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20:07
Unary operator expected error when configuring – #74905
hehe
@Dereleased but... it's not hard...
Which is why Schneier would be laughing so hard at you
Like asking Hawking to explain how a lever works
when adobe acrobat introduced a text-to-speech feature it sounded just like Hawking, so I found a pdf of his A Brief History of Time and had it read to me... it was nerdgasmic
@Allenph this isn't facebook here...
Note To Self: @FlorianMargaine does not like ax murderer jokes.
https://t.co/E4WGmFjER8
21:18
@PaulCrovella eat a raw squid
forgot to answer that.
@WesStark with or without the tusk?
with the tusk. good luck chewing them :B
21:54
I put unary ?? to a vote for some reason
22:08
!!rfcs
nah. i would rather have undefined key not complaining about anything
but since it's just a notice i don't even care
@Andrea pls address unary/binary ambig
@NikiC you mean with other operators? yeah, I should look into that
??$var would be nice
22:13
@NikiC it looks like the parser interprets it as ($a?? (+ $b))
sorry, wasn't thinking straight there
so yeah it seems to behave as it does at present
let me add that to the RFC
done
@hakre ??sdrawkcab
I guess it resolves that way because it's greedy.
Does PHP have any similar ambiguities like this at present? I guess we don't really use suffixes much…
@Andrea are you in the mood of strange rfcs? i always hated writing:
`!$foo instanceof Bar` ... which is the same of ... `!($foo instanceof Bar)`, right?
`$foo !instanceof Bar` would be nice :B
22:21
@WesStark heh
similarly i would love to save parentheses when negating whole if()s, e.g.
if(!($foo && $bar && $qux)){
could be
if!($foo && $bar && $qux){
:B
@kelunik someone saw the logo on fb and wants to commission me one for their shop. perhaps i can repay myself for rhinoceros :B and the time spent
@WesStark that's actually freaking awesome, congrats!!
i doubt i will earn much from that. but it's something
22:42
Warning redirecting incorrect #include <sys/errno.h> to <errno.h> – #74906
3 messages moved to Trash
Anonymous
Fucking phone blocking UD
@JayIsTooCommon i knew you would appear
22:57
@WesStark you're thinking of unless() which is an awesome keyword and it should deffo get added. Zero BC breaks, and adding it is a 5 minute job (I can write the patch, if that tells you anything), occurs entirely in the parser, as it just generates an IF with its condition wrapped in a BOOL_NOT.
or that
@Dereleased I would actually like to see this. How many bugs because of missing a !
The only real wrinkle is deciding whether to support unless/else. I vote no because the readability really sucks, but then again, who am I?
elseunless :-D
unless/otherwise
unless/andunless/otherwise
unless ( f > 4 ) { ... }
andunless ( g > 2 ) { ... }
otherwise { ... }
23:05
what i want is avoiding nested parens as much as possible @Dereleased
@Dereleased Oh the bikeshedding that would cause… I don't know if I'd want to go down that rabbit hole.
@Trowski Which is why I say unless has no counterpart
you need a counterpart, use if(!())
hence if !() would be totally fine for me
in fact also if true {} would be nice
i think scala has optional parentheses around if condition
@Dereleased Just flip the condition then and the negative is the else.
So yes, I agree, unless should not allow a counterpart.
23:21
@Trowski It does in perl, so there's precedent for that, but there's no elsunless in Perl either. I'd definitely avoid providing/allowing a counterpart personally.
@Trowski Or we could make PHP-OC, and remove all else* keywords
and make it syntactically invalid to have any control structure embedded within another
And write all of this while sitting in a coffee shop
@JayIsTooCommon still think the arrow is horrible?
@WesStark $foo isn'ta Bar
yep
we have != for == and !== for === so we can have !instanceof for instanceof :B
Anonymous
@WesStark nope, I really like that one. It all works
@JayIsTooCommon be honest. i can tell you are not honest
@WesStark Is it because words are next to his name?
don't {
    go(breakingMyHeart());
} // youtube.com/watch?v=z0qW9P-uYfM
this is Perl, dawg
don't {
    go breakingMyHeart
}
23:27
sorry :B
Anonymous
@WesStark genuinely, I like it. The arrow looks less random now that it's faded into the trunk. I think it looks very good
it's because that one was a sketch
Anonymous
oic, well yeah, all looks good :)
sub Don'tGo { print shift }
sub breakingMyHeart { "Don't go breakin' my heart!" }
Don'tGo breakingMyHeart
syntactically valid and does the thing
lol
@JayIsTooCommon i don't believe you
i hate this logo so much.
Anonymous
23:41
Because you've been looking at it too long.. I hate anything I spend time on. Ship it, leave it for a bit, come back Christmas see then?
i'll wait for ampv4? :B
Anonymous
Sure :P but at least ship that one
Anonymous
Anyway, screw you all, going bed. G'night
fuck you too. <3 gn

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