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09:00
use the extra and get a nice hotel room while you go house hunting :)
No, get more kittens!
moar cowbell?
GBP @Hybridwebdev
@JoeWatkins ?
you said euro
09:04
oh
oh that's currency
it's a bunch of money whatever currency ... what a thing ...
SO down?
user924016
not here
09:09
Morning.
@PeeHaa Was (for me).
up @PeeHaa I saw a think from stackex on twitter last night that there would be some outages ...
user924016
today I must code.. finally done setting dual boot (win8/mint) and installing stuff.. found out this laptop does not support vt-x =[ How about you guys, anyone taking any summer vacation?
Lousy SO going down. I almost had to do some work.
mornings
moin @DaveRandom
09:15
Morning Dave. We're at 8k
getting way over 8k
Morning
@Fabien Link?
8k what now?
It's top of starred too
09:17
oh awesome
so awesome ...
mornings
what would you call a shared interface for all Header classes
like AcceptHeader and ContentTypeHeader
... Header?
what's wrong with it?
xD
IHeader?
09:22
already taken by something else?
@Magikaas Too microsoft'ish. ))
@FlorianMargaine by the namespace =P
I am actually looking to remove the "..Header" suffix
moin @NikiC
@Joe, use the extra to get your car fixed.
I'd still use Header\Header for the interface, and Header\Accept for the implementations
09:24
I'd use Header for the interface and Header\Accept for the implementations ...
... but I know not everyone likes is-a relationships for namespaces
@JoeWatkins It's cached so I can't see mine yet :(. Best wishes!
@SecondRikudo the cache is <5min
@SecondRikudo thnx :)
@Fabien yeah, and furniture, beds and that sort of stuff ...
@FlorianMargaine yeah, but is seems like a really bad naming convention
@JoeWatkins Was your last place furnished?
09:29
Yey now I see mine ^_^
I am actually thinking of:
It's good that they don't accept PayPal btw, PayPal is a bitch with the taxes
@Fabien by us yeah, but left a lot behind, gave some of it away ... so we got nothin ...
@JoeWatkins Why's that? If it's yours surely it would have been better to keep it in storage somewhere?
namespace Http\Headers;
class ContentType implements Standardized {} \
or maybe .. implements Abstracted
09:31
@SecondRikudo we thought we'd be stuck like this for at least 5 months, the storage was more than the cost of buying new stuff
Help a fellow dev out, will you? ... http://www.gofundme.com/b9dfcg?pc=tw_p2 via @gofundme
RT please ^
@JoeWatkins I see
@SecondRikudo, I already retweeted
Please help out @krakjoe http://www.gofundme.com/b9dfcg -- fuck potato salad, help a real person
@tereško Even better
thanks guys :)
I'm glad to see that people have your back @JoeWatkins, sometimes that means more than the money itself.
All these immigrants coming over here, taking our chat rooms, the very least they should do is bloody well do it in the Queen's English. I would also punish people who can't spell. I mean how bloody hard is it? — biziclop 2 mins ago
lol
09:37
His grammar isn't exactly great.
@JoeWatkins if you can get to Israel, you're welcome to come live with me for a while, and I promise I can get you a job and a house. Not joking. My email is benji [at] tipranks [dot] com , I am serious.
the other day I was talking to someone on skype, they asked me if I had any friends ... I made the horrible observation that after having spent ten years infront of a screen 16 hours or more a day, I don't have any left, the only friend I really have is the one letting me stay on their land ... I could be one of those guys with 100 friends and I'm sure they wouldn't do what #php has ...
You have friends :)
@JoeWatkins great
@BenjaminGruenbaum I do, yeah :)
09:39
@JoeWatkins RL friends are tough to come by and even tougher to stick with.
You working remotely doesn't aid with it either.
@JoeWatkins do "gofundme" take a slice?
it really doesn't ...
@BenjaminGruenbaum I'm not really sure, I think fee's are charged upon donation ... I tried to read it last night but just numbers and I forgot them ...
> While it's free to create and share your online fundraising campaign, GoFundMe will deduct a 5% fee from each donation that you receive. Since our fee is deducted automatically, you'll never need to worry about being billed or owing us any money. A small processing fee of about 3% will also be deducted from each donation. Please see Pricing & Fees for more info.
@BenjaminGruenbaum Empty
@JoeWatkins Total of 8% it seems. CC @BenjaminGruenbaum
09:44
$service_type = wp_get_post_terms('328', 'service_type', array("fields" => "names",'hide_empty' => false));

var_dump($service_type);
why the hell does this work in a template, but not in an action hook? Makes no god damn sense
wow, 8% is pretty big
@JoeWatkins Not much but.. my salary does not give me possibility to afford more. :)
and only in 1 specific woocommmerce action hook
thank you @Leri
09:47
@JoeWatkins You're welcome. Best of luck.
Oh son-of a bitch, figured out why Im having this issue
'Morning Gurus ;D
(I made it a vow not to complain about nothin today, but I'm sleepy as hell. Coca-Cola didn't do much. Ideas?)
Is getting more sleep a valid suggestion?
10:04
nope
I'm already at work. Thinking about droping a cup of coffee
@MoshMage I usually eat coffee (I know I am supposed to drink) that helps much. :)
@MoshMage Take a bunch of speed
@BenjaminGruenbaum one more
@BenjaminGruenbaum :)
@MoshMage Go for a ten minute walk, and walk around really fast for a few minutes to get your blood moving.
@Danack ...then take a whole bunch of speed?
@MoshMage if you have a desk, forward calls, grab pillow, hide under desk
@MoshMage If you have had a good night sleep, but still sleepy when you wake up, you're probably dehydrated. Drink a glass of water, it does wonders.
10:12
God it feels so good resolving a programming code that's been making you tear your hair out all day
programming issue rather
@Hybridwebdev I know your feeling, the only problem is I make stupid mistakes if I have a derping day xD
@MikeM. well it wasn't even a derpy moment, this was actually cause by faulty prioritizing by the woocommerce devs :P
xD
well still if you're in a derping day good luck finding the thing back you edited :D
wow. This actually makes sense.
Also, the ten minute walk @Danack said might work as well. On to drinking water and doing a small run on the same spot :x
alas, I can't hide under the desk; ppl would see me
:x
Is there a reason I should learn Sharepoint development? Or is it Evil!?
10:23
^ It's evil. (Since everything unknown is Evil :x)
So @MoshMage I am evil for you?
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Q: facebook Don't Show Correct Page Title in Share functionality

ramanI am using the following code to use facebook share functionality: document.write('<a target="_blank" href="http://www.facebook.com/sharer.php?u=' + escape(document.location.href) + '&t=' + escape(document.title) + '"><img src="http://w.sharethis.com/images/facebook_32.png" width="32" height="32...

please help
@MikeM. YEP! Unkown = Evil. That's what church teaches us anway so, why bother negating it? (lol.)
Okay then
Negating it?
!church
10:27
idk what your churches learn there but our churches just talk for hours. that's why I don't go to a church (rofl)
Or possibly ~church
is it just me, or does FB's api really, really suck?
for example, want a facebook like or comment box to fit in your nicely with your pretty responsive design? Too damn bad!
it sucks really hard
check the share functionality ^^^up there^^^ it also sucks
nods, I always dread the "Add FB blah blah" aspect of any dev work I do
@DaveRandom hah! priceless. xD
10:35
if people want facebook integration on my dev work then I tell them 1 thing: Have fun creating it, I am not going to do it.
Lol wish I had those kinda balls :)
I just silently do it, and develop an ever-growing hatred of the client :)
I am still a hobbyist so those balls are respected :D
some people on my skype are like: yo can you make a facebook integration
I am like: Nope
they are like: okay cool I don't really need it anyways
then I think: Why the fuck you want it then -.-
To see if they can get it out of you, maybe you had an 'off-the'shelf' solution or something or it's just copy-paste
"But you're a web-guy, so many websites have FB integration, it can't be that hard for you"
ye a many known reason why we should make something because: "we are web-guys, it's easy for us"
@Hybridwebdev So THAT is why I hate the current personal project I am working on outside my job... Makes a lot of sense xD
user924016
10:43
buhhu
user924016
=]
@Magikaas what's your personal project?
@RonniSkansing why being a cow?
@MikeM. personal project is probably the wrong word, more "freelance"
@Magikaas what's that personal freelance project ?
@MikeM. But It's a webshop where you can give 'gifts' through facebook and the receiver then opens the website on his phone at the cash register and enters a code he gets from the person behind the register to receive his gift
10:45
hmmm oki then
my personal project is some forum software
but I need to get more into webdesigning xD
@MikeM. After which they wanted new types of gifts, where you can add a youtube video in the post or give free gifts or give a gift that only has a limited amount of discount codes that it gives to the receiver or a gift to yourself
neat, I've noticed we seem to be trending more and more towards the e-cash concept. Soon normal physical currency will be rendered obsolete.
I am more like a server sided worker :D
@MikeM. Ewww, I don't even want to try that, I tried my hardest when I had to implement the design for that project, but I just could not get things right so they ended up hiring a designer off a part of my pay... >_<
xD I know right Magikaas
fuck designs
let's keep "blanc" pages with a bunch of random floating shit in it xD
10:50
haha
@Hybridwebdev Missing a mouse-following clock
Or other mouse-trails
Oh god
Also no background-music that you can't turn off
Sorry, it can be so much worse
10:52
Ye
But yes, that is quite...
Horrible xD
Even without those things, haha
deep down inside, I kinda miss the good old web 1.0 days
Hahaha
ye if it still was those old web 1.0 days this would be magic: ssbulletinboard.tk
When it was not so complicated and people didn't expect the world
10:54
by the pits of hell.. why produce such bad things as an intention
@AlmaDo for the sheer irony
also, nostalgia
for what?
this is the first design I ever made: http://www.ssbulletinboard.tk/install/
same as on my release open source php script: http://www.ssmailsubscription.tk
angelfire.com/emo/retribution first website I ever made :)
okay so my design isn't bad atall for the first time :D
10:57
Geocities anyone?
Geocities?
@mike cant click any of the side menus :(
Ah, designs, not just website services
you design is flawed
as is my grammar
@Hybridwebdev if it's on the installer ofcourse not
read the text
You already Successfully installed the forum software!

To re-install please remove the lock file!
If you do not want to re-install you can remove this folder!
AKA the installer is locked
so ofcourse you cannot click the inside menu's and btw it's an installer the only thing you can click on is next
10:59
oooooo
my bad
oh and I agree ...
there the menu items are clickable
My need to click things and see results is satisfied, thank you sir
xD
it took me hours to create that template xD
my brain was like: Please stop I am suiciding by this!
now if I see the design only my eyes say something close to that ^^
E_NO_MORE_SHIT
@MikeM. if you don't already, might I suggest getting started with WP? Makes life so much easier
11:08
WordPress?
are you serious?
what is a "WP"? Windows Phone?
WordPress = no no
I wasn't sure if he meant Wordpress, but then I checked the chats he is in, he does mean it ._.
yes
should I be ashamed?
11:09
@Hybridwebdev yes. here is the door
:(
But but, wordpress USES php :P
insert circular logic here
I can use a hammer for many things. Doesn't mean I will use it properly.
I think we should have black list for some words. Codeigniter, cakephp or wordpress are well-known examples sigh
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Fabien combine it in 1 line and you got my star :S
11:12
well Ignitewordcake
Hahaha
what we really need is a faq entry with a short explanation why those things are bad and what the person asking should do instead
Wp is actually got me interested in php, jquery etc. It's what put me on the path to becoming a professional developer
@Hybridwebdev you are still using it? "professional developer" might not be the right term. Are you familiar with SOLID etc?
well I can't help but notice you named 2 rather prominent frameworks in there
it's hard to fathom how people can have a hatred for frameworks, when they do much of the heavy lifting for you. Im all for anything that makes my developing easier
11:15
@Hybridwebdev I think those links could help you stackoverflow.com/a/16356866/2834339
even if it involves a learning curve
@AlmaDo On the Room 11 github a FAQ for these kind of things is and has been suggested.
@Hybridwebdev That could be the name of the newest PHP framework
@Hybridwebdev We don't dislike frameworks. We dislike generic frameworks.
@Fabien yep. But "democracy", fuck it
11:16
heh
we can put it on a different page and just link to that?
sooo, how about that bootstrap? :)
lol
it's pointless
It kinda is
11:17
bunch of bloated css and JS most sane people would never even have a use for
I mean, when people asked if they could ask a question, and I pointed them at the "just ask do", they would often simply ask again if they could ask their questions.
@SecondRikudo does CakePHP3.0 count ?
=P
520am here, time to sleep, nice chatting with you folks
Bootstrap is quite pointless yes
people think they can be lazy fucks but they still need to write it to their own hands xD
it's only pre-made css classes
anyways I am off just downloaded all the 36 albums of Andre Hazes got my playlist together :D
yes bootstrap is only pre-made css classes
and that's what I need :D
11:20
@MikeM. Hahaha, have fun good luck there xD
espcially handle the fkn IE css bugs
yeah ... well .. I can write CSS and have no issues with handling few minor IE8+ bugs
we can all write CSS but why doing the same thing every time
and we can't do that if we have many projects...
pls.. haters give a real reason
emm ... because designs are not the same
who said the same ?
11:21
57 secs ago, by Sn0opr
we can all write CSS but why doing the same thing every time
that's why they included SASS
to let it easy to modefy the CSS
modify*
ya know what ... I will have to add another tiny avatar ... for my blood pressure
just look at wrapbootstrap.com and give me a design that matches with other
they are all made with bootstrap
11:26
about to launch a site *IE7 entrance music plays* IE7 hits me in the back with a steel chair and pins me i wake up…
So amazing
Any good business or development/php podcast recommendations for a short flight?
nope
@Patrick better get some stories from H.P.Lovecraft in audio format
I already filled my kindle with asimov and heinlein. Not really into horror
11:40
@ircmaxell yes it is :)
11:50
@ircmaxell @JoeWatkins IT'S OVER NINE THOUSAAAAAAAAAND
So @JoeWatkins, time to start looking for a new house stately home :-P
hehehe
btw, what's the deal with tax on this thing?
no clue
11:54
need to scope that out, you don't want to get bitten by hmrc down the line
yeah, I will find out
I think charitable donations/gifts are tax free up to a certain amount ...
@JoeWatkins In Israel any income past a certain amount is taxed 25%
You should really check that one out with an accountant/field lawyer
So glad its working out for you!
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> ...the most likely scenario is that the investment is a donation and is not liable to income tax, unless he or she is considered to be involved in a taxable activity such as trading when the funds are likely to chargeable to income tax, although of course everyone has a personal allowance which is currently £8,105.

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