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14:03
ah yeah, they are noice
wat
which headers?
shit today's temperature is insane lol. 42° now
Anonymous
celcius?
there is no other
14:05
^
also, celsius
42 aka FTS weather
Anonymous
42 celsius is crazy
Anonymous
i'd probably cry
where I'm from 42deg is common in summers
D:
it was like that last year here
about the hottest it's been so far is 35
14:09
typical british summers day here ... so below twenty degrees, windy as fuck, and just about to rain, probably ...
@JoeWatkins we had about the same weather here for past 2 months
14:10
@Fabor There are many ;)
lol. it's all i remember from my visit to london @JoeWatkins been there two weeks in june. it rained all the fucking time. endless rain... :B
@Jimbo I made a new PR
34 here every day now
@Tiffany :O
@JoeWatkins I do miss it a little tbh :P
we have 24 , with something like 90% humidity ... but, if I described myself as "wet and agitated", people might misunderstand
14:11
... I didn't fix my original PR, I just deleted and started over. I'll have to figure out rebasing at some point.
got double windows installed when i moved here because winter, but now i'm using them more for the hot days :B also, no air conditioning (i don't waste energy unless i'm dying, also instant headache)
@Tiffany Dammit! You were supposed to figure that out :P
on the other hand, I think I can remember how to make PRs
spent a couple hours bonking my head over it trying to figure out why my branch wasn't showing up in the PR, lol
right now i'm pretty close to dying. got a shower like an half an hour ago and i'm dying already
14:12
and instead of creating a new file, .vagrantplugins, I just pasted the code over top of your plugin code. It works fine that way.
@WesStark if you are at home, you can just work naked ... or in a towel
Yeah, I seldom wear many clothes while I work.
lol
to be fair, if it was hotter here, I probably would do the same
Gotta cover the webcam though, just in case.
I'm pretty certain all of my best work is done while wearing only pants ...
14:14
nsa
it's part of being in the zone I think ...
don't have a builtin webcam, and the webcam I do have is unplugged
@tereško also skin alone is too hot. i can't remove that :B
only problem is I have a leather chair, skin sticking to leather isn't fun
well, technically you can
14:15
^ that
if you're removing your skin, you have bigger problems than being too hot
tho, the events that might precede would not be so desirable...
@Tiffany put down a towel regardless
@Tiffany same
@WesStark that's what sweating is for
all you need is a little breeze to help the evaporation
14:16
sweating in high humidity is balls
@Tiffany no, having a coworker, who runs a humidifier (in summer) is balls
I run a humidifier in the winter
latent heat of vaporization ftw!
it's unreasonable in summer, suggest you start a fire on their desk if they don't turn it off ...
hahaha
14:18
(because you're cold)
my home town,in summer avg temp goes to 52 cel
your home town is fire?
@tereško don't you have like cool mist humidifiers?
@PaulCrovella just near desert :)
why would that help in any way?
14:19
what is the melting point of a human ?
I mean, regardless, humidity in the summer sucks ass, but cooler air would be less of a bitch than warm air
@Linus 45deg Celsius here
@JoeWatkins 42°
it's 26C here, which is unusual for us
@Tiffany 100% humidity is 100% humidity
normally would be like 35-40C with 90% humidity
@WesStark man up
@JoeWatkins For the solid bits, sadly, it's higher than the flash point, but, for most of a human, it's 1 degree C (or 0.01 or whatever you like)
@SheikYerbouti where?
@WesStark instant close
I already have trouble with nightmares, I don't need more fuel
14:21
@WesStark i liked it ...
@Dereleased so my hopes of melting a human are not realistic ...
@Linus I'm afraid I can't tell you that
guys, do you know what movie is that
@JoeWatkins Yes and no; look at the bright side, humans are already mostly melted for you!
Total Recall is a 1990 American science-fiction action film directed by Paul Verhoeven, starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, Rachel Ticotin, Sharon Stone, Ronny Cox, and Michael Ironside. The film is loosely based on the Philip K. Dick short story "We Can Remember It for You Wholesale". It tells the story of a construction worker who is having troubling dreams about Mars and a mysterious woman there. It was written by Ronald Shusett, Dan O'Bannon, Jon Povill, and Gary Goldman, and won a Special Achievement Academy Award for its visual effects. The original score composed by Jerry Goldsmith won the BMI...
14:22
what happens to you at 52 degrees if your skin is uncovered ?
is that the scene where his eyes pop out and burst?
I mean, is that the kind of temperature that would kill you within hours if you didn't have water ?
@JoeWatkins you start leaking
@JayIsTooCommon was still in a test tube in 1990
@WesStark I thought that was the movie, but I couldn't remember the name. Tip of my tongue...
14:24
@JoeWatkins your muscles' proteins (actin and myosin) would probably contract with defections, and other enzymes would fail to work
that sounds bad ... does death follow ?
@JoeWatkins my skin color just faded :P
I wonder how someone lives in a place that ordinarily, wants to kill you ?
People survive 52C all the time. See: Middle East; Arizona
> without your skin
oh, the fact I said, was about a person without skin
14:25
they are also used to it @Dereleased, like, genetically
it gives real pain when you are riding bike ...
a person might just manage to survive at 52C
what the fuck, who are these people that have no skin ?
@WesStark Nobody from Arizona is genetically used to anything
no helmet
14:26
@JoeWatkins next level anti racists
@Dereleased they're genetically used to air conditioning
@PaulCrovella I actually like visiting AZ, because I find their heat more tolerable than my owns state's (Florida)
yeah, florida is balls
your humidity makes life awful
Dry heat, it's just like hanging out in a toaster. Not so bad. Where I'm from, ugh... the adjectives used to describe how you feel on a summer day are only positive when applied to a cinnamon bun
@PaulCrovella yes, my humidity! /me cackles
hey, your state your humidity
14:29
@Tiffany they've made a reboot, with colin farrell. i avoided watching it, on purpose
must be shit as anything done past 2000 :B
trying to walk out of a building in florida in the summer is like running into a wall of uncomfortable soup
I can't think of anything off the top of my head right now, but there have been some decent remakes
@WesStark hah, the dark knight
@PaulCrovella Imagine being raised in that soup. Visit AZ or CO for a while, and you start to feel like you can't breathe, because there's too little water in the air
@WesStark Dredd was good
I might have to rewatch that actually
14:31
yeah, that was ok
@Dereleased your gills dry right up
They surely do
robocop was also ok but the original movies are impossible to match
whoops, I misread Wes.
@tereško you watch anime or read manga, right?
14:34
i do as well
Blame! is an interesting sci-fi anime
i liked the original dredd. it's cafone
like most 80s action sci-fi movies, original Dredd was campy but fun
I like the gritty plot they gave the newer Dredd
If an applicant sends me code samples that clearly implement CakePHP, do I still need to interview them?
14:36
another great fiction was steins;gate
also, you might like Blame! @WesStark
@Tiffany japanese stuff?
@Dereleased I don't know much about CakePHP but does the job description care?
@WesStark yes
@WesStark yes, but it's a deeply rooted sci-fi
btw, karl urban is one of the few "young" actors that reminds me of the '80/'90
Anonymous
@WesStark nah, was born in 1996, old man.
if you like campy 80s
@Tiffany its hopeless, he always visualizes japanese stuff as tentacles
karl urban doing a demolition man reboot. just take my money
14:39
@Dereleased is morbid curiosity not enough to score an interview?
I want a Dredd 2
@JayIsTooCommon i said in a test tube.
@Tiffany Yaaasssss, kween!
I wish I could paste this synopsis to just Wes
@PaulCrovella Honestly, the sample isn't laugh-worthy by any stretch... but it was sent unsolicited when we had already agreed to an interview. And tbh, with the way our current framework is implemented, it's not like this is that much worse. I want to replace it, but that's not my prerogative, or even my section of our product
I love that the code sample was sent to me as a PDF -- I could still copy and paste everything, I'd just get line numbers, and now I have to see it in the candidate's preferred highlighting, instead of my own
14:42
a pdf
ha
does the code sample generate pdfs? if so I'd allow it
@PaulCrovella I am not sure how I'd feel about something like that. If it generated PDFs itself, with no 3rd party lib, I think I'd reject the candidate on sight. Stop solving solved problems!
@Tiffany but i'm ok with hollywood movies based on japanese stories :B
@PaulCrovella some sort of masochistic quine?
14:46
@Dereleased I give marks for cute presentation
@WesStark Ghost in the Shell?
didn't watch that yet
seen edge of tomorrow? that is based on an anime
FWIW, this code, now that I've gone through it a couple times, is pretty good. We could judge them for framework choice, but I can read it and tell exactly what it does, it's neither over, nor under, complicated, and it uses a good variety of features without being cute or clever (clever here defined as a bad thing)
@WesStark Based on a Manga, I read the manga, loved it, and then the movie came out like 3 weeks later. Just good timing for me!
yeah, manga, anime. same thing :B
NOT ITS NOT
14:48
All You Need Is Kill (Japanese: オール・ユー・ニード・イズ・キル, Hepburn: Ōru Yū Nīdo Izu Kiru) is a Japanese military science fiction light novel by Hiroshi Sakurazaka with illustrations by Yoshitoshi ABe. The novel was Sakurazaka's breakthrough science-fiction novel, earning wide praise from fellow novelists including Yasutaka Tsutsui and Chōhei Kanbayashi and was entered in contention for the Seiun Awards. The book was published in Japanese by Shueisha under their Super Dash Bunko imprint in December 2004, and was later released in English by Viz Media under their Haikasoru imprint. All You Need Is Kill follows...
@Dereleased a) that is not a solved problem, existing things make it at best a very slightly less-bad problem b) re-inventing the wheel is the only way you can figure out how the old wheel worked and how it might be improved
that.
i tried to read the manga too. godawful :B
@SheikYerbouti oh are you kaori?
um... yes
14:49
Jul 31 at 14:04, by Gordon
Sheik Yerbouti
Anonymous
@WesStark I know you are but what. am. I.
@DaveRandom The type of person who can solve that problem in a way I might be comfortable with putting in production would probably know well enough how to explain why they re-implemented the wheel in this case.
ftr: the name changer is 4332216. kaori saitama user
And if they did it just to learn how the old wheel was made, well, say that.
@FélixGagnon-Grenier so nice to have him in the ignore list. i bet he's writing about me...
@WesStark don't do this to me ;-;
Anonymous
@WesStark he's being racist now.. man he really dislikes you.
@JayIsTooCommon fu
@WesStark lol the guy in the middle
Anonymous
@WesStark he just called you a prick, said you're bad at design and that your AMP logo sucks.
14:52
@FélixGagnon-Grenier how did you not know that movieeeeeeeee
@Dereleased is "because TCPDF and FPDF are both terrible and pecl/pdf is entirely unmaintained" a good enough reason?
I see @Jay is starting to grow into a reasonnable person
@JayIsTooCommon ok, he's right tbh
although tbh wkhtmltopdf all the things
@FélixGagnon-Grenier imdb.com/title/tt0109686 damn
Anonymous
14:53
@WesStark i'll stick up for you, don't worry.
Anonymous
@SheikYerbouti Stop that! You can't say things like that.
well played
:P
/me adds jay to ignore list
Anonymous
14:55
@WesStark that's the last time I stick up for you.
ignore yourself :P
@WesStark I feel honored ;)
@Tiffany i liked this japanese movie en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oldboy_(2003_film) except that it is not... it's south korean :B
14:58
@JayIsTooCommon don't worry, we all know, he can't live without us
@WesStark lol, based on a manga though
S.Korea make some great rom-coms
they make some great gamers as well
the overwatch pro players from s korea are just nuts
the only rom coms I'd call "great" are Joe vs the Volcano, and So I Married an Ax Murderer
15:08
Composer seems to install my dev dependencies even with --no-dev specified...
@LeviMorrison you need to generate the lock file first iirc
@WesStark I can't
When doing install it keeps trying to download dev dependencies which won't work because I haven't built this version of PHP with ext/curl.
generate it on another machine which has it?
composer has been a really helpful tool for a lot of people it seems but I've always hated it
All sorts of stuff like this.
I can't read.
2
15:15
its ok
looking at code from nine months ago, WHAT WAS I THINKING
<- looking at code from yesterday, WHAT WAS I THINKING
were you on drugs?
15:26
@Tiffany remember this when you look back again in nine months
cause the code I write when I'm on drugs is terrible
(prescribed drugs)
does alcohol count?
I remember being on painkillers and writing code, and realizing it's not making any sense. I come back the next day and had to delete most of it.
how much alcohol?
I just got a resume from my boss from 9 years ago
was he nice?
15:29
@Tiffany ehm, next question? :B
@WesStark hahaha, there's your problem
@WesStark it does, but who's counting
my cat is laying on the top of my recliner like she's hugging it. "I love you ---recliner---
big, cooshy thing"
blah, I'm leaving it
@Tiffany I am more excited about this than just about anything. He may have been the best boss I ever had, he gave me my start at doing this full time when I had a resume that included things like managing gas stations, he's hilarious and was never too proud to learn from anyone
He was not always nice, but he was never mean
15:32
I guess I should've worded as "was he a good boss?" but it sounds like he was
So the way how I set up my VM/shared folder environment doesn't allow require __DIR__ . '/../src/Bootstrap.php'; to work, but require __DIR__ . '/src/Bootstrap.php'; does work. Should I be concerned that it's working like this?
other than altering how I write the code, is there any negative side effect, like is it against convention?
sounds like you are running it inside a jail or chroot
only if your production setup features a different path
@JayIsTooCommon Yes I am.
Anonymous
\o/
Ouch; just got bit by this not being in 7.1.7: github.com/php/php-src/pull/2632
Anonymous
15:38
@kelunik and where have you been!?
as far as I know, I set up the shared folder in Virtualbox exactly the same how I did it at work. I'm more or less baffled that it's behaving this way instead of how I expected it to. How I set up each VM should be exactly the same.
@JayIsTooCommon Bicycle tour.
Anonymous
ah nice :) Any good ?
@Tiffany yes.
1 hour ago, by Tiffany
Blame! is an interesting sci-fi anime
15:48
it's somewhere in my "read later" list
I'm assuming you already know the plot and what not
um, any fantasy action suggestions?
...Berserk?
there was one I started watching that was kinda cool but didn't watch the entire thing... need to find the name
@JayIsTooCommon Everything's fine, yup.
I can't find it, looks like it was taken off crunchyroll 😒 it was produced by squareenix
or I'm just going crazy cause I can't find it on myanimelist either.
Anonymous
16:04
pagination for a dynamic list while trying to maintain decent user experience is quite complicated..
Morning
16:31
posted on August 03, 2017 by CommitStrip

user924016
16:44
mornings
16:57
\o
@Jimbo This the first one I've gotten…
@Tiffany Berserk has a very VERY dark ending
yes. I wish there was more of it
@SheikYerbouti What kind of fantasy?
I loved Twelve Kingdoms when I was younger, unsure if I would now.
some setting where there is magic, or something
um, I'm not really into old school animes
mmkay, the synopsis looks nice... in goes into my watch list
you have... very interesting tastes.
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I wouldn't enjoy the same things I watched way-back-when now-a-days.
I lived vicariously through anime. Ecchi, Harem etc. :P
evening
@Fabor woah, thanks ^^
Many lonely nights cuddling my waifu pillow.
@kelunik Did you get the domain thing sorted with @rdlowrey?
17:09
haha they're called Dakimakura's. It's amazing that product is so popular.
Do any of you guys use open-sourced cms's?
in vietnam?
I am kidding about the pillow.
lol
I'd have loved one tho... but if it was used by me, my parents might just throw me out of house
i've been looking at ProcessWire
17:12
@SheikYerbouti Just wait till you don't live with your parents then reassess.
@Fabor like 99% of harem animes/mangas are unwatchable
@tereško Not when I was 13 :P
they all have the same protagonist .. let's call him "the pants"
evenin elephants
Language Cookie is not working – #75030
17:23
\o
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@IROEGBU Why is that?
Oh haha, it's PHP
I didn't even notice that
17:38
to people who say you can't aim in console: xboxdvr.com/gamer/TandemMeerkat62/video/34651840
@Trowski Not yet, have been away the last days
People don't say that, they talk about aim assists and auto-aim
well, I just made that up as a pretext to post a random clip
If I had said nothing, it would been outright weird...
I've been reading through these tutorials to avoid using frameworks: github.com/PatrickLouys/no-framework-tutorial , if I opt to use something like wordpress as a cms, can I still integrate these concepts or will I be limited to writing my own additional 'stuff' ?
@kelunik That and @rdlowrey is too busy being pretty I suppose…
17:52
@Trowski Yup. Should he transfer it to you or me? Do you have a good domain reseller?
You could use Google Domains, I can't, because it isn't available in Germany.
@kelunik I'm happy to handle it. I already manage about 50 domains so I tend to get bulk renewal discounts at my reseller. I'm using name.com right now and they've been pretty reliable and well priced.
I think @rdlowrey has to renew it now before it can be transferred.
@Trowski It's auto-renewed anyway.
Ah, good. Well whenever he gets a chance then.
^ @rdlowrey Just transfer it to @Trowski
@Jimbo But forealsies. How's life out there? You must be settled by now.
18:51
hahah the avatar for "Fabio" is great. Click
nite all have a great friday
@Fabor the whole anime/manga is dark, so it doesn't surprise me
lol @tereško
@Tiffany No... it gets REALLY dark.
@Fabor looks like there's basically no non-tech people?
18:55
@FlorianMargaine I think it's just the tech side for that subdomain
Why does @Jeeves source code try to require /vender/autoload.php when that file doesn't exist
@Fabor emm .. ins't Berserk ongoing manga?
@Alesana Because
@Jeeves Oh I guess that makes sense
@Fabor are you talking about the ending with griffith becoming the fifth god hand?
@Alesana it makes perfect sense.... (I have no idea)
18:55
@Alesana hit.
I am really frustrated trying to get it to work on my virtualbox haha
haha
@Tiffany Long time since i watched but the thing that happens to his GF
18:57
@Fabor yeah.....
@Alesana composer generates that
@PaulCrovella Ah now I feel stupid.
@Fabor she gets some serious PTSD after that, she used to be such a badass.

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