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20:02
btw, regarding books, @ircmaxell, have you tried the "Deathstalker" series? (it's one of those that go in the brain-candy shelf as opposed to serious-sci-fi)
@JonClements since when you have become a regular in this room :D ?
@tereško I put a dent in Clean Code, but I've honestly been reading my chemistry textbook more.
@tereško what? why?
@tereško I'm not... this just isn't the tab I wanted to open :p
@Allenph you probably should have picked up Clean Architecture instead
I asked a bajillion times which book I should start with and that was what I got recommended.
20:12
it's probably when I was banned
you should be able to find it here, @Allenph, libgen.pw
btw, @JonClements, what is the general policy on "warez links" in the chat?
I can't read on a screen.
Wes
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@JonClements y u hate us
@Fabor :P
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you can stay, y'know :B
@JonClements That's insulting :/
@Allenph you need to gain access to the discord room
we are not JS room, which has basically fled to discord en mas, but you should have access to the "secondary channel"
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@tereško y u want to get hurt
@Wes it was actually a honest question, since the link is tied to the "dark web" part of the academic materials
@Fabor I really thought, that that would cover it, because he does the same thing almost, himself, and he was successfully able to ssh into the private server.
@Wes, besides, by just using a general link, I am not braking DMCA (or any other related law)
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20:27
okay :B
just remember that with the next one they throw away the key :B
just add the discord app as a pinned tab, @Wes :P
and you should also be idling in FreeNode
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Wes
do we have a channel or something? i don't use discord
(you are actually already in the room, just not online)
I joined too
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20:41
@tereško are you using youtube music?
suggest new music works like a charm
@Wes not for me
:(
Wes
Wes
i am referring to the radio feature
where you enter a keyword and it creates an infinite playlist matching that keyword
@Wes ok, here are three artists I have been listening to:
- Hayko Cepkin (turkish, alternative)
- Shireen (wicca)
- Toundra (postrock)
you can't find them by just running a randomizer
@tereško nope, haven't
@ircmaxell IIRC, you recommended me "Wizard's First Rule", so you might like it
it's just in a "future fiction" setting
... I really can't call it sci-fi
20:50
I don't think I reocmmended that
I am pretty sure it was you ... just 4 years ago (or so)
@tereško That was an awesome book. Read that in high school. Almost started it again a few weeks ago.
I got the Stone Tears book but never got into it.
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@tereško pentagram, hayko cepkin, ceylan ertem, eypio
recognize these?
20:53
only one of them
:D
I remember when Richard and Kahlan got together and I looked around the class because I was wondering if they knew this book was in the library. =D
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and?
@StatikStasis oh yeah, it wan't exactly pg-13 book
20:55
I was so engrossed in that book.
it was fun
@tereško freenode... how do you join rooms? Do you join rooms.
you need to register an account
an the you write /join ##php
I am actually not sure how to explain IRC to anyone under 25
help
I'm 36!
I know IRC. Doing it now.
ಠ▃ಠ
I "grew up" in IRC
at least my internet persona did
21:03
I remember doing IRC and newsgroups on my webtv plus when I was 14 years old... memories.
bob
bob
well I'm at a dead end. I can connect to mysql in terminal, but my laravel project is denied. Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost'I can migrate the tables. but as soon as I try to login or register on the localhost site, it gives me the above error. anyone know what the problem could be?
@mega6382 I can SSH in. Issue is I want to get a response via HTTP from Webserver through NAT instance.
@tereško Laravel problem. You love that stuff don't you? =p
21:24
@FlorianMargaine can you explain why you believe this? I'm curious what your reasoning is. Is there a better tool that you would recommend over a debugger?
Heading home. Later.
@tereško What do you use for a SASL client for freenode?
@Fabor Try using the webserver's public ip instead of nat instance's public ip
@StatikStasis ok a month something later... I made something :P
@PeeHaa what did you make?
@StatikStasis One progressiveish track and another dark weird thing
Still very WIP, but it's a start
21:39
Link?
> 47.42MB of 68.82MB uploaded
wav files and turkish internet don't go well together :P
waits
@PeeHaa has @Ekin heard it? If so did she like or roll her eyes? That's how I can tell if my wife likes something.
heheheh
The progressive one she didn't hear yet
The dark weird one I rolled my own eyes because it's just weird
:P
@StatikStasis I don't. I use irssi in a tmux session on a VPS, that runs FreeBSD, to which I connect using ed25519 key
Also I need monitors to make it sound not sucky
So listener beware
21:43
I presume the security is marginal, but good-enough, since am not actually trading any important materials
Ever listen to Nu Skool breaks?
Sometimes. Not that much
I have a friend whos label does stuff like that iirc
Mostly dnb, but he went broader
DnB is nice. A lot of Nu Skool is dark.
you are wrong
:P
This isn't Nu Skool but just a darker break but look up Infiniti Science Fiction. Good track.
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what i just did: i wrote the tests, then tuned +1 and -1 >= > <= < until it worked without actually understand how. DEEP LEARNING MY ASS
Both need actual finishing and making it proper, but I started producing again so that is something
@Wes That is deep learning:P
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this is amazing lol
kinda :B
Can you dodge bullets matrix style yet?
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21:48
lemme try
nope. going to hospital brb
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:D
just need to write more tests just to be sure
lol
@PeeHaa NICE DUDE!!!!! Aansteker sounds like something Paul Oakenfold would definitely play!
At daughter's daycare- have to run in. What did you create it in?
ableton
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21:50
it's simple tests, mostly doing copypasta
i am sure i didn't cover at least 1 case
i am publishing on github soon
supercrappacode
@StatikStasis I have more private random crap unfinished stuff if you want later :P
@mega6382 Have done. I only get a response from inside the NAT instance
Wes
Wes
i was looking at ableton just today. how does it compare to fruity loops?
fisher price and actual good stuff
But at the end of the day it's all just a tool and many people who actually know how to make music are doing just fine in fruity loops
I used fruity loops for a while too
Wes
Wes
is ableton intro good? the 80€ one
21:56
@Wes What?
Never heard of it
I always torrent my music production stuff
wat
no
They limit the number of tracks :P
loldat business model
Just torrent it @Wes
Wes
Wes
what if i get a cheap license on ebay, like ableton live 8?
i tried but looks like it's a bitch to crack... at least the 10
Never got a license from ebay
@Wes I have a cracked 10
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ok, i'll try then
21:58
I would zip and send it to you, but turkish internet
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btw what bittorrent search you guys use these days? all the stuff i used either sucks now or it's dead
@PeeHaa I have that too. That's what I do my live sets in. Use Logic Pro too. Driving home. And yes to the "other stuff" you have.
@PeeHaa I paid $700 USD for mine! Had cracked stuff all my life and finally wanted a legit copy.
The thing with msuci production stuff @Wes is that you are going to need ableton (or some other daw) and some nice plugins which costs a sweet amount of monies too
Have Reason 7 too but I don't really use. Paid for that too. =/
reason
That was awesome before I knew any better
That analogue synth was so good
Also ts303
Or was that rebirth?
22:01
ok, a bit of an off-topic: is the USA media trying to do whatever they can to produce the maximum damage in the senate elections?
the are making a Trump into the "underdog"
... then again, most likely twitter and facebook already gifted the win
@PeeHaa I just liked the physical layout of connecting devices. Was a neat concept.
All my friends had went to Logic Pro. Just finally broke down and got a Mac in Feb and still haven't messed with Logic much, Only Ableton.
@tereško The medis is awful here.
@tereško Why? What do I need to search for in Discord?
@StatikStasis Exactly:P
22:33
Neat @PeeHaa
Listening to tracks
I'm kinda reminded of an artist, trying to remember the name... might have it in Spotify somewhere
@PeeHaa are you German?
@tereško He is dutch, from Netherlands
his music taste is German
:P
22:39
most definitely, its @Gordon's influence on him :P
poor, damaged soul
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Wes
what a pita to configure scrutinizer
@Gordon's music choice is so crazy, I don't know how he listens to that
With his ears I think
@Wes it usually takes at least 3 commits, in my experience
22:42
@PeeHaa makes me think of m.soundcloud.com/gavinraynarussom/…
I think the oddest I have in my "favorites" list is
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cc @PeeHaa now you can look at it :B
and that's basically the only song from that band/genre
22:46
@Wes //[][][][][][][] why?
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Wes
but mostly because i want to make @PeeHaa angry
hmmm ... no
I think it's actually this piece:
@Wes wouldn't it be better to make new classes? :S
@Wes you should use
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yeah that's important :B
@Tiffany i don't care it's poo anyway
but i would do that normally
22:51
/**
 * @test
 */
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@fap
@Fabor - hey dude how's things?
instead of the test_ prefix, @Wes
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Wes
why
22:53
beause the name of the test-method should describe the expected behavior
Wes
Wes
in this case it's not that i wrote the most polished tests anyway
i don't even know if i need the thing
that's a common problem
some people end up with methods, that basically should be called test_check_1(), test_check_2(), test_check_3() etc.
you should not write a test to aim for some magical coverage goal
instead your test should describe a specific scenario
Wes
Wes
you are being patronizing again
i said i didn't write polished tests
consider that stuff smoke tests
i need to rewrite many methods in case anyway, and then the tests
@Wes smoke tests are what you write for a legacy codebase
their goal is: "did my refactoring blow something up"
and in that case test_check_1() is a perfectly acceptable test method name
Wes
Wes
smoke tests test the minimal functionality
not regressions
anyway, the code is open to modify. feel free to PR :B
23:06
then you need a better naming :D
also, it looks like most of those test could be consolidated in a single provider
@PeeHaa I'm sure you know Paul Oakenfold's Transport album. Such a great album. I could hear that track being in that list.
@Wes also, it not my "patronizing voice" - I was trying to bang my teamlead's head against the desk about his exact issue about 8 hours ago
... it's the "frustrated/disappointed voice"
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Wes
except i agree with you
but in this case i wrote the tests as quick as possible because i didn't know what i was doing and i didn't care regardless
if i end up using the thing i will refactor a couple of methods and write more polished tests
23:21
@tereško :P
@Wes Need to check tomorrow when I have full control of laptop again
@StatikStasis yeah
@PeeHaa :P
Could be worse
:)
you could be Russian
da
dobre
@StatikStasis soundcloud.com/user-93315143/mojito-13/s-6M3Z8 | soundcloud.com/user-93315143/home-12-wip/s-XXDdE | soundcloud.com/user-93315143/halphp15/s-8sYM1 | soundcloud.com/user-93315143/9-months-24/s-GNSvK random different shit from the last year on my new account. All crap, unfinished, unmastered and weird
heh ... this thing came up in my playlist :D youtube.com/watch?v=xVvbIoSSTOM
23:25
@tereško lol.scroll scroll scroll scroll
That's it? :P
It's not even video :D
yup ... but on the upside, it is a song about dying (both accepting it and fighting it)
Ah sounds was off
23:42
@NikiC ftr that apcu patch is required in the case that you are doing something like this, those options end up getting passed to the child php binary and it throws up because of unknown options. The bc submodule update fixes test failures that you hit if you git clone --recursive. I don't think there's really any issue with diverging from the original test harness, it's already been modified beyond recognition.
and I could really do with it being merged and appearing in a tagged release asap, because I can't build a 7.3 image without it :-P
also @JoeWatkins if you wouldn't mind awfully tagging a release on github.com/krakjoe/apcu-bc that would be tits
Wes
Wes
such art "let's go get stoned"

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