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08:02
This is so idiotic I was learning JS yest, and even that book didn't show any work around to use constants in JS
@HenryW please don't do that again ¬_¬
08:12
@Ocramius got it. Thanks.
@thecoshman morning mighty pirate
What brings you to room 11?
@PeeHaa was plinked
@thecoshman ah k
monring
onmroing @DaveRandom
08:18
That's a good word
Sounds like when you sit on a really old sprung mattress
Neh that's the sounds I make on monday monring after having to work the entire weekend
BTW I just checked and I don't think you have already installed viper7's codepad on my server right? @DaveRandom ;)
@PeeHaa No but I have been playing around with the idea of setting it up on mine :-P
What OS do you run?
More to the point, do you know what OS he runs?
@crypticツ Easy enough, you just have a cacheable JSON view of the same data, generated at the same time as the HTML version, and look for Accept: application/json in the request
@DaveRandom Now sure on what OS viper it runs, but I have centos. So that shouldn't be a problem for you :D
Indeed, but I'm thinking it'd be easier to try and exactly mirror the setup before we start trying to force a square peg into a round hole :-P
But then...
2 days ago, by DaveRandom
I don't want easy, I want 100% self-rolled
@DaveRandom probably debian knowing viper-7
Good all :)
@Jimbo odog mrniogn!
@Jimbo yo
Speeling is herd tudae?
08:38
good mornings
Right, this is really important guys - where can I get my own elephpant?
@Jimbo If you find one (and I only want a small blue one) tell me where you found it
@Jimbo They were selling them here in NL, but I was too late :(
I have looked very hard for a long time
@salathe :-S
GewdMornungs
08:43
yo @dragon112
@Jimbo you want to buy or you just want to own one?
@iroegbu Both
@DaveRandom maybe we have to setup some pre-order service for elephpants. So we can buy them in bulk. Is it expensive to ship in europe to people?
@DaveRandom I'm after a small blue one too! Although will settle for green - my research begins...
they don't mean the same thing... You can own without buying.
08:45
@Jimbo greens are often available
Get a Dwarf Elephant, they rock(ed)
The only ones I've found are the green ZF ones. Ain't nobody got time for that.
@Jimbo Get a contractor in China to make them for you ;-)
@PeeHaa Probably no more that a couple of euros/£s (why doesn't my keyboard have a euro symbol? :-() for something that small and light
We'd need 50 orders to buy a carton
@DaveRandom Let me investigate a bit. I think it would be easy to sell 50
08:51
@PeeHaa I'll ping the guy an email later, see what sort of timescales/cost we'd be looking at. Presumably it wouldn't be more than €500 though, since they're €10 each
@DaveRandom Mine doesn't either >.< and I live in the eurolands
I'm sure my last kbd had one (marked on a key, anyway, don't know if I had the OS set up to produce the right symbol)
Well my mac keyboard has a euro sign on it but it's impossible to type
@DaveRandom I'd be happy to make a UK website :) [to sell them]
as long as we all chip in for the paypal api, screw doing that again :P
Heh, I remember the kbd for the very first computer I had (a Gateway 2000 486 DX4-100-based machine, for all the nerds out there) had the ability to remap the keys on the actual keyboard itself, hours of fun.
@Jimbo Honestly, I'd rather mail cash. It's more secure.
:-P
08:58
@DaveRandom ctrl+alt+e seems to do the trick for me
SO chat doesn't react to it tough
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^^ that's what I get
chrome in general
I have the US international keyboard enabled
€ <-- works in windows, not in chrome :x
google "euro symbol"
pick first result
CTRL+C and then back and CTRL+V
I can just ctrl+alt+e in the address bar and copy past it :)
€€€€€
09:02
@Jack @Mr.Alien Correct we read from right to left but numbers are written from left to right
Wow you just clipboard.txt-ed
@HamZa That doesn't make sense...
ALT+0128
I don't have num-pad :p
@HamZa Cool :) thanks for that info.
Buy a real computer
09:04
Shoo leave me alone :<
@dragon112 ow yes it does
@HamZa Could you review this answer then? :)
@HamZa That would be like this:
bla bla bla words and stuff 000.000.1 <-- that is a million?
@dragon112 we write a million like you do: 1.000.000
09:06
I know but reading from right to left except for numbers?
that's weird imo
@DaveRandom € … alt+e on os x :-)
I have trained myself to think like that actually I just had to do a bunch of work with a little endian format
dBase, which is a f*cking stupid format, for the record
so reading is like this start and right side of the line, start reading toward left find a number jump to left read toward right after number jump to left of number and start reading to left again
It sounds weird to me:p
well look it's even weirder when I was at school, for example you would write:
------------------>
100 + 200 = 300
We wrote
<-----------------
300 = 200 + 100
WHAT
crazy language is crazy O_o
09:08
4 mins ago, by DaveRandom
Buy a real computer
:-P
@DaveRandom HATER SPOTTED, INITIATE KILL SEQUENCE!!~
@DaveRandom stars over apples.
@dragon112 You need to pay some spotty teenager in the Apple store half your life savings before they'll let you do that.
09:09
å∫ç∂´ƒ©˙ˆ∆˚¬µ˜øπœ®ß†¨√∑≈¥Ω a-z in osx
@DaveRandom Just a third of my life savings! HAHA got you there! :p
@HamZa Yoda style!
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@Jack Haha so true, Yoda is arabic :D
PLB
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Morning
09:11
Well it does make sense to write the number from left to right, I can't explain it but it does. It's really weird to write 0001 to express a 1000
Also those who established the school system realised that writing equations from right to left just didn't make sense since later in highschool or university you would write most things in french which means we would write from left to right everything ...
It was weird to switch !
We then were writing like this:
<-----------------------------
This is an arabic sentence to explain the equation
@HamZa Also numbers are not language specific, so it would make sense to write them the same in all languages.. It's just weird to jump all over the sentence when you have a bunch of numbers in it.
@Jack check this out: stackoverflow.com/a/17783695/2153758 … PHP is soooo slow :-P
No we don't write a newline when writing a number.
Let me explain:
<----------------  ----->   <-----------
end of sentence    1000     begin
I flagged this question but it is declined by moderator. :(
09:15
@HamZa I understand that but you are moving your eyes from begin to the 1 and from the last 0 to the end of sentence.
@YogeshSuthar No need for it, I mean you are just putting more work on them while it is so trivial and would sink deep in the unknown ...
@YogeshSuthar What did you flag it as?
@bwoebi Yikes, that's pretty awful.
@Jack I flag it as it is not welcome in our community
@YogeshSuthar Nah, that's not the right kind of flag.
In fact, I wouldn't flag it at all as @HamZa mentioned as well.
@HamZa I require Marshal badge. :D
09:19
@dragon112 No, really. Your eyes can "read" more than that at the same time. You just should view it as a protocol. You're "trained" to read from left to right, we learned to read it that way. I mean if you learn a child to read from bottom to top he would know how even if it's weird
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Oh, badges... sigh
@YogeshSuthar Seeing how you have 10k+ you can open the mod tools and look for flags there.
@YogeshSuthar Well in thise case it really didn't make sense ...
I would recommend this one @YogeshSuthar.
@HamZa The Japanese read from bottom right to top left :)
I know that's true but the numbers thing being in the other direction is weird to me
09:20
@Jack So should I flag from there?
@HamZa But it's weird to have to read words one way and read figures the other way
You are changing your reading direction like 4 times in a sentence with with 2 numbers in it
@iroegbu That's exactly my point
@dragon112 lol ok, it would be a disaster if we wrote 102 and we meant 201 :P
@dragon112 You're treating this as a computer algorithm? Human eyes don't work that way ;-)
Note that "figures" we do write the question mark mirrored !
؟
09:22
@HamZa nah, you won't write it that way... You should use arabic figures
@Jack Exactly !
hi
i have made joomla module
FYI they aren't arabic, they are hindo or indian, can't remember ...
The number "you" use currently are in fact arabic :)
@HamZa Yay for [0-9] =D
@Jack \d :D
09:23
Indeed
Anyone is hearing me!
@Jack EVERYTHING is an algorithm! :p
@user985261 Questions usually contain a question mark (?)
@user985261 nope, I'm reading though :p
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@user985261 Well done!
@dragon112 or ⸮
09:24
@HamZa an empty square? wut
@dragon112 unicode unicode lo;
lol
I'm lazy get off my case :p
i have made custom module in joomla now backend is visible for me but i am not able to view frontend how can i view my frontend for that custom module?
it is based on Joomla 3.1
@dragon112 Good luck finding a girlfriend ;-)
09:26
MVC
@HamZa You people are really weird stackoverflow.com/questions/17783937/…
@Jack I already have one, MUHAHAHA
@user985261 You made a module and you don't know how to activate it in the frontend ?
Does she like algorithms too? :)
09:27
She is a nurse. I guess that answers the question:D
@dragon112 That was going to be my next question haha, is she a nurse? lol
@HamZa i know how to install custom module but the problem is i am not able to view frontend for that module
There's this bizarre connection between programmers / devs and nurses .. I wonder what it is.
@user985261 not sure what you mean by "frontend"
@HamZa Do u know how to view its frontend i.e www.site.com/index.php/component=com_jk i am going right?
09:29
Well from the developer's perspective: she is a girl.
that one's easy :D
I'm trying to transfer files from source server to destination by executing script on third server using PHP FTP functions. I've FTP details for source & destination. Is it possible? Any 1 there to help? Thx.
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Q: PHP FTP transfer files from one server to another while executing the script on third system

Jenson M JohnWell, I'm trying to transfer files(+ directories) using PHP FTP functions from one server (source) to another (destination) & executing the script from third system. Is it possible? Can anyone help by providing an example?

a module != a component
please be specific
And I've been with her before I even became a "real" developer (15 years old)
I flagged one post here :P
@dragon112 That's also an extremely shallow observation lol
09:30
sorry its module
@Jack I know:D
not component
@dragon112 True love...
Why is that flagged?
having two part
1. site
2. administrator
i want to view site
09:31
@Mr.Alien Did you change your avatar AGAIN?!
@Jack Link was fine, that big views are bad
@dragon112 Really cool, keep it up and don't break :)
@dragon112 Oh yea ;)
@Jack why did you delete your answer? In my answer I had a reference to yours…
@bwoebi Oh ... I didn't feel like it answered the question actually.
09:31
Can somebody reproduce this for me: click close -> offtopic because -> other (without typing any text) -> click sscce reason -> the submit button is still disabled
@HamZa Yea see we got another true lover here... I loved truly and I guess it's going to break now
@HamZa We are going to buy a house soon (like in 3-6 months)
@Jack then remove at least the reference in my answer :-)
@dragon112 Really happy for ya :)
@PeeHaa yes
09:33
@Mr.Alien kk tnx. going to the meta mobile.
@HamZa please ans. me if u know?
What browser are you on @Mr.Alien
@PeeHaa ff
k tnx
@PeeHaa ya welcome ;)
09:33
@bwoebi It's your answer; I'm sure you can edit your own answer :)
Now its better ^^^
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Q: Remove disabled state after custom offtopic cv reason

PeeHaaSteps to reproduce: click close on a question click offtopic because... click other (without typing any text) click sscce reason Issue: The submit button is still disabled Expected: The submit is enabled again. Tested in FF and Chrome

It doesn;t make sense, at least I'm familiar with J1.5 and J2.5
When you install a module. You define a module position in the template like this
<jdoc:include type="modules" name="name of the module position"/>
You edit a certain XML file and add that position name
In the backend, you can specify the place of your module, of course you will choose the one position you just created
@Mr.Alien What's that?
09:37
@PeeHaa Voted
@Jack See, it's a gift for your kindness
@user985261 You can also specify on which pages it should show up
Actually i have no of management in that i.e
1.dashboard
2.countries
3.etc...
so that its an another admin inside a site
joomla 2.5 is not based on MVC right?
@user985261 that really doesn't matter. Also what you perceive as MVC may not be MVC at all
@user985261 it uses names from MVC pattern , but that's about it
Evening. Following question: is it guaranteed that the HTTP-Status will always be the element at index 0 when using $http_response_header ??
And also, is there maybe a simpler way to get the status from the last send http-request? I'm actually only interested in the number, not the whole string with protocol-version and explanation
@LukasKnuth yes
@LukasKnuth Use cURL
Or something better
@DaveRandom like? Also, all the questions I find on SO discourage using cUrl
09:46
Ok guys, we've got a new room to rest here
@LukasKnuth If you're stuck with built-ins rather than external libs, cURL is the best option. But they're all crap in terms of API, I don't know if Artax is stable yet? /cc @rdlowrey
What reason(s) do people give for telling others to avoid cURL?
thanks
everything is here accept how to run site view?
09:49
@user985261 that did not come out in English. What were you trying to say ?
(sorry for multiping)
@DaveRandom Most importantly the API being total shit
Please read the docs I just sent
Maybe you're confused between a module and a component ?
Well yes, but like I say if you are stuck with the built-ins it's the best option
I'll have to use the buildins.
09:50
@tereško In this case J_WAT
@DaveRandom No. If you're stuck with the built-ins, use the built-ins, not curl
J for Joomla ^^
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Q: php if class_exists in body, add stylesheet to head

user991830In my 'head', I want to check if a css class exists in the body & add a stylesheet to the head. I have done the following and not working: <?php if (class_exists('.company-color')) { echo ("<link rel='stylesheet' href='/templates/name/css/company-color.css' type='text/css'>"); } ?> Any ide...

built-ins as in the stream context stuff
still pretty ugly, but way better than using curl
count slowly to ten before you comment
09:51
ok
thanks for your suggestion
@NikiC I disagree, but fair enough
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Q: input numbers in textfield with RTL direction shows wrong output

rhandomI'm trying to support RTL direction (for Arabic language) in my web-app. There's a weird thing happening with my textfields. When I input AAAA BBBB CCCC DDDD, i'm getting the correct display in the text field but when I try to input numbers, I'm getting a weird output. let's say my html code only...

@Jack I think that user should have provided what he expected ?
@HamZa Yes, he should have.
@Gordon That guy is clearly a genius. I fear for my job security with people like that around.
But by tinkering with it on jsbin we could figure out what the "strange" thing was.
09:54
anyways, maybe if you edited your answer showing that
In english 123 456 789
is written in arabic like
789 456 123
You explained pretty good that the bundled numbers are written from LTR
posted on July 22, 2013 by Lorna Mitchell

I used this trick to solve a particularly sticky problem last week, so I thought I'd share. I had a 3rd party SOAP service (except it was actually a .NET WCF service, which is almost SOAP but not quite) which didn't behave in accordance with the way its documentation said it would. PHP's SoapClient has the ability to enable tracing and give information about the request/response headers/body,

@DaveRandom I had to seriously restrain myself to not to write RTFM all over the place.

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