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12:17 AM
@Queen how's the ol' Enterprise?
 
How much do you think sharp 39 s the ol sharp 39 Enterprise is?
I do not understand.
 
uh oh
and just when @Petter left:P
"sharp 39" must be an apostrophe
@Tunaki FYI I had to rollback some ranting on the post from earlier, my hunch proved correct
 
 
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1:46 AM
@Queen 10 [android] =4cv
 
Yvette in android scanned 1082 questions between Jul 31 18:28 and Sep 02 03:40 filtered and ordered: 4 in batch 1641
 
user3956566
@Queen done
 
Yvette Thank you for your effort, you reviewed 4 questions, I counted 4 (100%) close votes and 4 questions closed
 
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@TimCastelijns @ColdFire I'm thinking the best way we can make out close votes count in android is if we do a tag team effort with batches. I just cleared out the posts with 4 cvs. Maybe we can do batches at cvs 3 and ping each other when they're done, so we'll have a batch of cv 4. What do you think? I am happy to use half my cvs in here each day
 
5:16 AM
@Queen 10 [android] =4cv
 
Cold Fire in android scanned 1082 questions between Jul 31 18:28 and Sep 02 07:08 filtered and ordered: 1 in batch 1642
 
@Queen done
 
Cold Fire Thank you for your effort, you reviewed 1 questions, I counted 1 (100%) close votes and 1 questions closed
 
 
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6:41 AM
@Tunaki you here?
 
6:53 AM
@Yvette I'm not sure if I can help (as I don't do android), but I normally do cv4 batches in c/c++ whenever free. Ping me if you're gonna ever do something in c++ or c; I would like to help
 
Ashish Ahuja ツ in c scanned 1026 questions between May 31 21:48 and Sep 02 08:42 filtered and ordered: 9 in batch 1643
 
@que 20 [c] cv>2
@Queen ignore
 
@AshishAhujaツ The batch has been deleted, questions will be displayed in next batch request.
 
@que 20 [c] cv>2
 
Ashish Ahuja ツ in c scanned 1026 questions between May 31 21:48 and Sep 02 08:42 filtered and ordered: 20 in batch 1645
 
6:58 AM
@ColdFire hey
 
i have a question
 
@Queen done
 
Ashish Ahuja ツ Thank you for your effort, you reviewed 20 questions, I counted 17 (85%) close votes and 9 questions closed
 
you used MVP @Tunaki?
 
sure
 
7:02 AM
you use interactor with it?
my question is interactor is within the presenter or in the view
@Tunaki your thought on this?
 
hmm I don't know interactor
that must be an Android term
what does it do?
 
Interactor is what interacts with the webservice
it is part of MVP pattern
android specific no idea @@
 
3
Q: Android MVP: What is an Interactor?

bkachWhat is an Interactor? How does it fit within the MVP Design? What are the advantages/disadvantages of using an interactor vs putting the interactor code in the presenter?

ok I see
 
actually my question if the interactor is in presenter
then if we want to use the same webservice call
we will need different presenter
for performing same call
 
I would guess the presenter is given an interactor
as a constructor or something
i.e. the presenter depends on the interactor
 
7:15 AM
presenter can contain interactor
but my point was not keep it outside
and in the view that way
we can interact with it without needing a presenter for call
 
not sure about the difference between "presenter" and "view" in Android
 
view is what i am referring to UI
 
so what is presenter?
Oh I see
 
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@AshishAhujaツ oh thanks Ash, I just asked the guys I know who do android
 
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But I will do so if I see C or C++
 
7:26 AM
You can't rely on me for coordinating efforts
I just do a batch when I feel like :p
 
presenter listens to events from view and fetches data from interactor / model
then presenter gives data back to view
the view has no idea what an interactor is
 
7:39 AM
yeah i was just thinking something else
 
 
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8:45 AM
@que start feed
 
@PetterFriberg Comments heat feed is already running
 
Thanks honey
 
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9:03 AM
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9:15 AM
@PetterFriberg Now why does it surprise you so much that I can have nice ideas? =p
Plop!
 
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Hiya
 
@Queen fp
Hiya BR
 
9:21 AM
oo/
 
\ooo
 
oooo/
 
\ooooo
 
oooooo/
 
9:52 AM
I wrote a genius piece of generic code for an app of a client of ours, and now we need the same super common functionality in our own app, but I'm not allowed to reuse it because the client owns it ;___; I have to "forget" I wrote that code and start over..
 
10:07 AM
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@Queen tp
 
@TimCastelijns copy/past, refactor names : )
 
10:23 AM
meh
It's perfect as it is
refactor will make it worse
 
I mean rename the methods... like a prefix "Mine" to all clazzzes..
 
and move the methods around some : )
 
@TimCastelijns lol
yeah who cares client own it
just refactor
 
it's not really funny
 
10:28 AM
nobody is not gonna figure it out
well you wrote it in a funny way
 
refactor it
 
11:07 AM
@Tunaki @PetterFriberg here?
 
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@Queen fp
 
what is the difference between hashmap tostring()
and jsonobject.tostring()
are both same?
or can give different output
 
they can give different output
 
11:08 AM
why do you ask this question?, seems like a strange issue to consider.
 
HashMap.toString() -> [key1=value1,key2=value2] always
 
i had a case where previously i was using jsonobject.tostring
now instead of jsonObject i am using hasmap
so was asking
 
Why are you not using a custom object to begin with?
 
Override the toString and get your own formatting
 
to do that ^
 
11:10 AM
no no
 
and I hope you only use it for logs and other outputs...
 
i cant use custom
i am passing params to a library
which i have no control
it needs string at last
which is a proper formatted json
 
meeh seems like x-y problem, make sure some how it is... extend, override whatever
 
so use JsonObject.toString
 
meeh i was trying to avoid new JsonObjec(hashmap).tostring()
guess i have no choice
 
11:13 AM
why use a HashMap?
a hashmap is key -> value
it doesn't have nesting
 
becoz it is key and value
 
a JsonObject can contain a JsonArray which can contain a JsonObject which can contain a JsonArray which can...
 
one library expects hashmap and one need JSonobject
@Tunaki yes i am aware of that
 
sounds like the libraries are broken
model your own classes as you want them to
 
no no they are quite popular onces
 
11:15 AM
not as what the dependant libraries want
you can convert them as necessary when you need such library
think of it, tomorrow you'll change library
 
well that is why i changed it to use Hashmap()
 
if everything in your code depends on what the library expects
 
becoz hashmap is easily convertable to json
 
then you'll have to rewrite the code entirely
 
and reverse is not easy
 
11:16 AM
if what you want to model is key -> value, then use Hashmap
and convert to JsonObject is a library expects it
 
reverse is not even possible
 
possible
 
bottom line
forget about the libraries
model what you need
 
55
Q: Convert a JSON String to a HashMap

Vikas GuptaI'm using Java, and I have a String which is JSON: { "name" : "abc" , "email id " : ["abc@gmail.com","def@gmail.com","ghi@gmail.com"] } And I have a Map in Java: Map<String, Object> retMap = new HashMap<String, Object>(); I want to store all the data from the JSONObject in that HashMap. Ca...

@Tunaki
 
and adapt for the code you call in libraries in dedicated methods
 
11:17 AM
ok thanks
that is what i end up doing
with hashmap
 
yep, great
 
meeeh Json to Map... why?... what is the use.. I would just use the json object
 
@PetterFriberg one library expect it to be hashmap
reverse conversion from json to hashmap is difficult
and not reliable
 
no map to json
 
Use custom class, make a method toMap, and another toJsonObject
 
11:20 AM
yuo would need reflection.. meeh...
 
Tim hit the homerun
 
@Tunaki yes that is what i did
@TimCastelijns meeh i cant
even if use custom class the problem wont be solved
i will be back to square one
 
It's better to go back to square one now than to go back to it in 2 years and have 100x more work to do the same refactor
 
Yup
 
If you have time that is
 
11:23 AM
well using hashmap i already made sure that i dont have to do anything
 
It's called technical debt
We gave you some options, you can decide what is best :-)
 
yeah thanks Tim
 
I sometimes know that I should be updating some code I wrote, but I'm not allowed to spend time on it
 
11:37 AM
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11:57 AM
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12:07 PM
@Queen fp
 
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12:30 PM
aaaaah what is this
a funny post :D
 
Trash it before @rene sees this!
 
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lol
 
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@JanDvorak no worry about rene here, chaos ruelzzz.
 
12:45 PM
lol
 
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sd k
2
 
close..
@Queen tp
 
haha
bot confusion
 
12:51 PM
Please hand over your RO badge sir
 
hides in a corner hoping Tim can't see me
 
lol
 
Sir, please
this room is circular
 
Petter remove
 
1:13 PM
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@Queen fp
 
unclear question...
 
bye bye
@PetterFriberg
@TimCastelijns
 
o/
 
bye tuna
 
1:27 PM
bye
Sigh, Getting a Error on Mockito.
 
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@Queen tp
 
@ColdFire cya
 
Raising moderator flag
 
perfect thanks...
 
1:30 PM
> The comment thread on this answer has delved into name-calling.
 
@PetterFriberg These are current users
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@PetterFriberg Could not find comment in api call, maybe deleted
 
HERE TIM MY RO BADGE
 
@Tim Do you know how to refresh @petter's screen?
 
1:33 PM
thanks
 
oh great, now I can have 2 RO badge \o/
I will collect them all.
 
I don't understand
 
I was able to trick Tim into forcing Petter to release his, time to move to Tim now
 
Sigh, The joke is gone.
 
Tim is close, just needs a little push, write another meta...
 
1:35 PM
@TimCastelijns When you remove someone as room owner, their screen refreshes.
 
right
 
Mod-flag marked helpful, comments cleaned
 
fingers crossed
@Queen test @Sembei keep in mind that SO is not only here to help the specific asker, it is meant as a knowledge base of programming. One might think that it's more helpful in the long run and for the general public to stop propagating harmful programming practices. Often the proper answer to "How do I do stupid thing Y to solve X?" is "Do non-stupid thing Z instead."
 
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whaaaat?:D
I'm good
 
1:39 PM
@que test stupid
 
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hmmm
 
@queen test Andras Deak
 
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@que test you're stupid
 
1:39 PM
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Sadface, thought you'd freak OpenNLP out
 
@que test you're freaking stupid
 
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only 0.85 on both..., there is a regex on stupid but it is not hitting...
 
1:41 PM
what is it?
 
(?i)(you?|(^|\s)he)(\w+\s*){0,3}\sstupid
 
yeah
it only matches
@que test you are stupid
 
@Tunaki [ Heat Detector ] SCORE: 5 ★★☆☆☆ (Regex:true NaiveBayes:0.85 OpenNLP:0.81)
 
but also
@queen test you are freaking stupid
 
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1:43 PM
the "you're" is what's not tripping it
 
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(?i)(you?|s?he).{0,4}\sstupid
that's simpler
@Queen tp
 
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@Queen fp
 
@Queen why
 
1:55 PM
@JanDvorak Because that is what unknown told me to say.
 
@Tunaki thanks updated
 
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@JanDvorak High opennlp 0.98 and a low scoring regex child
@Queen tp - but wondering about that post... the one who has but comment may be right
 
2:13 PM
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@Queen fp - resource request?? "I can't find an already made function." @BhargavRao
 
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@Queen fp
 
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@Queen tp
also, what?
 
2:22 PM
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@AndrasDeak some usual socket puppies...
 
2:42 PM
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@Queen fp
 
3:00 PM
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@Queen fp
 
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@Queen fp
@Queen tp
 
@PetterFriberg socket puppet?;)
@Tuna yesterday's ranty guy I rolled back called me an "SO overprivileged troll", I'm honoured:D
 
aah there you are, I was blaming you in SOCVR.... but could not ping you to death..
 
3:13 PM
:(
yeah, I'm not there anymore
 
perfect, great then I can continue : )
@AndrasDeak I wounder what he thinks of the mod that suspended him : )
 
@PetterFriberg he didn't
 
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3:38 PM
@AndrasDeak he did but only for 12or 24 hours..
 
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ah
@PetterFriberg Chris would seem like the kind, I was surprised he didn't:)
 
3:57 PM
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4:13 PM
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@Queen tp
 
4:25 PM
hey
 
Hiya Cold
 
whatsup petter
seems you guys were enjoying without me again :(
 
meeh not much fun today...
 
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oki
 
4:43 PM
@PetterFriberg Yeah
Sry, Had a long meeting. Got my work approved and got some good feedback from managers. :)
Time for me to get going, Bye all.
 
bye BR
 
Hiya o/
 
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@Queen tp
 
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5:43 PM
textspeak = smite'em
 
@Queen tp
@Queen tp
 
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@Queen fp
 
6:00 PM
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@Burn stop
 
Bye.
 
Hiya o/
 
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