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00:01
You also like money? Yeah, tbh I do too. I just don't manipulate a corporate structure to make it hard for the government to implement price controls to get money...
00:17
I would do everything I can to hold on to cash for the company, if I owned one. I would obey the laws as I do now and operate ethically.
00:45
The apartment I moved into this year I'm pretty sure was designed to withstand desert heat pretty well. Most days, I can manage with two ceiling fans. It does have central air, but trying to limit usage.
It has a bloody smart thermostat anyway, that turns it to eco-friendly temperatures, which isn't any cooler than ceiling fans... so ceiling fans and tons of shade, it is
Not complaining about it having eco-friendly setting, I'm biased against smart home devices, and having the thermostat becomes almost pointless if central air isn't cooling any better... but that's also a good thing cause less energy usage
 
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07:52
$foo = { // syntax error at "{"
    bar: 'text'
};

class Foo {
    public function __construct(
        public readonly string $bar,
    ) {}
}

$foo = Foo {
    bar: 'baz' // syntax error at ":"
};
These two assignments suggest that in this shape in terms of syntax it'd be possible to create an Object Initializer, isn't it?
First creates a generic object instance like (object)['bar'=>'text'];
The PHP way to do this is:

$foo = new stdClass;
$foo->bar = 'text';
Yes, I know. Exploring possibilities to shape ObjectInitializer again
Which gives ability to instantiate objects that don't need or use ctor in one expression.
I've no idea what that meant
08:56
@Danack I'm not gonna go on the full rant in how the EU basically crippled EDF by forcing to sell at massive discount energy to other providers regardless of current grid wide usage/price of the kWh, as that's better done in a pub.
But the price issue is that, because everyone is connected at the grid, and EU regulation. The price of electricity is set by the last possible mean of producing electricity which can be easily spun up (i.e. gas).
French electricity bills are also spiking hard although 70% of it is nuclear
This is probably best explained by looking at Norway, the part of the grid which is connected to the EU has massive hikes in electricity prices, whereas the parts which are not (yet?) connected have stayed relatively cheaply
 
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11:20
Morning all
12:07
hmm, I think the Queen just died/is about to
@Derick Oh? Link?
@Derick are you in the UK?
12:23
> Prince Charles and Camilla have arrived at Balmoral and Prince William is travelling there
That doesn't sound good.
Family members rushing to be there is not exactly a good sign.
When I saw the picture with PM Truss yesterday I was concerned with the black mark on her hand.
Thats a circulation problem.l
Yeah, I'm in the greatest city in the world.
12:30
@Derick that seems non-sequitur-ish? Also, presumably you mean New York?
Answering "Are you in the UK?"
and no, London.
12:47
@Derick London highly debatable on Greatest city in the world :P
@Derick Do you live in the city? I hear it is quite expensive is the reason I ask. Curious of your cost.
@StatikStasis I do.
> Parliament will in fact will meet after the Accession Council declares allegiance, to declare their own allegiance to the new monarch, and then suspend business for ten days.
suspending business for that long right now is 'not great'.
No, not great at all. It's also not a legal requirement that it does.
This will definitely be an end of an era. She's been Queen for as long as any of us in this room have been alive, I would assume.
13:00
@StatikStasis very true. It will be a very sad time. Charles has massive shoes to fill.
it's been 70+ years...
@JukEboX well, he does have big ears :D
@Derick :P
I thought Charles was too... elder, and possibly William would be in position. Not true?
Nope, Charles is the first in line.
13:02
I'm across the pond- what do I know. I had just read that somewhere before.
I think Charles might abdicate once this all becomes real. He was always looking to get away when he was with and before Diana. I can see it going right to William shortly.
The UK does not do abdications.
If you were doing a count of rows of table1 using a join with criteria with table2 would that be an outer?
The UK didn't do a lot of things until this younger generation. Things change.
In any case, humans have a hard time conceding power when it has been given.
I've never seen this photo of Pluto before. So beautiful. i.imgur.com/6Ao9qO3.png
@StatikStasis #preach
13:07
that looks like a fake
@Derick No idea... it's from this video. Correction to link: youtube.com/watch?v=D5XPuS-Y0fg
That image I took from 15 minutes and 26 seconds
BBC has now suspended all regular programming, and the news crew is all in black tie.
13:23
fyi the protocol for 'London Bridge is down'.
13:33
Also, I saw someone suggest there would be an announcement at 2pm UTC aka half an hour...
You think it's already happened?
Yes.
Judging by Nicholas Withchell's face, probably. Though if someone could get that man an actually black tie instead of a mere dark blue one, that would be appropriate.
You watching a feed from somewhere?
Not watching, but tuning in occassionally: freeintertv.com/view/id-2328/United_Kingdom-News-0-1
13:42
I just have iplayer on: bbc.co.uk/iplayer/live/bbcone
The gray dot in the name is not a check mark.
=/
I hate these accounts
I mean.. the handle is not really convincing
Yeah... just popped up and I did not look carefully.
14:06
@Derick Uh, Edward VIII
@Crell We don't talk about that.
Or Bruno.
@Danack Reading "https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/16/what-happens-when-queen-elizabeth-dies-london-bridge" ... it's going to be non stop worship for weeks, isn't it?
14:21
In other news, I've become an uncle again :-)
Congrats!
Congrats
Yay, Uncle Derick!
7 little un's now
14:55
Someone just fixed Balmoral on OSM :-) → openstreetmap.org/changeset/125943167
 
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16:01
Sweet Pageination complete!
typo?!
16:18
I think it was the calculation of the amount of items to create pages of
I used some older code I know works and that works great. I also grew my knowledge on SQL INNER JOINs.
yes, welcome to 6 hours ago @TimWolla ;-)
@Derick My understanding is that this page is new news, it had a last-modified of half an hour ago when I checked.
And the discussion of 6 hours ago is why I shared.
It does not say anything new though. Maybe a white space change :D
Okay, I didn't see that specific link before :-)
16:59
STAND BY. STAND BY. Announcement at 6pm, apparently.
quelle surprise
@JukEboX Congrats! That's what it's about.
@JukEboX Hmm... something similar to what I said, or different?
@Danack !! emotions intensify
This has been a roller coaster waiting on the news.
17:20
@StatikStasis same! I am glued to Skynews right now. can't find a good radio channel from BBC. Not sure about if it was what you said or the examples I was using were garbage.
17:32
BBC and Guardian just confirmed she's died. RIP.
The Queen has died
//cc @Derick @Danack
We have television in the UK too :-þ
Sad day
@Derick I thought you guys might be furiously coding. =P
17:43
I feel for you all who are in the UK today.
Oh... and my page did not update before I posted that. Weird...
Anyone using Embeddables in Doctrine?
I'm sad she's passed away. I'm not really a monarchist, but she's been remarkable. What I am not looking forwards is the two weeks of nothing else going on besides talks/audio/video about her life, and the wedge issue this will create in the UK.
@Derick Haha... 2 weeks... we talk about Presidents longer than that and they only serve 4 years, 8 at most. I feel it will be longer than that.
@Derick wedge issue?
17:53
Yes, whether people pay enough respect, and are patriotic enough,-- we had a taste of that when her late husband died.
#MonarchyLivesMatter
OK I didn't know about all that. I am State Side
Given how unpopular Charles is, sounds like a good time to consider just getting rid of the monarchy. :-) Might be bad for tourism, though...
We have that now in the US with the flag and the national anthem.
@Crell Too soon... I mean it's more about a beloved tradition at this point I think... and they've done well with it.
Also William is around the corner.
The US was watching their wedding religiously just a few years ago.
@Crell "Given how unpopular Charles is" - allegedly. Though that is mostly due to a 50 year campaign against him and his odd ideas like "maybe we shouldn't poison the planet".
18:01
And his treatment of Diana I thought...
I think we'll end up seeing a slimmed down monarchy, like in Norway and the Netherlands, but I can't even imagine it goes away fully.
That's a tragedy of him not being allowed to marry Camilla when they were dating before he met Diana.....as she was divorced.
New King and PM within a few days... quite mental.
Really is
18:04
@Derick probably. But also a reasonable chance that people would be more open for changes in how this country is run now.....which we kind of need.
Yes, we desperately need that.
But I will leave politics to another day.
18:18
THe reaction around the world will be crazy on social. To many on twitter already calling her a colonizer and stuff like that. Awful
QE2 presided over the dismantling of the empire. If you wanted to hate on a British monarch for colonial empire, she's not the one to talk about. Her father and grandfather sure, but not QE2.
@Crell even her father (George VI) did a lot to dismantle the monarch's power as well (he was sort-of forced to due to his brother's F-up in abdication)
 
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19:45
I was looking at the photos of the Queen and the Presidents over the years... she even spanned the shift from black and white photos being the standard to color being the standard. politico.com/amp/news/magazine/2022/09/08/…
@StatikStasis wild
 
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22:41
My only wish is that Thatcher would have died a second time instead...
We have a cosplay Thatcher as PM now...
Exactly what UK needs, huh? To really scare off Scotland...

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