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00:00
Anyway I'm going to take a shower, shave and take a nap. I think I have some customers coming over tomorrow morning :(
user895378
Boo customers. Yay naps!
@crypticツ We're not all cats. Most people don't design by pissing on things, so wind is less of a problem.
:)
nite all
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@PeeHaa later
@PeeHaa nite
GOD DAMN IT WHY DOES PUTTY KEEP DISAPPEARING OFF THIS MACHINE????????
00:03
Purple with shadow. @rdlowrey @DaveRandom @crypticツ @salathe @Gordon
Uploaded in case you are too slow and miss this iteration.
user895378
Not bad. I think I prefer the box around it, but not by a huge margin. Actually I think I like them both.
@LeviMorrison should have a background color. Otherwise browser themes which set their own background colors will bleed in or be too dark to notice any shadowing.
I have a dark theme so I see no shadow
Screenshot plox.
@crypticツ I have to be honest I'm struggling to see any issues with that config, although I still think that having two fastcgi_pass definitions is a bad idea. The only other thing you could try is fastcgi_param SCRIPT_FILENAME $document_root$fastcgi_script_name; although I'd be surprised if that actually fixes it. What exactly get's downloaded? The source as text?
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00:08
@LeviMorrison like that better
user895378
@LeviMorrison oooh
Let me set it as the favicon.
Looks great on Retina, how about you guys?
@DaveRandom so how does it know to pass any script to php5-cgi?
00:09
@LeviMorrison Looks good. Best so far IMO.
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Also, just figured out a nice workaround for some pthreads segfaults I was having ... APCu extension works in CLI across threads because it's technically the same process :)
@crypticツ Don't quite get your meaning there?
brb smoke
@DaveRandom do I have to use fpm? Can't I just route requests to php5-cgi?
OIC
yeh it doesn't really matter which that much (for the traffic volume you are talking about)
But I'd definitely comment out one or the other
and personally I'd rather use fpm+unix sock, but that's your call
@PeeHaa the forth is the best…
@DaveRandom if I can get that working =o(
@crypticツ Could you screenshot the lastest favicon for me? Should be the image ^
00:16
@LeviMorrison +1 The best of all until now
@bwoebi Even better than:
?
yes.
the purple just looks somewhat superfluous
user895378
@LeviMorrison I like this one too.
I feel like the more purple I stick in there the more PHP it feels >.<
Okay, going home now. Thanks for all your help, guys and gal.
it feels more the old php
00:20
@crypticツ I've just been bollocked by the misses for not being in bed, I'll take another look tomorrow if you're still having problems
nite @all
@LeviMorrison without purple it feels more modern, more appropriate to the new website
user895378
@DaveRandom see ya
@DaveRandom kk, thanks. On a side note askubuntu.com/questions/114076/ubuntu-php5-fpm-unix-socket I went looking for such a config file and can't find it. I'm going to do a fresh install and start from scratch tomorrow. good dnite
00:53
Yuck, the one you guys like looks awful on my home monitor. @bwoebi @rdlowrey
So, I was thinking about something I'd like to see in PHP. Anybody that knows more about implementing internal PHP things around?
I know a tiny bit; not much though.
Well, I'm in a situation with a work project and some personal projects where I want to pass in an array of a specific type of object
I'd like to see some type hint syntax like function stuff(Foo[] $fooCollection)
That would only allow an array of Foo
And I just don't know enough about internal implementations to know if this is something that might be feasible
By "array of Foo" I mean an array where every populated bucket stores a type of Foo
posted on July 26, 2013 by Christopher Jones

Note: This post describes functionality in PHP OCI8 2.0.0-devel. Functionality and naming is subject to change. The new Oracle Database 12c "Implicit Result Sets" (IRS) feature allows query results to be returned from a stored PL/SQL procedure (or a PL/SQL anonymous block) without requiring special PHP code. Support for IRS is available in PHP OCI8 2.0.0-devel extension when it is compiled

01:30
So I was reading a website that talked about the biggest names in the tech industry today (Google, Microsoft, Apple, Facebook etc.) and I was quite surprised at how the people who started those companies, how easily they just went and began a new company
@TheGuyWhoCouldn'tTalkToTheGirl I think maybe you're glossing over the immense amount of work those people had to do. I'm sure it wasn't "easy"
@cspray Here is an example: Facebook was far from a start up when it launched. It was just a "cool" website that received a lot of attention. But it quickly got incorporated as an LLC. I mean, if I created a website like Facebook and got attention that it got, I wouldn't immediately leave everything and create a company out of it.
@TheGuyWhoCouldn'tTalkToTheGirl Well, I would argue that there's probably a lot of things that we aren't aware of that influenced their decisions. Personality probably also has a lot to do with it.
If I created a website that got early-FB level attention and the initial capital I would totally create a company out of it
Hi guys i have a quick question. So im using this site, 000webhost, for web hosting and im trying to connect it through putty, this all the information 000webhost gave me i.imgur.com/xjgcqBu.png, i tried domain name and username but it wont connect, i tried server too but it didnt work as well. Do you guys know do I have to put in?
@Nabmeister You should contact your hosting company
01:44
@cspray really? i have used my college host name through putty and it worked
i dont know why this is not working
@Nabmeister Yes, really. If you're having problems with your host's services you should contact them.
Unless a member of the room works for or uses your webhost the most they'll be able to do is guess
@cspray You also need to take into account that you are a sophomore in college and you decide to start the company.
@TheGuyWhoCouldn'tTalkToTheGirl I was a freshman in college and I dropped out to take a job
School was never anything but a means to an end; get a real life job.
I might go back to school at some point but it isn't necessarily a priority for me
I'd rather have real life, actual work experience
If I did go back to school it wouldn't necessarily be for the computer side of programming. I'd probably go for more business education or psychology/human interaction related type curriculum.
02:04
You have read the manual on date(), right? — Jack 23 secs ago
@Jack pfffft, who needs to read the manual?!
@cspray In PHP, definitely not.
@LeviMorrison Is this a technical limitation or political?
@cspray Well, there would be a lot of technical work to do for it, but mostly a political one.
You can use docblocks for IDE purposes though ;-)
@cspray There are overheads for a language such as php to allow this.
Basically it has to foreach $fooCollection make sure it's instanceof Foo
02:08
@Jack Isn't that what we're already doing in userland? :P
Are we?
And if there are mostly political hurdles I won't even bother with internals
@Jack That or you're fatal erroring out when you wind up calling a function on some type that isn't what you expect
I prefer the fatal error :)
/s/function/method
It wouldn't have to iterate over each item if it was designed properly.
02:10
@Jack Eh, I'm just saying let's move it from run time to compile time :P
What TDD framework are you using?
hi
@cspray Feel free to branch off into PHP++ =D
No, just use a different language.
@Jack Eh, like I said before I don't know that much about implementing internal PHP stuff
Use Dart or Java.
Or maybe C++.
02:11
I've been using Java more lately
If you want to move that particular thing into compile time, you might as well go all the way and use compiled language.
@Jack Eh, I wouldn't necessarily say that is going that far
And I think that's the stance of internals as well .. it just doesn't fit php.
I mean ..what framework are you using for functional testing with selenium?
The war on type hints prevented even the innocent scalar type hint from being born.
Or maybe they've changed their mind meanwhile, but I doubt it.
02:15
@cspray Honestly I'd recommend looking into Dart.
As something that can run server and client side it's worth looking into anyway.
It's not version 1.0 yet, but it's an interesting project.
And it's quite fast for a dynamic language.
Poisonous Dart?
03:07
@jack not a fan of dart?
03:22
anyone sick of seeing bootstrap templates?
@marabutt *hides in shame* =o(
Hi, am I allowed to ask question about PHP here?
@cryptic it would still look much better than anything I could come up with.
I don't use the default style unless I don't care. Otherwise I change the variables file and I use LESS so it's easy.
@user2352236 read room description please
Hi everyone!
anyone here uses CIBonfire?
03:24
hello
Is it true that CI is being orphaned?
I dunno..
@KyleEmmanuel No, but I've answered a few questions on it as I know a bit about CI
@marabutt where was this said?
Sorry, my bad. I m having problem on displaying images using PHP. I used header. And the image doesn't show.
I mean I know the development has slowed down, but CI 3.0 is due to come out soon.
03:26
@user2352236 : How did you code it?
header('Content-type:image/jpeg');
readfile('images/mini/c4.jpeg');
@user2352236 hmmm... try to echo it... :D
@user2352236 you likely have an error occuring such as filepath is wrong or you have whitespace somewhere in your file causing the image to be corrupted or causing headers already sent error.
@KyleEmmanuel Yeah, I already echoed it. And the image is broken.
03:28
@user2352236 can you post the whole file exactly?
@user2352236 base64encode than post ;)
@user2352236 pastebin can work?
if you comment out
//header('Content-type:image/jpeg'); what does file_exists('images/mini/c4.jpeg'); say
@user2352236 What is the broken image file?
@user2352236 save the broken image file to your computer, rename it to whatever.txt then open it in a text editor and see if there are any PHP errors.
03:33
who is up on generators?
@marabutt Warning: readfile(images/mini/c4.jpeg): failed to open stream: No such file or directory
@user2352236 one of my favourite tricks. There is a problem with the path
try readfile(__DIR__."/images/mini/c4.jpeg");
@marabutt The path is okay, as I have checked it
@user2352236 php says different .... and that's what matters
03:38
@Orangepill Still the same. The image is broken.
there is the image file relative to the php file in the address bar of your browser
or better what is in the address bar if you navigate to c4.jpeg directly.
@user2352236 can you get to it via http://mydomain.com/images/mini/c4.jpeg
@Orangepill images->mini->c4.jpeg
@user2352236 either you have a permission issue or you borked up the path to the file.
@Orangepill Do you know how to fix it?
Morning
03:44
Is there a service that could give you the css of text in an image?
give me the full path to your image and give me the results of echo getcwd();
@Mr.Alien evening :)
@TheGuyWhoCouldn'tTalkToTheGirl huh?
@Orangepill evening to you :)
@TheGuyWhoCouldn'tTalkToTheGirl a screen cap of a page render?
Well, I initially wrote the css code for the logo of my website, but saved it as an image instead of using the css because the browsers that didn't support the font would make the logo look ugly. Unfortunately, I can't find the css code right now but I have the image.
03:47
@Orangepill I'm just kidding, I don't know Dart at all ;-)
@TheGuyWhoCouldn'tTalkToTheGirl so you're looking for the font used to create the image? If so yes, there is such a service.
@user2352236 Well, if the file is not there, it's only logical that php says it's not there ;-)
I already know the font but I need to know the text-shadow code of it.
@Jack But it's there. Trust me.
@TheGuyWhoCouldn'tTalkToTheGirl you can also make out fonts from an svg file
03:49
@TheGuyWhoCouldn'tTalkToTheGirl oh then I don't know of such a service existing.
@TheGuyWhoCouldn'tTalkToTheGirl so y u need the font again wen its makin ur website ugly?
@JAck me neither... but I'm excited about the prospect of another client side language.
@Orangepill echo getcwd() says nothing
@Mr.Alien I wrote the entire code, then saved the output as an image to maintain the consistency across all browsers. I need the CSS code to recreate that image with minor changes.
@user2352236 i don't know how that can be possible.
03:51
Aah I got you nw, I dont think theres such a service available. ?.
@TheGuyWhoCouldn'tTalkToTheGirl Well since you know the font and just need the text-shadow why don't you just do it again and tweak the text-shadow until it matches. Seems like that would take less time and effort than looking for a service to do it.
Yeah I have been trying that. It's just annoying that I had the CSS code yet I can't find it when I need it.
@user2352236 is there a chdir anywhere in the code that you are testing or is it just the header and readfile calls
@user2352236 what os is hosting this?
and try var_dump(getcwd())
@Orangepill windows
@Orangepill It says now: C:\xampp\htdocs\binibini\admin1
@user2352236 And what is the full path to the image
04:04
@Orangepill C:\xampp\htdocs\binibini\admin\images\mini\c4.jpg
I can tell you right now that php is looking for your images at C:\xampp\htdocs\binibini\admin1\images\mini\c4.jpeg
do admin vs admin1
use readfile("../admin/images/mini/c4.jpg");
@TheGuyWhoCouldn'tTalkToTheGirl get your image here, I will make it for u
@Orangepill Thank you very much. It works now!
great :)
04:16
@user2352236 Just to explain what is going on ... php resolves all relative paths based on the current working directory. The current working directory is assigned to the path of the file that webserver hands the request off to php. (or the actual cwd if running the cli).
@Orangepill Thanks again.
@user2352236 not a problem
04:35
I am back.
welcome back
Hi
I'm a newbie to web development. Well, actually I do have some experience, but this time I'm going to make a serious website for myself, from which I'm expecting more than a million hits a month in about a year from now
Why users not upvoting correct answers but downvoting wrong answers ???
I'm starting to hate the JavaScript room now :(
It would be related to simply getting form input of 10-20 fields of TEXT type data of 20-1000 words
04:42
What framework do you guys think I should use? It should be highly scalable from about a year from now
But easy to get my head around now
expecting more than a million hits what is the website's purpose?
@ronnieaka how big and flexible is your head :)
haha I'm too tempted to star everything Orangepill says xD
well, i have done iris and eye corner tracking in python with NIL prior experience in python.
so i guess creating a website that simply takes forms and then shows them to those who want to see, shouldn't be too complex.
BUT, i want it to be okay if I start getting millions of visitors :)
04:45
then why not use python? please don't shoot me down for this -- it's stricter than PHP and more scalable imo
Yeah but Python hosting is not cheap enough.
sounds like a dedicated host, vps/shared isn't even :)
I've been researching around - and I found Play framework for Java, and Phalcon for PHP. Do you have any experience about them sir?
I've used laravel, and I hate Java with a passion :)
@DaveChen more scalable? in what way?
04:49
@ronnieaka I would suggest Zend Framework... but I don't have a lot of experience with other frameworks.
Can I also ask one thing? Why aren't there frameworks like CodeIgniter for C++ out there? I'm pretty comfortable in C++. Actually it's my language of choice after Python. Simply because it was my first language, and it's fast.
@Jack Python rides on dynamic, strong language. I'd say just by looking at the questions here on SO -- a lot of bad practice used for PHP x.x, Python pretty much forces you to use classes, whereas PHP can just like -- w/e
@davechen but PHP is a web first language and is engineered to operate in this problem space.
@YogeshSuthar They prefer losing a point rather than awarding you 10 points :p
04:55
@Mr.Alien Yeah I think same. :D
@Orangepill I totally agree, PHP is pretty much made for web, it's easier to setup, the environment is looser. IMO it's like jQuery vs Sencha
any idea why there would be a delay within a script only containing header('Location: something.php'); ?
sleep(a long time);?
@YogeshSuthar Check this out, and make ur a-s-s red lol
@Happyninja something.php is doing something time consuming????
04:57
@Mr.Alien I saw the link you sent me yesterday. It indicates that you are repwhore. :P
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@YogeshSuthar that indicates that you are more jealous now
lol
@Orangepill I don't thing so. It register like 5 $_SESSION var and redirect. I done it several time and it seem strange to me why it act like that.
@Mr.Alien Yeah and I am shouting right now to myself. :( Why I have lots of work to do?
@YogeshSuthar even I've lots of work to do
@Mr.Alien Not coding related work, I have lots of home-work. :(
05:00
@Happyninja change the redirect to somewhere you know will return fast to confirm
@YogeshSuthar lol, like?
@Mr.Alien contrats on epic.... I still need 14 more 200+ days
@Mr.Alien Bring some material from shop, etc..
http://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r6&hw=i7&test=db

Would you experienced people agree with that? It's just, so exhausting. I'm worrying about the crappy backend code that might not scale even before it is written
@Orangepill You will probably make it earlier than me, I was out of this website for 2 months...had some grudges with the rules here
@YogeshSuthar Even I do that
05:05
My picks are CI and Phalcon for PHP, Play(Java), and Google's GO (looks adventurous)
@Mr.Alien once in a year ?
@ronnieaka everything looks fancy till you start coding
@YogeshSuthar everyday bitch
@Mr.Alien hmmm...
infact since last 2 days am hitting 300 mark
I thought <center></center> is outdated? Google still uses it on its homepage.
05:08
@TheGuyWhoCouldn'tTalkToTheGirl Yes, even I say the same, they can't afford writing 10 lines of css compared to 2 tags of html
@Mr.Alien Well, you make it sound like its better to just use those two tags.
Why not just stay up-to-date? After all, there must be some reason they are outdated.
@TheGuyWhoCouldn'tTalkToTheGirl they want to ship all structural designs to css, Google is a huge company, every character in their source counts, they can't afford losing gigs of bandwidth everyday, so they minify it as much as possible, and it doesn't harm unless and until it works
@Mr.Alien how come they don't do that for youtube html source?
05:18
@crypticツ Yea I've seen the source there, but if you look back, they are changing the layouts rapidly, seems like it's not stable yet... am expecting youtube to use video tags soon and get rid of the flash.. also did you marked 1 more thing? try embedding their videos, it won't work unless you add http:// to the url
I didn't know // is the short form for http://
@TheGuyWhoCouldn'tTalkToTheGirl stackoverflow.com/questions/3583103/…
Oh my god, now I have to reprogram every URL again!
@TheGuyWhoCouldn'tTalkToTheGirl why
So I can benefit from its pro's.
05:25
http:// is enough..
you don't have to go for the latest everytime
I noticed that Indian chat msgs are flagged most of time in 2-3 days. :(
@YogeshSuthar
i flagged it to the mod
Moaning everybody :l
05:29
@Mr.Alien Which one?
@Tredged more-ning
If feeling you babbyyy, If I aint got you baby .. some people want diamonds rings
Wow, so I have to use 127.0.0.1 on IE9 because localhost doesn't work :(
@TheGuyWhoCouldn'tTalkToTheGirl host file get screwed up?
@YogeshSuthar hindi ones
@Mr.Alien okk.
@Orangepill Ehh I don't know and I don't care right now. I support Microsoft and IE, but sometimes IE drives me crazy in terms of web design.
@Mr.Alien for you?
Also, I thought <b></b> was outdated as well but it seems that it isn't.
@YogeshSuthar general
@TheGuyWhoCouldn'tTalkToTheGirl ie running in a virtual host or on same machine?
05:37
same machine. I am running XAMPP
@Mr.Alien I wish they would make these badges available
Should I use <strong> or <b>?
<strong>
and <em> over <i>
God Im so tired :S
@Orangepill Than this guy will get max
05:47
I am trying to use a custom font, but I am worried about how it will look like on different browsers.
@Mr.Alien Does he hold the record for highest single day rep ... 1225 in one day that's impressive.
looks like skeet topped out at 871
@Orangepill he has earned around 60% of his total rep in bounties, he is like bring it on kind of a guy
@Mr.Alien looks like he was only really active for 2 months
what is the "normal" value for letter-spacing?
@TheGuyWhoCouldn'tTalkToTheGirl 0 I think, meaning use the spacing defined in the font
user895378
05:58
Wow, so apparently gearman is totally useless. You can't receive results asynchronously inside an event loop. How does that help anyone?
Any native Chinese, Japaneses, Korean speakers here?
I miss my coffee :(
Haha @Mr.Alien Your profile here looks like facebook, everyday a new photo :D
@Tredged Ya, that's what I told to @Jack
@Mr.Alien Hahah :)
06:11
Whats the best and safest way to include a file config ?
@Tredged rephrase that question pointing out what your assumptions about best and safest are please
Some suggest using autoload, and my assumptions are to know what the safest way and best way is to include a file :P
Can someone help out with this SO Question :

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17874152/meta-tags-injected-in-body-instead-of-head-zend
Chrome keeps telling me: Invalid property value on a simply margin-left...
lol
@TheGuyWhoCouldn'tTalkToTheGirl Show us some code.
06:21
@Tredged autoload is different than config. autoload makes sure your class files are included when needed. config holds your various configurable data for the application.
@Gordon I understand, I just ment it in general for all import files :P
@user1537158 where do you echo $this->metaTags;? in the head or the body?
In my view
Im using Zend Framekwork
@user1537158 yes, I understood that. Where in your View are you doing echo $this->metaTags;. Afaik, the helper will output that exactly where you call it. So if you put that in the body, it will write right where you wrote it.
@Gordon Yes it is in my body, is there anyhow i can put it in the head tag from the view ?
06:25
@user1537158 You can put this in the layout
@Tredged Either use the PSR Autoloader or a PHPAB
@Orangepill from my controller can i get an instance of my layout to put it into it ?
Thanks @Gordon
@user1537158 just write it into your layout template
@Gordon my meta tags are to be generated dynamically depending on the data i pass, ym controller fetches API data, so the meta tags are not static
06:28
@user1537158 ZF's Meta Helper is just a placeholder. You can fill in from your controller but the call to write it should be in your layout template. See framework.zend.com/manual/2.0/en/modules/…
@user1537158 Zend_Layout::getMvcInstance()->headMeta()->appendName('description','blah blah balah');
Anyone know what could be causing this? pastebin.com/yDYT7stM
@crypticツ try the solution at the bottom of linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/…
@Orangepill it throws an exception Call to undefined method Zend_Layout::headMeta() ,
@user1537158 are you using layouts?
06:35
@Orangepill yes, im on ZF1 and im using laout
@user1537158 var_dump the results of Zend_Layout::getMvcInstance();
@Orangepill he should be able to just call $this->view->headMeta()->append() from the controller instead of getting the MVCInstance singleton
from what I understand he just doesn't echo the contents of the meta placeholder at the right place in the layout
@Gordon and @Orangepill this is the var_dump
object(Zend_Layout)#43 (16) {
["_container:protected"]=>
object(Zend_View_Helper_Placeholder_Container)#63 (0) {
}
["_contentKey:protected"]=>
string(7) "content"
["_enabled:protected"]=>
bool(true)
["_helperClass:protected"]=>
string(43) "Zend_Layout_Controller_Action_Helper_Layout"
["_inflector:protected"]=>
NULL
["_inflectorEnabled:protected"]=>
bool(true)
["_inflectorTarget:protected"]=>
string(15) ":script.:suffix"
["_layout:protected"]=>
string(6) "layout"
["_viewScriptPath:protected"]=>
string(66) "/var/www/html/project/application/layouts/scripts/"
@Gordon... I just realized that
@Gordon I forgot it's a static helper so any view will do...
@user is there a call <?php echo $this->headMeta(); ?> in your layout template?
06:40
no
then add it
its from one of my view
ok let me try that @Gordon
add in the head section obviously
and remove it from the view template
and in your controller just do $this->view->headMeta()->append(blablabhlah)
and delete your GenerateMeta Class. you don't need it.
@Gordon : Thou art Super Awesome , it worked
@Orangepill : Thanks a ton for your help ! :D
@user1537158 want me to provide it as an answer? otherwise, just delete the question please.
and you're welcome :)
06:43
For sure, Again you are super awesome :D
@Orangepill : Thanks for your help
@user1537158 no prob
@Gordon did you have to beg for a downvote for this
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Good friday morning.
@Orangepill sorry? what does "did you have beg" mean?
to get it back down to 666
hehe, the dv was on that for a long time. mainly because people felt it wasnt an answer. In fact, in the beginning it was mainly a link list. I only added the explanations and tool summaries much later
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06:48
I have nothing against 666 but I have to up-vote answer.
thanks
@Gordon You are a ZF guy.... did ZF1 get MVC wrong?
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I need to have possibility to decrypt user's password taken from database (I am passing it to third party API). What encryption algorithm will be more secure?
I can have separate password for internal login that will be hashed but I still need user's password for third party service-provider.
@Orangepill from a concept POV it's okay. But the entire implementation is just broken and untestable.
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And with more secure I mean if database information will be stolen attacker should have hard time to decrypt them (in ideal world, they must not be able. Sigh, not possible).
06:54
@Gordon Fixed in ZF2?
@PLB can you work with the third party on this? or is that not an option? Otherwise I would use public keys and use their public key to encrypt and store second copy on server and then pass that encrypted version to them so they can then decrypt with their private key. If you have a way of decrypting on the server that is storing the password then it's not secure as a hacker will have the same ability.
keep in mind 3rd party needs to take steps to protect their key of course >.<
@Orangepill haven't tried it but I heard it is. My main issues with ZF1's MVC is that it provides very little seams to do your testing. There is so much coupling between the components that you have almost no chance to test your stuff in isolation. I shouldn't have to bootstrap half of my application to test a View Helper or a Controller.
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@crypticツ I can't work with the third-party. It's some public API and they won't change anything. :(
I thought about code obfuscation. But attacker can still debug it.
@PLB you young folks. Clubbing all night. Third party? I am already wasted after the first party.
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@Gordon LOL
06:59
@Gordon I'm more interested in the services of the third party :p

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