ...
> Opcache will be provided with its own unicorn.
I make me chuckle ...
@Tiffany who are you trying to make laugh ? except for the 7 people that understood the actual joke (which is the overuse of the word mandatory, not merging niki), nobody got it ...
I'm saying inside jokes only work on the inside, and anything else isn't really funny to the people you're trying to make laugh ... imo ...
 
4:49 PM
@JoeWatkins something silly to make anyone laugh, outsiders or insiders. I've just had a lot of bad shit occur IRL in the past two weeks and remembering things like 418 I'm a teapot existing make me smile.
 
@Trowski Unfortunately, yes, and I'm not sure whether it's worth it.
@Trowski Unfortunately, we can't properly iterate, because we accept iterators and pass them to Future::iterate.
 
5:27 PM
@JoeWatkins I can only imagine what would happen in a future where AI become our overlords, we've written them to take things literally, and they start to go through the backlog of unfinished human projects, then stumble upon that RFC. "This was supposed to release in PHP 6, but PHP 6 never existed. ERROR ERROR ERROR ERROR" ... but if that future was ever reached, there would probably be failsafes in place to prevent that...
Well, PHP 6 was never released, it did exist... briefly...
I can't type
 
@Tiffany here, take this and calm down reddit.com/r/aww/comments/qefyhb/double_dose
let's continue this some other time
April is quite some time away still
 
@kelunik @Trowski I don't suppose either of you have some cunning plan to allow emulating a full websocket server / client without actually needing to run it as a server...?
 
@MarkR I guess you mean for testing?
 
Yup
 
That should already be possible, because it's all covered by interfaces.
 
5:42 PM
Hmmmmm
 
@mega6382 you probably didn't intend it, but poor choice of words
 
hmmm, yeah, probably
 
@MarkR But you'll have to decide where to mock, or you can use in memory sockets, whatever you want
 
@MarkR There's a few ways to approach that. The Client is easy to mock since it's an interface. You can set up an HttpServer instance during the test and send it mocked requests. You can also use http-client to send requests to the full server within a test.
 
@Trowski I think i'll need your help with that next week. I'm at the point where I probably should think about getting tests done
 
6:05 PM
@MarkR Sounds good. Hopefully we can do some local stress testing too.
 
@Trowski ... local? :P
 
Heh, well both I guess.
 
100k sockets at prod, what's the worst that can happen
 
What smells like burning?
 
6:39 PM
@Tiffany /me invokes PSR-8 on @Tiffany
 
6:56 PM
@Crell :)
 
7:14 PM
off-topic, but that volcano in the Canaries is being quite dramatic: youtube.com/watch?v=yuua_G7852c&ab_channel=Levonel
 
7:35 PM
@MarkR No ephemeral ports left on the load balancer. :P
 
8:00 PM
What does this mean?
1. Does it mean, "people those who are not vaccinated die" ?
2. Or, does it mean, "people die, even those who have vaccinated" ?
 
I would read that sentence as "Russia deals with having low vaccine rates and lots of dead people."
 
^
 
Though it's a link to a Discord channel I'm not in, so I have no idea of the context.
 
Oh, sorry for the link, the link is youtube.com/watch?v=hOxMj3wKU7o
also thanks, I got the meaning
 
Headlines tend to use a very concise style of English that tends to cause confusion, sometimes intentionally
 
8:05 PM
I see
 
The comma there roughly translates as "and", but uses fewer characters.

Headline writers have been aiming for tweet-sized headlines since before Twitter existed. :-)
 
:-)
 
@Crell And before twitter increased the character count. :P
 
8:21 PM
@kelunik Humm, might actually have to investigate that. Maybe add another few IPs
 
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8:57 PM
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9:14 PM
Do you mean an apprenticeship?
Ah, not worth engaging. Spam-ish.
 
 
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11:25 PM
@MarkR or just iptables forward some more ports for your app to listen on essentially
 

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