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Q: I should be allowed to answer closed questions

BorodinToo many times I have read a question and gone away to write and test a solution, only to come back to find that the question has been suspended, usually because it is unclear what you're asking or too broad The problem is often that the post has been made by a non-native English speaker, so I w...

 
So you're effectively asking for the entire system of question closure to be abolished, given that the purpose of closing questions is to prevent answers. Considering that SO's closure system is one of its main competitive advantages over other similar sites, that's...unlikely to happen.
Why is a user that's posted thousands of posts on SO not familiar with the term "closure" for a closed question, and instead using "suspended" to refer to a closed question? Questions aren't suspended, they're closed.
Why are you rolling back changes to your quesiton that fix your terminology mistakes and mistags, as well?
 
@Servy: You are denying that a question may be "suspended" without deletion. I would much rather see a moderator's view on this. SO gets weirder by the minute
 
"Given Stack Overflow's renowned failure to properly resurrect old posts" - ulgh, pass. Start a blog if you want to rant, you aren't owed hosting here.
 
@Borodin Questions are never "suspended". SO has no concept of suspension for questions. A question may be closed without being deleted, yes. Given that you're specifically saying you're talking about unclear or too broad questions, and those are closure criteria, it seems pretty clear you're talking about quesiton closure. If by "suspension" you mean "deletion", then no, there's no way for a quesiton to be deleted without it being deleted. But deleting a question is also a way of explicitly preventing answers to it. Are you proposing that one be able to post answers to deleted questions?
 
are you referring to the temporary "on hold" text that is used in place of "closed" when a question is closed?
 
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@Servy: Are you saying that there's no significance in the title of a question being appended with [on hold]? And in fact it has been deleted?
 
@Borodin No, that's not what I'm saying. Such a question is closed. It's not "suspended".
 
@Servy: So it will remain forever there, marked [on hold], with the only penalty being that it may not receive answers?
 
@Borodin Unless it's reopened or deleted, yes, it will remain on the site, closed. The banner will change text to "closed" after 5 days, but it's a largely aesthetic change.
 
@Servy: So what others would call suspended and closed, in SO these things are closed and deleted. I am sure there's a reason why closed questions are marked [on hold]. Can you enlighten me?
 
I cant' find the meta post that introduced that wording, but basically it was intended to infer that the question could possibly be fixed and reopened.
 
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@Borodin [on hold] means "closed within the last 5 days" after 5 days it changes to [closed]. Negatively voted closed questions with no positively voted answers will also automatically get deleted after a while (roomba'd)
 
There is a weird fanboy attitude to SO, so that anyone who understands the system gets their comments upvoted. I want no part of that
 
@Borodin Others don't call closed questions "suspended" questions. Everyone but you calls them closed questions (occasionally an on hold quesiton, for some people, in some contexts), because that's what the system calls them, because that's what they are. They're marked "on hold" in some places because some people felt it seemed less "final" than "closed", and the hope was it would make question authors more likely to try to edit their questions when they were closed.
 
@Servy: Ah "the system", which controls us and which we must obey. No, you say it yourself in fewer words: "deleted" questions are on hold, and "closed" questions are deleted. Enough "people felt" that way for SO to portray the states differently, and I am getting flack because I don't see beyond the interface. You know that's, just, wrong.
 
@KevinB "I cant' find the meta post that introduced that wording..." - here it is (it's a blog post)
 
This entire discussion, if you dispense with the semantics theathre, boils down to that you believe that your judgement on question quality should supercede a community consensus. Can you provide any other justification then "But I really want to?" as a argument for that?
 
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@Borodin - Also, keep in that mind that voting in general on meta is different for feature-requests. Since you tagged this as a feature-request, downvotes indicate more that users disagree with the feature than actually reflecting on the quality of the post you created. Had this only been a discussion it would probably not have garnered such a negative score.
 
@Borodin Where did I say (or imply) that deleted questions are on hold and closed questions are deleted? And for the record you're getting flack largely because of Magisch's point above, and my first comment; you're essentially asking to abolish question closure, and it's a feature the community finds extremely valuable, your incorrect terminology is merely a side issue that has caused a bit of confusion at first.
 

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