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12:00 AM
who uses a file for a web dev portfolio anymore?
tempted to just upload a word document with links to stuff... but that would be passive-aggressive
 
@Tiffany they must be living in 2010
:P
 
Wes
12:28 AM
hey, i still think 1998 was 10 years ago
 
I do too :S
 
@Wes I was born in 1998 and i think that it was forever ago for me
 
Wes
literally :D
 
@mega6382 Oh neat, someone else born the same year as I :D
 
kids
 
12:43 AM
lol
@Tiffany I really like hanging out here in that regard because I find so many great role models here that work in the same field as me. @Gordon has been my role model for such a long time now and I doubt he even knows that. :p
 
 
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1:46 AM
i thought developers chat in codes :)
 
2:06 AM
@Zeko that would be difficult to read
And impractical
 
But we do chat in codes... Ascii codes
 
한굴
 
@Tiffany pfttttttttt
 
I see your ASCII and raise you Unicode
 
I take your unicode and raise you thicc UTF32
 
2:17 AM
마크
Weird thing with Korean is that some consonants from English are completely lost, even if there is a consonant for the letter, the sound won't make sense
Also my weird hobby: writing English words in 한굴, not even translating them...
티파니
@MarkR but the question is, can you utilize full UTF-32?
 
I have no idea :o
 
2:42 AM
And now I'm trying to write my sister's, niece's and nephew's names in Korean
My sister's is easy: 타비타
루시 = Lucy, one of my cats names, but my other cat, Ricky is 리키 but... 리키 can also be pronounced "licky" .....
Though, kind of makes sense for cats
 
2:59 AM
@Girgias ّI like this idea!
 
 
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6:00 AM
morns
 
 
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10:19 AM
mornings
 
10:36 AM
o/
 
\o
 
0/
 
Good afternoon to both of you
 
10:53 AM
\o
 
 
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12:03 PM
Morning
 
12:40 PM
Morning
 
Morning
 
@Tiffany Huh so Korean has the same L/R issue as Japanese
 
@Girgias yup
@Girgias ㄹ is r/l
Korean is an interesting language, almost no hanja either
At least, I don't think it's taught anymore to children
 
1:00 PM
@Tiffany Chinese Characters? A friend who studied it, told me it's still used for formal occasions like degrees/certificates
However, does Korean have two English imported words to mean "Glass", but in different contexts
 
@Girgias I don't know much about translation :S but I like the history of the language
And its alphabet, I think it's superior to the Latin alphabet, heh
I've tried learning Korean a few times but I'm terrible at pronunciation. But I memorized the alphabet at one point.
@Girgias and that makes sense, that it's used for formal occasions.
 
@Tiffany Well practice, and take it slowly ^^
One good tip is actually to just listen to stuff made for nativs, like a podcast or so, even without learning your brain kinda starts picking up patterns
 
Yeah, I've done that. Also used to watch a few Korean dramas.
도깨비 is a fun one
I should find a StarCraft 2 Korean podcast...
 
1:19 PM
Could be helpful :p
 
1:40 PM
@Girgias hypothetically, if I thought you mispronounced an word, would you like me to tell you here, privately on say twitter, or just not?
Also, I'm tempted to say that problems with representing written language on a computer are off-topic for this room, as unsolvable problems are kind of depressing...
 
1:56 PM
@Danack Unicode?
 
2:13 PM
@Danack You can say it here, because it's very likely I did and I don't mind being corrected
I get a bunch of languages mixed up anyway
 
2:58 PM
@Tiffany if you think it's weird that Asian languages are missing the distinction between "l" and "r", try getting a French speaker to say the two different consonants we spell "th"; then try pronouncing the Czech consonant "ř" or the Polish "ɫ"
apparently, we pretty much hard-code the distinctions we need for our native language around 2 years old
 
3:22 PM
If I get pronunciation wrong, please do tell (in private).
I learned some funny Norwegian sounds that neither English, Dutch, or German have...
 
@IMSoP nah, don't think it's weird. A French girl I used to play a game with brought that to our guild's attention with a skit by a French comedian... learning English in French schools
 
the y, kj, and ski (with the later being more confusing due to local dialects)
 
"where is Jenny? The sister of the Brian? She is the the baTHroom!"
 
the øy combination is fun too
 
Do you plan to learn Swedish, @Derick?
 
3:24 PM
@Tiffany WHERE IS BRIAN
 
the a in bath and path also is pronounced differently depending on where you are in the UK
 
@Girgias :D
 
@Tiffany No plans... but I can most read and understand it
I'm attempting Welsh now though :-)
 
One of my favorite bands, a Swedish progressive rock band, recorded their last album in Swedish and English. The Swedish recording sounds really cool.
 
/me finishes email to ex-coworkers
 
3:46 PM
but now who's going to ork those cows?
 
 
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5:04 PM
@Girgias yacht rhymes with 'not', because we stole it from the Dutch, and it's their fault that the spelling is silly. Think you said it more like 'bought'.
 
@Danack Huh, didn't know that, so it's sound a bit like the letter 'J' when said in German
 
5:20 PM
@Danack I pronounce yacht, like not, like bought, even like bot.
How is "bought" pronounced over the pond?
 
@Sara So, there was only one change required in the lexer. github.com/php/php-src/compare/… The parser was already implemented. There have been some people questioning whether this is necessary (which I think is a legitimate question). I'm ok either way. If we do decide not to merge this we should remove the parser rule and add a test to make sure it behaves correctly.
 
@Tiffany bought == bort.....though this might be easier via something other than text.
@Girgias yeah, pretty sure it's the same sequence of exciting adventures the letter i had from a while ago, leaving the names John, Iain, Yahn and Johanne being different spellings of the "same" original name.
 
Ianto
 
5:35 PM
@Danack Possible, the confusing one to me is that William is the English version of "Guillaume" which I also find weird
 
5:58 PM
Apparently that’s not English’s fault for once, as it’s French that started pronouncing g’s a w. War ->guerre, wager>gager, willhelm>gillhelm
 
Doesn't surprise me, but I think that's something Latin related then, because Italian and Spanish does the same
 
6:24 PM
Related: historyofenglishpodcast.com/episodes — I've nearly caught up
Isn't this a bit too late @Sara and @GabrielCaruso ? twitter.com/PHPRFCBot/status/1292507267950981120
 
It is
 
@Derick Yeah, we voted and nothing of this is new, so...
 
Are you trying to troll ? ;-)
 
@Derick Who me? :D
 
6:41 PM
;-)
Dinner making time
 
7:04 PM
It seems like the usual hot Augusts my area gets is now in Europe this year
 
7:47 PM
@Tiffany I'm literally sweating as you say this 🥵
In all honesty, it's not even that hot, I think I'm just getting old(er) :P
 
@Danack gager?
 
@IluTov that's how it was for me last year. It's 31C outside, but feels about 25C in my apartment.
 
8:01 PM
@FlorianMargaine apparently a french word I've never heard of :-D
 
@Tiffany I can deal with it throughout the day but if it doesn't cool down at least a little at night I start to get over it.
In Switzerland (at least the northern parts) AC isn't really very common since it doesn't usually get very hot. But sometimes it still does.
 
8:44 PM
 
Anyone got a DELL XPS running Linux? Happy with it? Anything I need to know? Or does somebody have a different laptop running Linux they're really happy with?
 
9:01 PM
@lluTov Nah, linux is a battery killer unless you make it ugly with Fedora and light stuff, keep a laptop on windows
i tried Ubuntu on Huawei Matebook d14, on windows i get ~9hrs, on ubuntu i get 3~4
 
@Zeko I don't care (that much) about battery life, I just want to use Docker and develop C/Rust without wanting to shoot myself.
 
@IluTov system76 has some decent laptops I've looked at
I haven't owned one, but I know someone who has, he was happy with it (granted, this was about five years ago)
 
@Tiffany Ah man, more options to look at :D It's hopeless, I'll never decide ^^
 
9:17 PM
great options
 
Memory leak in zend_hash ・ Scripting Engine problem ・ #79947
 
@IluTov if you only ever plan to use Linux, system76 is good
 
@Tiffany Unfortunately, I'll still probably have to use Windows for some things. But according to their FAQs that shouldn't be a problem.
Of course, I'd need to buy a Windows license though, so I'll have to take that into account when comparing prices.
 
@lluTov you can buy a windows key on ebay for 2$ lol
 
10:17 PM
@IluTov I've ran Ubuntu in a VM on my XPS 13 9370 and it works pretty well.
Only for a few tasks though not my daily driver
 
10:29 PM
Ftr I am using for literally everything forever
 
1) Forget everything you know about Maroon 5
2) Listen to Songs About Jane
3) ?
4) profit
 
I know literally nothing about maroon 5 so that wont be difficult
 
basically they are pop af
 
I've probably heard their thing, but am unlikely to be able to tell you who performed any song unless it was S Club 7 or steps, and even then i'd probably get it wrong... it's just not something I expend memory on :p
 
10:38 PM
basically start here youtube.com/watch?v=rV8NHsmVMPE and tell me honestly that it isn't delicious
ideally go on spotify and get the sweary version thoug
 
That sounds like it will interupt me watching Yes Minister and Linus tech tips clips though
 
fair
 
and yes minister is pretty epic
 
ftr Yes PM is better, but only because they were presented a much better set of current affairs
 
I'd agree with that
 
10:41 PM
also "TPLAC" is probably the best example of a thing I entirely disagree with but also I still have no problems with
...my headphones have moved on to playing me Jimmy Eat World somehow, although they don't seem to be connected to my PC anymore
(and I am not currently playing jimmy)
@MarkR not even slightly sorry open.spotify.com/track/…
(that will start a solid 2 days worth of falling down a hole for me)
 
@Tiffany nowhere near dark enough for a sunday eve
youtube.com/watch?v=d8ekz_CSBVg <-- start there and work your way down to a pure a hatred of humans as a species
 
Parks and Rec is one of the best shows ever
 
no, see, you clearly don't understand Sunday Night Hate
ugh, fine, if you must be happy, do it with open.spotify.com/track/…
 
argh, I tried moving my monitors around on my desk but I don't like it... I'm going to have to move them back
 
@Tiffany It's either this or very old Coldplay B-sides. Genuinely, your choice.
Just to prove that is not an idle threat: open.spotify.com/track/…
 
11:08 PM
 
ftr the B-sides from Parachutes and earlier are fucking mint
@Tiffany I'm not sure I believe that
 
it's wholesome
 
Like I wasn't into queen but I had heard BoRap by the time I was like 5
that's why I don't buy it
 
he admits that he's actually heard bits and pieces of the song, but always changed it
 
I think it's too ubiquitous for an adult to be able to make that video
 
11:10 PM
so this is the first time he's listened to it from beginning to end
when I was a kid, I used to be afraid of the music video, I think my sister made a joke about the heads being decapitated and me being me, took it literally, and it freaked me out, I thought decapitated heads were singing
 
I mean I love Queen and Bo-Rap is great and all, but I can think of soo many better examples of "shit you should listen to the end of"
 
shrug, video is wholesome
 
The Wholesomeness Is A Lie
^ that will be Whole Foods tag line in like 20 years
 
you're the one choosing to be grumpy :P
though, if I see that fucking roach again, I will be grumpy
 
no, I'm the one living in a world that forces me into this disposition
it's literally everyone else's fault
 
11:15 PM
@DaveRandom just stop giving fucks
 
I am, as previously discussed, the embodiment of perfection
 
@DaveRandom 🙄
 
@Tiffany I have an infinite supply of freeware fucks, it's just that you can no longer buy a full license
giving a fuck is now EOL
 
@DaveRandom is that like AOL CDs?
except with free fucks
"500 free hours fucks!"
 
@Tiffany kind of, only the total opposite, since there are a seemingly infinite number of AOL CDs and (as discussed) a highly limited fuck supply
 
11:18 PM
but you said you had an infinite supply of freeware fucks
 
yeh but the become finite when cast them to something useful
Aug 26 '16 at 9:49, by DaveRandom
@PeeHaa $that = (bool)$hit;
as soon as I made it usable it became finite, which is why that post doesn't have ∞ stars
 
Exit in auto-prepended file does not abort PHP execution ・ *General Issues ・ #79948
 
> Hiding magic within hidden magic produces unexpected results
 
do I suggest using version control to a graphic artist on twitter...
 
11:37 PM
@MarkR genuinely do not understand how things like this exist in the consciousness of people who do not also just bean a load of pills
s/do not understand/envy/
also, as banging as that is, I'm going to go ahead and say Sonic 2 on the Megadrive
 
I love how some producers can just weave half a dozen different distinct layers in and you can focus on each one
This was used as the background track to a C&C3 tourny that got streamed so I hunted it down
 
when it comes to stuff like that I basically understand soulwax/2manydjs and that's about it
 
@MarkR were you ever familiar with these guys? open.spotify.com/track/…
 
Clicked through a few seconds but none sound familiar.
 
11:47 PM
shame, they are ace and from sheffield
I can't type
 
I really need to get a life at some point and drag myself to the Tomorrowland event, the music there sounds awesome.
 
give it 20 years or so, might be legal again :-/
 

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