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12:00 AM
Sara gets to pick if it's evens
Sara gets to pick if it's evens
 
12:31 AM
:O
yay Sara!
 
 
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3:10 AM
@bwoebi The whitespace in phpdbg tests -- how important is that? As far as I can tell, I'm somehow breaking the whitespace diff:
012+ [L9       0x7f9747a85060 CATCH<17>               "Exception"                               $e                   /usr/local/src/php/sapi/phpdbg/tests/stepping_001.php]
012- [L9 %s CATCH<%d>                "Exception"                               $e                   %s]
 
3:39 AM
 
 
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cmb
6:32 AM
Happy Birthday!
 
6:51 AM
happy birthday @Tiffany
 
7:23 AM
morns
Happy Birthday @Tiffany!
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7:48 AM
@LeviMorrison the most importantant thing is that the oplog output is sort of aligned
 
Wes
happy birthday @Tiffany \o/
 
@Tiffany Ah nice! Happy birthday :)
 
8:14 AM
PHP maintainers, we have the mother of all commit log messages in 5dafd7b4fe
Also in aaedcb116c
Any way to fix that? It makes looking at the git commit log a real pain.
 
@AlexD that looks like a client-fail, it includes the comment plus the actual diff. I'm pretty sure that'd require a force push meaning all clones will become out of sync
 
@Sjon That's what I was afraid of
But if the force push is not done now, it will become harder to fix later...
 
8:34 AM
@cmb I want to fix github.com/php/web-php/pull/321#issuecomment-621647915 but cannot reproduce the issue locally as the entry is not rendered. I checkout the repo and then do php -S localhost:8080 -t .. http://localhost:8080/conferences works but does not show the entry for our conference. What am I missing?
Ah, I would somehow need to update include/pregen-confs.inc but do not know how.
 
yo phomies
happy bday @Tiffany ...
 
Found it.
 
cmb
@SebastianBergmann then you're one step ahead of me :)
 
8:51 AM
@cmb One needs to download include/pregen-confs.inc etc. as described here
 
cmb
Ah, thanks! Hadn't though that one can just download these files.
 
@SebastianBergmann You can only black/whitelist whole namespaces with xdebug_set_filter, so you can not do just "spl_autoload_call" — in any case, the filtering wouldn't remove anything called from there anyway.
 
9:07 AM
@Derick Okay, thanks. I'll write a filter for the machine-readable format then. Cheers!
 
I wouldn't mind bundling these in contrib/
 
@JoeWatkins ah you're still alive :-D
 
@Derick I'll keep that in mind. Not sure how generic I would want this to become.
 
OK :-)
 
9:22 AM
@AlexD If I were you I'd shoot an email to internals to see if anyone wants to fix php-src
 
Hm, I wonder if there's a way to treat --enable and --with in autoconf interchangeably
 
@NikiC there is supposed to be a difference: autotools.io/autoconf/arguments.html
but I agree it is pretty theoretical
 
@Sjon It's a hair thin difference when half your features depend on external libraries
We broke lots of things in 7.4 trying to follow the rule, but I don't think that made anything better
 
9:44 AM
@NikiC I've just come across it today again, and was wondering about the same. I really hate to guess which to use..
 
10:09 AM
@Sjon Ok. Is that a mailing list?
 
cmb
11:04 AM
@AlexD yes, the first one at php.net/mailing-lists.php#internals
 
@cmb Thank you
 
11:28 AM
Morning all
 
o/
 
How do I subscribe to a bug on bugs.php.net?
 
you... don't?
Or rather, I don't think you can
 
Nope not possible as of yet
 
Oh-kay. Why did I even ask? :-/
 
11:31 AM
:)
 
hah
sows
 
If I comment on a bug do I then get notifications on further updates?
 
cmb
@SebastianBergmann nope; only assignee gets mail
and of course, the reporter
 
Got it: no way to get updates on bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=79519.
 
@Tiffany happy birthday :D
 
11:52 AM
Morning, thanks guys :)
 
12:13 PM
@SebastianBergmann there is a subscribe button under "Add comment"
 
cmb
oh, indeed!
 
@AlexD fwiw I doubt we will rewrite history
 
@NikiC OK
:( Understood
 
There have been a few mishaps in the past, mostly around people committing 5 MB test cases. Those are still there...
 
12:47 PM
@Sjon Thanks. Claims that my "sebastian@php.net" email is not valid :-(
 
@SebastianBergmann retry after logging in?
 
@SebastianBergmann @php.net is only allowed after logging in, see github.com/php/web-bugs/blob/…
 
Wes
1:56 PM
@StatikStasis are you around?
 
2:13 PM
mornins
 
2:32 PM
Finally hitting 1 year at my company. It's insane to think about how much I've learned in just the past year
Quite a lot more than I did in the 1 year I worked at the company before this
 
Sounds like it was a good move, then.
I hit 4 years tomorrow.
 
Congrats!
 
My record is a little over 7
 
I started on the 30th because if I had started on the 1st I would've had to wait a whole extra month before getting benefits
7 is a lot. I don't think I've kept up with anything for 7 years
 
I bet you're in the US then?
 
2:40 PM
Yeah
I haven't even been an adult for 7 years lol
 
now you're just being mean ;-)
 
@Alesana Same here
Longest I managed to be adult is like an hour
 
now there you overachiever calm down
 
My previous job was 10.5 years.
 
At the end of the day aren't we all just pretending to be an adult anyways?
 
2:44 PM
Define "adult" before making such statements.
 
I'm at the beginning of my career so right now I think it makes sense to switch jobs every 2-3 years for right now
 
adult: when your bed is not against a wall
 
Then when I start getting to my peak I'll start looking for a really good job that I can keep for 10+ years
@FélixGagnon-Grenier When you're a kid, you put your bed in the corner so you have more room to play. When you're an adult, you put your bed in the middle of the room so you have more room to play.
 
3:06 PM
my bed's in a corner, but my bedroom isn't very big to begin with
I upgraded to a full size bed a couple years ago, that's as close to "adult" as I get regarding beds
 
@bwoebi Is this "sort of aligned" enough?
 
 
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5:18 PM
@LeviMorrison well, it's just output for display, so yes
 
Perfect, thank you.
I wasn't sure if the spaces corresponded to actual behavior or not.
 
5:30 PM
not related to PHP, but I have to share this, my cats being the cutest I've ever seen them...
user image
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6:28 PM
awe!
 
user11867329
Can anybody elaborate on this?
 
user11867329
Error 454 is shown in the email logs and bounce message to users, usually when they send, forward or receive mails in Postfix mail servers. There are 2 main causes for this error.

If the mail is attempted to send to an external mail server without proper authentication, the sending mail server will reject the mail with the error “454 4.7.1 Relay access denied”.
This error message is also seen due to improper configuration settings of Postfix, such as relaying and recipient settings.
 
That's already quite elaborate.
 
user11867329
7:12 PM
Well
 
user11867329
I got this when trying to send to a random gmail
 
user11867329
454 4.7.1 <gary@gmail.com>: Relay access denied;
 
user11867329
Works internally but when I try to send out, doesn't work
 
Wes
@StatikStasis no idea why stream quality is so low youtube.com/watch?v=aqWVDI_o35U&t=595s :(
 
I don't see your face or hear you :(
Also where is the timer? :)
 
user11867329
7:27 PM
More specifically:

NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from localhost[127.0.0.1]: 454 4.7.1
 
Wes
@PeeHaa timer is the video :P
 
 
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8:40 PM
@Wes Hey man! Let me go check it out. One sec...
@Wes I'm watching in 720p. It looks pretty good. Are you using Streamlabs? What are your settings?
@Wes And where is your purty face? =P @PeeHaa
@Wes I subbed! Make sure to sub back!
 
@StatikStasis I have more of a radio face than a video face
3
 
9:13 PM
LOL!
I've seen your pic @PeeHaa - remember? You said you were the most handsome of the PHP people in that photo. =P
@PeeHaa I was telling Wes that- just copying you because you mentioned you could not see his face.
 
That bar just wasn;t very high :P
 
lol
A burn to a handful of people in one line- impressive!
 
9:41 PM
@Derick have you watched Green Wing?
 
Wes
9:55 PM
@StatikStasis it's horrible quality :(
gta streams are like that though, too much stuff going on on screen... still... pretty disappointing
 
 
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11:05 PM
From the engine perspective, when a call like parent::method() is made, how do I know from the execute data that it's supposed to use parent scope instead of object scope? What I'm really after is, if I bound a closure to parent, how would I get out the parent's name instead of the object's name?
I guess I bind it to the execute_data->func->common.scope instead of zend_get_called_scope()?
 
@Tiffany A long while ago, yes.
 
user11867329
11:21 PM
Who's using Sendgrid?
 
11:51 PM
@Wes It doesn't look that bad to me. Which encoder are you using?
 
@Derick it's bizarre seeing Jackie and Jim in different roles, though I remember Jim as Brian from Spaced before Green Wing ...
 

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