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21:00
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because rum kills rum flavor @tereško (dafuq)
@GordonM Far as wikipedia explains it, 415 Unsupported media type seems the best fit.
@orourkek , you are taking a dump .. should it be convenient nor pretty ?
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@cHao The relevant question is here if you're interested:
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A: Appropriate HTTP status code for request specifying invalid Content-Encoding header?

GordonMThey should make that the final question on Who Wants To Be a Millionaire! Well the browser made a request that the server cannot service because the information the client provided is in a format that cannot be handled by the server. However, this isn't the server's fault for not supporting t...

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Now I'm leaning back towards 415 Unsupported Media Type given the description of 415 in the spec:
user895378
21:10
> The server is refusing to service the request because the entity of the request is in a format not supported by the requested resource for the requested method.
in Lounge<C++>, 9 mins ago, by webarto
Lounge<C++> greatest debate
see, we are not that different (LOL)
21:25
@rdlowrey I rejected 415 initially because its name suggested it was for dealing with Content-type not being compatible. If the actual spec doesn't explicitly refer to just that header then maybe you're right
> Note: HTTP/1.1 servers are allowed to return responses which are not acceptable according to the accept headers sent in the request. In some cases, this may even be preferable to sending a 406 response. User agents are encouraged to inspect the headers of an incoming response to determine if it is acceptable.
@rdlowrey According to spec you can send them a response they didn't say they could accept. It might even be preferable.
Hello, anyone know how to exit out of git rebase -i?
CTRL + C :P
@LeviMorrison Yeah, I did point that out in my answer :)
@GordonM Didn't bother reading it. :) I try to familiarize myself with the HTTP spec as much as possible.
21:44
btw , i hope you guys know why c++ has the double-plus
Newspeak?
22:13
hey anyone know if a Muse + Dreamweaver work flow would work out
I have a problem getting ideas from my head to HTML + CSS but no real problem programing so i figure make templates in muse and then make them work in dream weaver
if you are using DW for development .. well .. there is not workflow
I don't get why people hate on DW for dev
because it is for noobs
> Design and publish HTML websites without writing code. -- Muse
22:19
I'll admit it has allot of noobish perks, but on that same note, why not have the noobish perks. I've yet to actually have a need for VI and the like
@ert3 , because it is FrontPage Pro , which costs ~ 500$
or rather am not aware of what im doing the hard way
FrontPage != dreamweaver
maybe muse
highlights syntax, big easy to read code and shortcuts in CSS, whats not to like
other than the price tag but i doubt even adobe thinks most psople actually pay for their products
no one mentioned VI, you can use Notepad++, or some IDE (each one has HTML/CSS support for autocomplete etc), and what else is better for "preview" then a browser...
@ert3 , if that's what you honestly think, then i guess i have another name for ignore-list
Sam
Sam
@ert3 try PhpStorm and Netbeans; you'll appreciate them better; Dreamweaver is good, just not a proper tool for a developer
22:21
true, dreamweaver's "design view" is quite shitty compared to just using a browser
ok this is the second time i have heard about PhpStorm
im googling that
but I'm not against Dreamweaver, I just don't think it is good step (I used it once, long time ago)
anyone know of a good image manipulation class? i'd write my own but i know there are some better ones out there
@AndyPerlitch what manipulations do you need?
crop and scale mainly
others would be nice, but not really immediately necessary for me atim
PHPstorm is mac compatible, well im trying it for 30 days lets see if im still an adobe fanboy by then
22:23
atm*
Sam
Sam
you'll enjoy it more than DW.........at least, I did
@webarto ah didnt think to check in kohana
Sam
Sam
a few annoying issues with it is that it autosave your files
22:25
I don't think it's coupled with anything except Exception (this sounded weird), which is one string replace fix :)
bleh autosave, maybe i can control that since im used to SVN, IE autosave saves in fork, real save goes to trunk
@AndyPerlitch if you have Imagemagick do tell
Sam
Sam
once I find a way to disable that feature, I'm disabling it; I like saving my files manually; less errors that way
@webarto i do not
@AndyPerlitch can make your life easier, or hell :)
22:32
@webarto im lookin at the kohana class, and i cant find the class that actually implements all these abstract methods
modules/image/classes/kohana/image
do you want me to send you file?
(doh, github)
I have 3 commits in my local git repository, but I want to only push the most recent one. How do I do this? I'm fine with deleting the 2 previous commits. Thanks!
Sam
Sam
@AndyPerlitch, can you develop an application without the framework?
@Sam yes i am not using a framework, or rather, i guess im developing my own framework
Sam
Sam
22:36
oh ok......I thought u were using Kohana
@Sam why couldn't you? Frameworks were "invented" few years ago, and they are pretty much in "beta" now...
Sam
Sam
@webarto I don't understand your question
5 mins ago, by Sam
@AndyPerlitch, can you develop an application without the framework?
i think he was asking if I could specifically
not if "one" could
Sam
Sam
yeah? what about it? I was asking if he could do it without a framework
22:41
just interested in difference :) it's PHP in the end...
ok, nvm
Sam
Sam
many ppl couldn't
i did explore kohana for a while
as per @tereško's suggestion
but found that there were too many statics
as per @ircmaxell and others' observations
well .. i recommended to take a look at it , but you might also remember that i said that i do not use it anymore
Sam
Sam
I have a friend who uses WordPress and the other popular PHP frameworks to develop sites; I thought the guy was a programmer, until I realize he couldn't even edit html tags....lol
@tereško you are absolutely right
22:43
it's flawed but usable
it has a lot of f*ups but does the job... it will be better someday...
whats up with this image class using Image_GD statically a lot?
@Sam erm WP is not a framework :)
as long as we're on the subject of statics...
Sam
Sam
@webarto I know......there's another popular PHP framework out there......the name just eluded me
22:45
zend? fuel? cake?
wordpress ... is .. not ... a framework
yii? lavarel? :P
and i suspect that he means "codeigniter"
Sam
Sam
Drupal......that was the name
I was looking for
lol
it's even worse then i thought
22:46
drupal ... is ... not ... a ... framework
@webarto im sorta ready to give up on this image class in kohana already... anyone else have a good standalone image manip class in php they know of? thoughts teresko?
well, they think it is
Sam
Sam
lol.....I have no other name for it; the guy just drag and drop stuff
@AndyPerlitch ah sorry I understood you want to write your own, so I guess it was easier to C/P the good parts... for standalone, :donotknow:
Sam
Sam
in drupal, and boom......he's a web developer
22:49
Drupal, truely only a pro could master it
joke?
actually that gives me an idea
@AndyPerlitch , just get some random image manipulation class online , fix it and then use it
Derpal, based on Drupal but pre packed with lots of anon handling plugins, so you get all the convienence of Drupal with the basics for allowing a site to have an anon comunity
@tereško i know you have one. you're just holdin out on me. you bastard. :-P
22:52
i have several , each buried in a different ancient project
aight screw it im writing my own. i always end up doing this with php stuff. the only code i didnt write that i keep using is jquery, a few jquery plugins, and some snippets from comments in the php manual...
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23:09
@LeviMorrison but you can't determine what response you want to send because you can't decode the message the client sent to the server in the first place ... so you can't create or modify the resource
@rdlowrey But you can, to some extent, determine which resource they wanted, even if you don't know all the details.
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@LeviMorrison but they aren't requesting a resource in the first place, they're making a post/put request to modify or create a resource.
@rdlowrey I may have misunderstood your original question then.

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